2014 ES

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Some preliminary thoughts on the 2014 ES from a garage perspective as the weather’s just not cooperating for anything more quite yet.

Picked the bike up today and as with my 2012 had the dealer install the following OEM options:

Panniers
Crash bars
Skid plate (I don't want to hear it... Not going trials riding in Africa)

To start, the ergos are a bit different, as the seat, while thinner, seems to have similar comfort to the original. For me the thinner profile works well as I was just this side of being totally flat-footed, but am so now. Foam density seems similar enough. The balance of seat changes are only cosmetic with it's new two-tone appearance. The bike “fits” as before.

The handlebars are now set up and back from the original stance which suits me as I had used adjustable ROX risers before. Not that the '12 was a poor fit... Just that it needed to be tweaked minimally to eliminate a small cramp between the shoulder blades. With no time on the bike I can't say the new setup is a panacea for fitment, but it feels “in range” for me. As learned many times, sometimes just an 1/8” (give or take) can make a really profound improvement in comfort. This new configuration hopefully saved me from having to buy longer brake and clutch lines again.

Kickstand. They dumped a few ounces I guess. I preferred steel and may get it finished in black. It actuates real nice and the kick tab makes it easy and certainly more ergonomic than the chicken stick. Looks a bit like a sore thumb to me. To others it may add to the line.

Instrumentation. Yes and no. Yes, I prefer an analog tach, and no, I don't have that luxury any longer. Here I have to put my faith in Yamaha's design engineers and yield to their wisdom. Functionality can only be assessed fairly with riding time. Navigation is simple and straightforward with a “flow” as expected. One menu button to cycle between Suspension, Grips, and Data, and a rocker switch for up/down. Control is reasonably placed and operated. Forefinger for the menu and thumb for up/down. From a cosmetic standpoint it's got an efficient, clean look with excellent legibility. It's position is slightly higher which I prefer. I'm fond of the mounting bar above it as it allows for a safe and clean center mount for GPS, for which I had previously paid 80-something for an SW Motech center mount.

Gotta get this one out of that way... That damnable U-Joint guard. I had a 0-mph fall on my '12 when my pant leg caught on it. I was aware of it... Always avoided it... And it caught up with me. I'd have thought they would have done something similar to the Altrider guard that eliminates the pant catch. It's on order. I love the bike, but I'm sure there'll be times when I want to get off it without an argument.

Electronic suspension. Other than saying it has it I can't say anything else about it yet, although I now have a delightful small fixture mounted behind my pillion's right footpeg.

LED turn signals are a welcome improvement as well as a cosmetic boost. More light, and the smaller package doesn't compete with the bike's excellent design. I now see better why others had changed over to them.

Mirrors. Definitely more stylish. Viewed head-on I felt the originals looked a tad staid. Certainly a bit more on the assertive side now, ala Bat-bikish.

Windscreen. Obviously can't speak to functionality yet, but it cuts a nice profile, is more stylish, and above all is adjustable sans tools. The '12's screen in the top position gave me a small amount of airflow on the top of my helmet which was appreciated in the warmer months as it aided in helmet ventilation significantly. This one looks like I can have that or not.

Glad I'm not laying out $450.00 for OEM heated grips. Haven't tried them, but hope they've addressed the power imbalance, as on the '12 the left grip radiated just a bit less heat than the right. Wasn't an issue at all, but it was discernible as many have noted.

I figure about 10K miles or so will give me enough history to fully comment on the engine as the '12's motor seemed to really improve around then and ever since. I'm certain that there's going to be some (to what degree I have no idea) improvement by just the mapping tweaks alone. The '12, at 22k miles is still improving upon itself in terms of feel, and smoothness. Of course those conclusions are drawn solely from my ears and the seat of my pants, but are nonetheless tangible. It's note seems very similar if not the finest hair angrier, but it's new and an accurate opinion can't be formed yet.

Time for farkles. I'm not going down this road too heavily, especially because the S10 is such a nicely equipped machine, but there's a few things I need on it:

1. Power distribution. Putting in a Fuzeblock.
2. Rigid Industries SR2 6” LED light bar – spectre, driving beam
3. Garmin Zumo 350LM
4. Famsa Tank Bag
5. USB charger
6. AltRider u-joint guard

I use Kriega dry bags in addition to the panniers and that'll all be the same.

The new under-the-headlight cosmetic panel must be relieved in it's center to accommodate the center mounting bracket of the OEM crashguards.

Many differing opinions out there as to which method, or any for that matter, is best for break-in. I didn't design the thing so I'm going by the book just as I had with the '12... And that worked like a charm.

In closing, I've got to say that I'm thrilled at the potential in the garage and am eager to put it in play.

Given some halfway decent weather I'm gone.
 

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::006::

With that said, how does the ES suspension setup work? Can you label your settings for quick-switch?
 

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Travex said:
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Given some halfway decent weather as long as the wife doesn't have anything for me to do I'm gone.

eager to hear from you, i'm still stuck here in god's country waiting for June
 

Travex

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Venture said:
::006::

With that said, how does the ES suspension setup work? Can you label your settings for quick-switch?
Pics aren't a priority today as I drove the bike up from WV then wrote that soliloquy. Presets are already in there in the form of pictograms, 4 per option.
 

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WV to NY is a hike, no doubt. Pics can wait!

Did you have the OEM panniers on your other S10? Any changes there besides color?
 

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Venture said:
::006::

With that said, how does the ES suspension setup work? Can you label your settings for quick-switch?
You get four preload settings: one up, one up with luggage, two up, and two up with luggage.
you get three basic damping settings hard, std, and soft. Then u get +3, +2, +1, 0, -1, -2, and -3 fine damping adjustments off the three main settings. The display and setting seem to be very fine tunable but I haven't had the time to play much either.
 

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I did have the panniers before and like them quite a bit. They get their share of gripes here and there but my experience has been good followed by good maintenance w/cleaning and graphite lube. They're stiff to key as were the others and that will smooth out with time. I'm typically a fan of OEM items and prefer those designs. No changes other than color that I can tell, but I haven't looked anything closely.
 

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Congrats on the new bike. Sorry I missed you (or at least seeing your new ES ;D ) . I did not make it out to Romney yesterday.

As a seasoned S10 rider on version 1, I'm really looking forward to your reviews of the differences as you pile on the miles.
 

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Thanks for your initial impressions. Looking forward to your riding impressions. Mine should be here in April. ::022::
 

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Ran both bikes (2012 & 2014) side by side today for a bit of comparison, 20° & salt keep me from a back to back road comparison. The 14 had a bit more of a whine (sounds tight) to it's revs where the 12, perhaps just by virtue of being broken in, revved with a deeper note. When I posted earlier that the 14 sounded perhaps a hair angrier, I didn't get that impression running them consecutively.

Comparing D-Mode between them found the throttle response fairly equally muted in T mode, but the 14 was considerably more sensitive in S. Less throttle actuation for greater R's to be sure. The 12 is not flashed but has the clutch switch mod.

Played around in the menus and found the interface very intuitive, fast and simple. The more gadget inclined rider would probably find this to be an attraction. I've read comments knocking the necessity of going through an interface simply to turn on heated grips. Fear not: Not lifting your hand from the bars to activate or adjust the heat level is a good thing. On the 12, even with Wasp's excellent relocation bracket, it was still a hand off the bars proposition.
 

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Just ordered my 2014 from Romney! ::015:: George there is great and said I just put the deposit on the last one they have coming in there first shipment. Do not fear he said they have more coming. I'm should be in any day! Great price! I tried to get my local dealer to come close... heck Romney is 450 miles away so I was willing to give my local dealer a bit more. The closest I could get my local dealer was $715 more. I can drive 900 miles round trip for a lot less than $715.

Now... 8) can't wait to get it home... put most of my accessories off my 2012 onto the 2014 and then sell my 2012.

Anyone want a 2012 Raven?
 

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Travex,
You might just be the first voice to credibly describe that the S-mode on the 2014 is a substantially better (different) program. Very interesting. And good news for the 14'ers. :)
 

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Thanks for taking the time to put all these thoughts on paper. Interesting read...
 

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Thanks for sharing your experience with us. ::008::

As the 2014 motor pick up more miles toward full break in I suspect the difference in performance will be even more pronounced. This is indeed very good news, especially when your comparison is against a bike with the CSM. My hat is off to Yamaha! ::014::

Paul
 

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Congrats mingo!

Conrgrats to you too Brick! Good for you. Our tales of cost and travel differ little. Check your PM.

Snakebitten: I hope and expect to see a nice difference once ridden. The bike is punctuating this elongated winter.

Big Blu: You're very welcome. I'm pleased to be able to offer a bit of what I've gained here. This forum has been such a tremendous resource in a number of ways. Had a guy contact me the other day that's interested in the '12. He heard of it from ADV and I promptly pointed him over here so he could become better informed. So much good will here, I should be the one doing the thanking.


I'll continue to post up anything that might be considered useful and will get around to pics and ride impressions as I can. As I'm fortunate to have the two at the moment I'd be glad to do any comparisons that I'm not thinking of... So please nudge me if you'd like to know something in particular.
 

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Thanks, Travex. Just a minor annoyance, but do the cables still partially obstruct the display, as they do to the clock on the 2013 and prior?

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