2nd Amendment being lost in Colorado!

[Buelligan]

Wow Ron, Don't forget the automobiles that kill hundreds, thousands of people every day. We should ban them also!
there are many things out there, that kill far more people than guns. A couple of box cutters killed thousands in just a couple of hours, we should ban them also.

 

[tomatocity]

Don't let these laws prevent you from some of the most beautiful and exciting riding you will ever do. I have plans to spend time in Colorado before and after the Big Colorado 2013 event. Don't let them win.

The best thing you can do for the Gun Laws is contribute to / join NRA, and groups like California Rifle & Pistol Assn, California Legal Project, but toward all states.

 

[Siseneg]

I thought about canceling too. It's a hell of a long way to Colorado, and I just didn't know if I wanted to patronize a place where I can't get behind what they are doing to (what I consider) morals, rights and freedoms. I'm a former 24 year long resident and I am saddened to see where the state is headed politically.

However, I will still make every effort to attend. There's nobody in Denver who cares if I boycott them as a punitive measure, and I will take from the gathering every bit of enjoyment, fellowship and beauty I can get. While I don't agree with their legislative paths, I won't let the politicians control my summer plans. I'll come to visit to support the local businesses, support the folks that have worked so hard to orchestrate this gathering, to support all the others that are coming together in a like mind (Tenere-itis) and to have fun. It's not the mountains' fault that the legislatures are in a mess.

 

[Combo]

I thought about canceling too. It's a hell of a long way to Colorado, and I just didn't know if I wanted to patronize a place where I can't get behind what they are doing to (what I consider) morals, rights and freedoms. I'm a former 24 year long resident and I am saddened to see where the state is headed politically.

However, I will still make every effort to attend. There's nobody in Denver who cares if I boycott them as a punitive measure, and I will take from the gathering every bit of enjoyment, fellowship and beauty I can get. While I don't agree with their legislative paths, I won't let the politicians control my summer plans. I'll come to visit to support the local businesses, support the folks that have worked so hard to orchestrate this gathering, to support all the others that are coming together in a like mind (Tenere-itis) and to have fun. It's not the mountains' fault that the legislatures are in a mess.

Well said and I agree.

I feel better already. ::001::

 

[hANNAbONE]

...heading to Kentucky today to purchase handgun & ammo...

Really diggin' this thread. It is ponderous to think that a few on here want to do away with 2nd Amendment RIGHTS.

It is humorous to me to watch the knee jerk reactions.

RIGHTS are RIGHTS, folks. Do not tamper with the Bill or RIGHTS - it's there and in place for a reason.

If the nation caves on this subject - watch the frick out for what's on the horizon.

YMMV

 

[hANNAbONE]

 

[Twisties]

....Colorado citizens as a whole HATE these new bills. They dont agree with them. ...

I won't argue with Boostedxt. There is no point. But because we have an international audience I will simply point out that scientific polling conducted by Keating shows overwhelming support of Coloradans for these measures. The Colorado Police Chiefs supported the measures, while the Colorado Sheriffs did not.

http://localtvkdvr.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/pna-colorado-gun-laws-polling-memo-jan-20121.pdf

 

[tomatocity]

I have seen that and its interesting for sure. My issue with that poll is in a state of 5.2 million people they polled 905. That is such a small % of the population that I have concerns. I say leave it up to a vote by the people. If that many really want gun laws then we will know that when the voting ends. In 2014 these bills might be voted on as there is a filling to have that happen right now.

The other fair thing about the poll is not asking the people being polled where they lived before Colorado. Most likely California.

 

[MikeBear]

Ok. And what are you going to do to defend your second amendment ?

 

[GSteve]

The Colorado Police Chiefs supported the measures, while the Colorado Sheriffs did not.

http://localtvkdvr.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/pna-colorado-gun-laws-polling-memo-jan-20121.pdf

Chiefs of police are political appointments while sheriffs are elected officials and usually reflect the views of their constituents.

 

[olie]

it makes me laugh all this garbage about the 2nd Amendment from most wimpy people that didn't do military service. )

about not going to Colorado... be sure to stay away from Canada and every civilized country of Europe.

BTW, are you that wimpy to need a assault weapon to ride your bike? if so, you shouldn't ride a bike.... get an armored cage!!

 

[oregon-rider]

Currently these steps have been taken...
Call/email every senator
Petition tohave them on the ballotin 2014
Support the Sheriffs......who are elected by the way not appointed.
Start the recall process of certain people

Along the way Coloradoans have been very proative. During the testify part of the senate there were over 1000 people signed up against each bill? Ya know what the head Dem in office did? They changed the rulls and made it extremely difficult.

They tried the same crap in Oregon ! Portland and Salem have most of the fools living there and decide what's best for me living in rural Oregon. I don't go to the woods without my gun because the wolves they introduced against the peoples will in our back yards not theirs will eat my dog or me if they have the chance. My grandchildren will never be able to roam around the woods like me and my sons did because of the wolves ! We don't have car jacking or home invasions because people know what't waiting on the other side of the door. ::009::

 

[tomatocity]

Ok. And what are you going to do to defend your second amendment ?

Member of NRA and California Rifle and Pistol Assn.
Donate to California Legal Project.
Contact your representatives.
Discuss (don't tell) with others what Rights are.
A sticker on your vehicle can cause awareness.
And #1 is VOTE!

 

[oregon-rider]

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Member of NRA and California Rifle and Pistol Assn.
Donate to California Legal Project.
Contact your representatives.
Discuss (don't tell) with others what Rights are.
A sticker on your vehicle can cause awareness.
And #1 is VOTE!

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[Combo]

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People....listen. THIS IS BEYOND JUST 2A AND FIREARMS. THIS IS ABOUT OUR RIGHTS TO LIVE FREE. If you are open to losing 1 right you are open to losing all of them. I dont want to lose my ability to worship God, trial by jury, or my right free speach anymore than I want to lose my gun rights. Stop looking at this as if its so simple. Its not.

You get it. ::008::
The problem now days is that many do not get it and try to force what they believe onto others without knowing what they are doing to create the end of freedom in this great country so many have died for to keep it free.

 

[spklbuk]

Grateful Dead - I've Been All Around This World 1980

 

[houndman]

Yea you are right, who "needs" an "assault" rifle? The last thing I need is someone else , like a govrnment entity bent on more and more power, and the dupes who fall for their crap, telling me what I do not "need". Yea I need the corrupt center of those in power and access telling me what I need. Like Bloomberg in NY. Why is he so bent on this subject of disarming people? Or telling you how big your soda cup can be? This is obviously more than puritanical reasons. A man in elected office with an agenda like that? You anti 2nd amendment peeps think they are doing good? Human nature is at its core here. Power has no end of thirst for those drunk on it. People think that another Hitler is not possible here? There is nothing new under the sun here. Just the dupes who think we are "post modern". I will stay armed.

 

[Siseneg]

I was just going to plagarize this, but here's the link to the source. I found it interesting and useful data. Of, course, I find it that way because I agree with it.

http://www.gunlaws.com/faq.htm#howmany

To be honest, I am most concerned about how outside interests continually use tragedy to promote agenda and how this seems to me as a 'house divided' scenario. We have suffered terrible tragedies as a nation and have united and sacrificed as a nation to heal and make things right that were wrong. Not so much these days... In what should be galvanizing events the first turns are toward polarization and finger pointing. It drives us to local civil wars (friend against friend and brother against brother). I wish we could have rational discussions and reality based solutions but it all seems to gravitate toward non-compromising absolutism.

 

[FacePalm]

I'm gonna bring my perspective as a LEO to the table.

Being a lifelong California resident, I've had a front-row seat as to the ineptitude of government at all levels. Fact: Sacramento is a shining example of Idiocy in action.

These are the folks in charge of creating all our laws. If they are so inept at running this state, why should they be trusted with protecting me & my loved ones?

Well, it turns out they dont have any obligation to protect you/me/anybody. Read Warren vs. DC --- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

With this in mind, check out this recent article from the LA Times: http://articles.latimes.com/2013/feb/23/local/la-me-sex-offenders-20130224

In a nutshell, this article relates that because of state budgetary ineptitude, violent sexual predators are being released into YOUR town with GPS monitors to track them. The scumbags cut the GPS bracelets off, then go back to doing what they love (your wife/son/daughter).

So, having established that the Lawmakers are inept, and instead of protecting us are actually ENDANGERING us, lets take a look at the 2nd Amendment...

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

We need only to know the purpose of it to understand WHY we must resist Government efforts to minimize it. The 2nd Amendment is one of, if not the, STRONGEST Checks on Government Power. WE THE PEOPLE hold the Trump Card when Government stops being of/by & for the people.

More on this in a sec, I gotta change my son's poopy diaper...

 

[Twisties]

I was just going to plagarize this, but here's the link to the source. I found it interesting and useful data. Of, course, I find it that way because I agree with it.

http://www.gunlaws.com/faq.htm#howmany

To be honest, I am most concerned about how outside interests continually use tragedy to promote agenda and how this seems to me as a 'house divided' scenario. We have suffered terrible tragedies as a nation and have united and sacrificed as a nation to heal and make things right that were wrong. Not so much these days... In what should be galvanizing events the first turns are toward polarization and finger pointing. It drives us to local civil wars (friend against friend and brother against brother). I wish we could have rational discussions and reality based solutions but it all seems to gravitate toward non-compromising absolutism.

I don't know, I thought the vast majority of Americans, somewhere in the 70-80-90% range, favor reasonable controls and the continued right to keep and bear arms. We have a very few that want all out bans, and a very few NRA types that would characterize any attempt at control with great hyperbole, as we keep seeing here.