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AZMike

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Let me just start out by saying this 2014 Super Tenere is my 13th motorcycle. I am very meticulous about my bikes and I maintain and clean them at an unnatural level. I have owned this bike for a few months now and last weekend I changed the oil a little early but now I now when it was done. I went on a nice ride today and when I got home I looked at the oil level in the sight glass and it was a bit high. Hmmm that is odd, so I wanted to drop it a little. I really did not want to pull the skid plate so I manufactured a funnel, stuffed a rag and very carefully drained out a little oil to the perfect level! Wa La! All without making a mess or spilling a drop. Gonna check my work and run it for a few minutes and check her again. Fire her up and she starts leaking oil all over the place! WTF? I left the oil cap off and made quite the mess all over the bike and my garage. If I had known it was that easy to lower the oil level in a few seconds I could have save myself alot of effort. 30 years of riding and that is the first time I have ever done that. An hour later and a little red in the face and she is back to clean and happy. Shit. It was beautiful and 75 degrees here in Arizona today.
 

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Heres a little advice on oil changes on S10s. Drain ,remove filter. Add filter and Add exactly 3.4 liters or whatever the American equivalent the manual says and don't even look at the sight glass for a week. It will be the perfect level. Believe me, I've owned 2 S10s and done maybe 25 oil changes. You'll drive yourself crazy trying to get it just right otherwise. But if you screw up and over fill which you'll probably do ,the easiest way to drain a little is to remove the front drain plug. You will only lose a few ounces.
 

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You might like this, as misery sometimes likes company.


As a new airplane mechanic in the 70s, I replaced an oil filter on a single engine Piper and the filter sat on an adapter plate. When I put it all back together I missed that I'd re-installed the adapter plate 90 degrees off and an alignment pin got in the way of a seal being formed. Got in the plane and started it to check for leaks. Boy, did it EVER leak!


I was making something like $1.45 book rate at the time, and lost most of a day's pay by spending it cleaning the mess. The prop wash had covered the plane in oil to the top of the tail.


::003::
 

bob dirt

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Yep no reason to lower the oil level if you do the oil change just like the manual says. Anyhow, do you ride on dirt? I'm in north Phoenix and always looking for a ride. I've been riding in the Bradshaw's lately trying to wear out my stock batwings. I'm almost there. Any good trails down there for winter riding?
 

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AZMike said:
Let me just start out by saying this 2014 Super Tenere is my 13th motorcycle. I am very meticulous about my bikes and I maintain and clean them at an unnatural level. I have owned this bike for a few months now and last weekend I changed the oil a little early but now I now when it was done. I went on a nice ride today and when I got home I looked at the oil level in the sight glass and it was a bit high. Hmmm that is odd, so I wanted to drop it a little. I really did not want to pull the skid plate so I manufactured a funnel, stuffed a rag and very carefully drained out a little oil to the perfect level! Wa La! All without making a mess or spilling a drop. Gonna check my work and run it for a few minutes and check her again. Fire her up and she starts leaking oil all over the place! WTF? I left the oil cap off and made quite the mess all over the bike and my garage. If I had known it was that easy to lower the oil level in a few seconds I could have save myself alot of effort. 30 years of riding and that is the first time I have ever done that. An hour later and a little red in the face and she is back to clean and happy. Shit. It was beautiful and 75 degrees here in Arizona today.
This should make your day. One of my first posts on the forum:

http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=10166.msg169480#msg169480

Got sucked into trying to dial in the oil level and took my eye off the ball!! I know better now.
 

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RED CAT said:
Heres a little advice on oil changes on S10s. Drain ,remove filter. Add filter and Add exactly 3.4 liters or whatever the American equivalent the manual says and don't even look at the sight glass for a week. It will be the perfect level. Believe me, I've owned 2 S10s and done maybe 25 oil changes. You'll drive yourself crazy trying to get it just right otherwise. But if you screw up and over fill which you'll probably do ,the easiest way to drain a little is to remove the front drain plug. You will only lose a few ounces.

Definitely spot on advice. ::008::
 

AZMike

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That next time will be just that. Velvet, out place in NM is at 33.574251, -108.382793 near Elk Mountain.
 

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the S10 has many redeeming qualities and generally speaking, I'm a fan of site glasses too. However, being a dry sump engine using that site glass to check engine oil level on the S10 is a bit trickier than on most bikes I've owned. You don't want to look at it when it is cold (always reads high) and you don't want to look at it when it is hot (tends to read low). Basically, you check it a minute or two after turning off the engine but not so long after that all the oil drops to the bottom of the case. Really, that makes putting in the right amount of oil a bit more critical as false level reads are easier to get. If you do go high I've found a clear length of tubing dropped into the filler will help, you just siphon out an once or two and go from there (why clear helps, so you don't wind up drinking it). That and the dual drain plugs make oil changes a bit different on this one, not hard, you just need to keep its quirks in mind....
 

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RED CAT said:
Heres a little advice on oil changes on S10s. Drain ,remove filter. Add filter and Add exactly 3.4 liters or whatever the American equivalent the manual says and don't even look at the sight glass for a week. It will be the perfect level. Believe me, I've owned 2 S10s and done maybe 25 oil changes. You'll drive yourself crazy trying to get it just right otherwise. But if you screw up and over fill which you'll probably do ,the easiest way to drain a little is to remove the front drain plug. You will only lose a few ounces.
Why 3.4 QT.? Book says 3.6 and mine tests out perfect with 3.75qt. when checked exactly per the manual.


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WJBertrand said:
Why 3.4 QT.? Book says 3.6 and mine tests out perfect with 3.75qt. when checked exactly per the manual.


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Red Cat wrote 3.4L not QT, he's metric...........................
 

NoMorBills

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It is a dry sump. Oil level in the tank, what you see in the glass,is not so important.
I change mine and refill with 4 qts. Hate having bottles sitting around with a splash of oil in.
50,000 miles so far no problem.
 

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NoMorBills said:
It is a dry sump. Oil level in the tank, what you see in the glass,is not so important.
I change mine and refill with 4 qts. Hate having bottles sitting around with a splash of oil in.
50,000 miles so far no problem.
Wow that's a lot of extra oil !
 

NoMorBills

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Not really! Less than a half of a half quart. Never need to add oil between changes and no it does not blow out into my air box. Handles it just fine.
Stop over thinking. Its a Yamaha!
 

DamMechanic

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NoMorBills said:
Not really! Less than a half of a half quart. Never need to add oil between changes and no it does not blow out into my air box. Handles it just fine.
Stop over thinking. Its a Yamaha!
Hey, right there with ya. If you start your bike on the center stand and watch for about 5 minutes. You will see that there is very little oil in the sight glass as all the oil is circulating in the system. If you put the full 4 quarts in, it is just barely over half way in the glass. With dry sump motors no extra oil is stored around the crank shaft where windage can pick it up and cause foaming.
 
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