600 Mile Service

fred-houston

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I am coming up on my first (600) mile service. The dealer is pushing for it to be brought to them to do it, but they are charging $325.00 for the service.

Looking at what is done for this service, that seems really excessive. I do the service on all of my other bikes, but I was thinking about having this first one done at the dealer because of warranty issues.

I know good records will have to be kept, and normally I purchase my oil and supplies in bulk, meaning that I usually get a six pack of oil and a couple of filters at a time, but with this bike I will purchase them for each change so I can have a receipt.

I have been told that me doing the first service will not cause any warranty issues, so I would like to get some more opinions on the subject. Could there be warranty (if needed) ramification if I do my own first service?

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fred-houston said:
I am coming up on my first (600) mile service. The dealer is pushing for it to be brought to them to do it, but they are charging $325.00 for the service.

Looking at what is done for this service, that seems really excessive. I do the service on all of my other bikes, but I was thinking about having this first one done at the dealer because of warranty issues.

I know good records will have to be kept, and normally I purchase my oil and supplies in bulk, meaning that I usually get a six pack of oil and a couple of filters at a time, but with this bike I will purchase them for each change so I can have a receipt.

I have been told that me doing the first service will not cause any warranty issues, so I would like to get some more opinions on the subject. Could there be warranty (if needed) ramification if I do my own first service?

Thanks
No more ramifications doing your own first service as opposed to any others. I believe you bought yours at Team Mancuso, as did I? I took it to them only cause I worked that in with my sale of the bike. After having them do the service I will try to do the rest on my own. All my receipt from them snowed was basically that they changed the engine and final drive oil. Nothing about checking spokes, cables, lubricating items, etc. fortunately I had them sign off on my 600 mile service in the book.

When I take my Ford F-250 6.7 in for oil changes, I get a huge itemized receipt of like 50 things they check, and they charge 1/3 as much. I expected the same. If I do decide to go back that will be a conversation I have.

Personally, I plan to get a service manual, all the right tools/lubes/oils and do it myself. I'll hit the 4000 mile service in the next few weeks and the bikes only 2 months old. Plus I'm an hour and 15 away from the Yamaha dealer.
 

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That is interesting that they are charging you at all. My dealership took care of the 600 mile service for free. That is a very hefty price for doing exactly what you can do at home in my opinion.
 

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Sounds awfully steep. Mine was $160 (1 hr labor at 89/hr). Unless something breaks hard, it'll be the last visit to the dealer.
 

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I thought it was a bit steep too after I looked at what they are suppose to do for the service. It is nothing more than a visual inspection and changing the engine and rear drive oil. I have always done my own service, so I have ordered the service manual, and will continue to do so.

Thanks for responses
 

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In my area service techs are not paid anywhere near a living wage. As a result, the shops "get what they pay for" which is most often, a less than skilled employee. Frankly, I wouldn't allow some of them to mow my lawn. The best that you can hope for is the presence of one quality "master technician" somewhere in the shop that oversee the rest of the bobbleheads.

So, I'd rather do it myself and know that the work was completed correctly. If you come across something new, take some time and study the service manual, consult the forums and ask for advice. For the Preventative Maintenance stuff, you might need to purchase some specialty tools, 2 torque wrenches, extended metric allen wrenches, home-made manometer etc. This can be done on the cheap at Harbor Freight or buy some quality tools to suit your budget needs. You'll be money ahead and it's a great education.

Oh... and if you are lucky enough to have a quality shop in your area, please don't yell me for my first couple of sentences.

Jim
 

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I think there may be some confusion here. I am by no means a mechanic, or ever claimed to be one, but I have always done the service on my bikes myself and I have no issue in doing the service on this new one. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't setting up myself for them to deny any warranty claims down the road because I did not have a dealer do the first 600 mile service. I have no qualms in turning a wrench.

So far I have

Mounted a X-Tall Parabellum Shield
2" bar risers
Mounted a rear trunk
Fabricated a rear passenger seat cargo plate with drivers backrest
Installed PC8 fuse block
Installed accessory plugs (2) and volt meter
Wired up GPS
Mounted Rumbux bars
And presently waiting on my drivers seat from Baldwin to arrive to I can ride this sucker.

Things that are still being considered is to add some additional lights. Probably will just go with the 6" led under the headlights. Get some saddlebags. I really won't need them until September, so I have plenty of time to decide. I have some mirror extenders on the way.

I think that about covers it for now, I am sure I will find some other farkles to throw on it over time.

I have had a lot of fun setting this bike up for me, I am looking forward to putting a bunch of miles on it.
 

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I just had mine done last week. According to the tech, the Super Ténéré unlike several other bikes doesn't have a full 600 mile checklist. They did everything on the maintenace schedule plus check all frame and engine mounts for correct torque, checked the spokes, bled brakes and clutch, and adjusted throttle and checked throttle body synch. $175 out the door.

If you fill out the Yamaha survey that you got in the mail you can get a $50 service coupon.
 

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fred-houston said:
I think there may be some confusion here. I am by no means a mechanic, or ever claimed to be one, but I have always done the service on my bikes myself and I have no issue in doing the service on this new one. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't setting up myself for them to deny any warranty claims down the road because I did not have a dealer do the first 600 mile service.
Regarding this question, I believe the answer is no, you don't have to worry about your warranty being denied. There are the obvious exceptions, and I'm sure you would agree; "Hey, I forgot to add oil after I drained it, now my engine is seized, I demand a warranty replacement", and so on...

But they can't simply void your warranty based on you doing the work.
 

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rotortech71 said:
Regarding this question, I believe the answer is no, you don't have to worry about your warranty being denied. There are the obvious exceptions, and I'm sure you would agree; "Hey, I forgot to add oil after I drained it, now my engine is seized, I demand a warranty replacement", and so on...

But they can't simply void your warranty based on you doing the work.

Right


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act
 

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fred-houston said:
I think there may be some confusion here. I am by no means a mechanic, or ever claimed to be one, but I have always done the service on my bikes myself and I have no issue in doing the service on this new one. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't setting up myself for them to deny any warranty claims down the road because I did not have a dealer do the first 600 mile service. I have no qualms in turning a wrench.

So far I have

Mounted a X-Tall Parabellum Shield
2" bar risers
Mounted a rear trunk
Fabricated a rear passenger seat cargo plate with drivers backrest
Installed PC8 fuse block
Installed accessory plugs (2) and volt meter
Wired up GPS
Mounted Rumbux bars
And presently waiting on my drivers seat from Baldwin to arrive to I can ride this sucker.

Things that are still being considered is to add some additional lights. Probably will just go with the 6" led under the headlights. Get some saddlebags. I really won't need them until September, so I have plenty of time to decide. I have some mirror extenders on the way.

I think that about covers it for now, I am sure I will find some other farkles to throw on it over time.

I have had a lot of fun setting this bike up for me, I am looking forward to putting a bunch of miles on it.
Just document what you do and keep your receipts for parts & materials. If you keep good records, it's hard for them to deny a claim should it arise.
 

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I had mine done yesterday, was part of the deal but would have cost £105 which I'd have been happy with (free was better)
 

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There are a lot of things that loosen up and need to be checked steering head nut,spokes,rear brake sticks, handlebars loosen up along with the handgaurd hardware ,clutch and brake handles loosing hardware.
I did mine myself and found a lot of stuff the dealership didn't do rite when doing the assembly so If I did it over I would buy from another dealer and have them do the first service.kinda keeps the dealer from blaming the consumer for not doing a thorough job!!
 
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