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NickBrewer3 said:
Anybody notice that the area under the headlight is different on the 2014? How is that going to effect installing auxiliary lights?
I think someone mentioned the added piece is just removable cover.
 

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At the bike show a friend of mine looked at that area under the headlight and said " that's it, that is the beginning of a beak" :)
 

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Tenerists. I had a test run on a 2014 Tenere today. It felt an awful lot smoother sharper and refined in comparison to my present one which I have had for 2 years and put almost 15000 miles. I live in Ireland which is small. I am led to believe that 3500 for Ireland is am average. I am over that and got short chsnged where p/exs come in. Finish that. With new system I have lost under seat for autocom and radio. Anyone any ideas where to put it?
 

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Went to Daytona Saturday and saw the 2014 on display. 2013 were in the demo fleet. Wanted to ride the FJR with the wife to compare to my S10. It was smooth and fun but we were both happy to get back on the S10. I also rode the FZ09. Wow, it is speeding ticket waiting to be signed. What a fun bike for under 8k.

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fjrden said:
Tenerists. I had a test run on a 2014 Tenere today. It felt an awful lot smoother sharper and refined in comparison to my present one which I have had for 2 years and put almost 15000 miles. I live in Ireland which is small. I am led to believe that 3500 for Ireland is am average. I am over that and got short chsnged where p/exs come in. Finish that. With new system I have lost under seat for autocom and radio. Anyone any ideas where to put it?
Thank you for the feed back. That's exactly what I wanted to hear and was expecting as a result of the motor/clutch/mapping changes. ::014:: ::013:: ::008::

Can you comment on throttle response as compared to your current bike? Have you had your ECU re-flashed?

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Thanks, fjrden for the short review of the '14 model. BTW, my brother and his wife live in Newry. :)

I'm close to ordering a '14 and unloading my 2012. The only sticking point is the salesman hasn't been able to confirm that the OEM heated grips are an accessory for the 2014 base model as they aren't shown on the accessory page for the '14. They are, however, shown for the 2014 Canadian model. Still, I would like official confirmation. The salesman couldn't answer the question, so I told him to call his regional rep, or, failing that, to call HQ in Cypress, CA. I have to admit it was a little fun making him earn the sale this way, although it wasn't really my intent to put him through this, but, then again, it's something he should be able to answer, AND Yamaha shouldn't leave it as an unanswered mystery like they obviously have. I also note the Canadian models have 5 pages of accessories, whereas the U.S. model has only 2 pages. I'll post again once the sales guy gets back to me about the heated grips.
 

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fjrden said:
I had a test run on a 2014 Tenere today. It felt an awful lot smoother sharper and refined in comparison to my present one which I have
Sounds like the engine revisions Yamaha has done on the 2014 have indeed worked to exorcise the vibration that is being reported on the earlier models. Have to give Yamaha a ::008:: for that.

When you say sharper and refined, what exactly do you mean? I'm hoping it means that buyers of the 2014 models don't have to spend the money on a re-flash like the 2012 and 2013 buyers did.
 

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Mr. Jones said:
Sounds like the engine revisions Yamaha has done on the 2014 have indeed worked to exorcise the vibration that is being reported on the earlier models.
We've had one brief anecdotal report. Way WAY too soon to know much, especially on something as subjective as vibration.

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Okay, a sort-of update on the heated grips/accessories situation. My salesguy called back and said he talked to the regional sales rep., who informed him heated grips were not available for the base model. Still finding this hard to believe, I called Yamaha corporate in Cypress where a nice lady informed me that it's possible that more details on accessories will be released in early May. That's not very definitive at all, but then again the bikes won't even be arriving until April (base) and May (ES), so I suppose there is time for them to get their sh*t together as far as the accessories go. I also notice they don't show the OEM skidplate as an accessory (not that I want that item), but it does make it seem like they haven't released all the accessories yet.

Maybe I'm making too big of a deal over the heated grips, I don't know. I just want to know if they will be available or not. Maybe living near the arctic circle makes heated grips inordinately important to me -- could be. Anyways, not sure if anyone will get any benefit from this existential crisis of mine, but I hope they do...
 

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markjenn said:
We've had one brief anecdotal report. Way WAY too soon to know much, especially on something as subjective as vibration.

- Mark
Fair enough, you make a valid point. It would be better to wait and see if others who have ridden the 2014 say the vibration issue has been fixed as well before declaring it a success.
 

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Scoobynut said:
Maybe I'm making too big of a deal over the heated grips, I don't know. I just want to know if they will be available or not. Maybe living near the arctic circle makes heated grips inordinately important to me -- could be. Anyways, not sure if anyone will get any benefit from this existential crisis of mine, but I hope they do...
FWIW I don't think you're making a big deal of it. It's odd that a mfg wouldn't have such a potentially important accessory available. At least the Oxford alternative exists if they don't come through. OTOH, we should count ourselves fortunate if this is the worst curve tossed.
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Mr. Jones said:
Fair enough, you make a valid point. It would be better to wait and see if others who have ridden the 2014 say the vibration issue has been fixed as well before declaring it a success.
Even more, I'd like to see some back-to-back riding reports and/or see if anyone in the magazines comments that they think things have changed. I must admit that I'm skeptical of any significant improvement with respect to vibration because I've never had any issue with vibration with the current bike. Maybe I've got a lucky bike, but to me, the vibes of the current bike are some of the lowest I've ever experienced with a big twin. And many of the complaints I've heard center around 3K-3.5K vibes under heavy load - in my book, that's lugging this engine.

What is ripe for improvement is a removal of the power restrictions in the first three gears and a general "livening" of the engine response. More peak power would be welcome to, but given that Yamaha has said that the bump is only 2-hp, I don't think this will be very noticeable.

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No offense to my forum friends, but I'm gonna have to ride and compare myself. Or at least hear consensus from a few of you fellas that have established Version 1 history AND get a decent run on a 14 to make the comparison.

I personally don't believe the OEM 14 motor has been altered as much as the flash altered the V1. It might be noticeably "refined" over the OEM V1, but there is a reason the bikes aren't delivered running the way they do after an aftermarket flash has been developed. I just don't believe they can pass worldwide testing.

Those engineers aren't inept. And if they are, they still are. Lol
And the lawyers, to whatever degree they influence the product, they are still there too.

I predict there will be ECU-unleashed, and Flash Tuned, and Diapson products available to cure the ills of the 2014 too.
 

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snakebitten said:
No offense to my forum friends, but I'm gonna have to ride and compare myself. Or at least hear consensus from a few of you fellas that have established Version 1 history AND get a decent run on a 14 to make the comparison.

I personally don't believe the OEM 14 motor has been altered as much as the flash altered the V1. It might be noticeably "refined" over the OEM V1, but there is a reason the bikes aren't delivered running the way they do after an aftermarket flash has been developed. I just don't believe they can pass worldwide testing.

Those engineers aren't inept. And if they are, they still are. Lol
And the lawyers, to whatever degree they influence the product, they are still there too.

I predict there will be ECU-unleashed, and Flash Tuned, and Diapson products available to cure the ills of the 2014 too.
The after market guys will always be there to take our money. ::025::

Windscreens, seat, exhausts, suspension, mapping, etc., those plucking manufactures can't do anything right! ::010::



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An update on my heated grip obsession; I now see that heated grips are no longer shown as an accessory for the Canadian base 2014. I'm starting to think that maybe they will not be offered as an accessory after all. If so, I'm a little surprised and a lot disappointed if that is the decision Yamaha has made for North American models. I'm wondering if Oxford heated grips will be a viable option at this point.
 

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Scoobynut said:
An update on my heated grip obsession; I now see that heated grips are no longer shown as an accessory for the Canadian base 2014. I'm starting to think that maybe they will not be offered as an accessory after all. If so, I'm a little surprised and a lot disappointed if that is the decision Yamaha has made for North American models. I'm wondering if Oxford heated grips will be a viable option at this point.
I feel certain there will be an aftermarket alternative for the heated grips once the bike is released. I would be surprised if the kit available for the 2012-2013 models would not work on the 2014 base model. That might take some tinkering but I would think it could be done. Just my thoughts. YMMV
 

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clint64 said:
I feel certain there will be an aftermarket alternative for the heated grips once the bike is released. I would be surprised if the kit available for the 2012-2013 models would not work on the 2014 base model. That might take some tinkering but I would think it could be done. Just my thoughts. YMMV
I think it's possible that Yamaha may have taken a look at how you need to remove the throttle cables from the stock control assembly and re-install the throttle cable ends into the new throttle cable assembly supplied with the heated grips and concluded -- after running it by the attorneys, of course -- that it might create a liability situation in conjuction with the cruise control if the heated grips are installed improperly, either by the owner or dealer mechanic. Granted, this is only a theory on my part, but I think the way the heated grips are integrated on the ES model lends my 'conspiracy theory' some credence. With the integrated grips of the ES, there's no need for anyone to monkey with the throttle cables. Food for thought anyways.

Well, sh*t. I do want that cruise control badly. I have an excel throttle lock on my '12, and it works pretty well on flat roads, but it is so hilly where I live that I think using it wears my arm out more than not using it due to having to constantly adjust it. I suppose I could always install that Australian electronic cruise on my '12, which although spendy, would still save me a boatload over trading for a '14. Then again, most likely some aftermarket heated grips could be installed on the '14, which I have to admit is my first preference, damn the cost. Why are cruise & heated grips so important to me? I live on the wide open prairies and sometimes ride 500-700 miles at a whack, and it can also get pretty cold on the hands up here even in the summer. So there's my dilemma. I'm open to any counselling anyone can offer. :-\
 

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Heated gloves made all the difference for me. The top of the fingers and tips stay toasty keeping the blood flowing. Feels 80 degrees on my hands when it is 40.
 

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bauerboy said:
Heated gloves made all the difference for me. The top of the fingers and tips stay toasty keeping the blood flowing. Feels 80 degrees on my hands when it is 40.
bauerboy, that's an alternative I hadn't considered, but I suspect I would still prefer heated grips over that solution. Do you have to plug the gloves into a heated jacket or are they stand alone? How are they powered?
 
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