2013 Ténéré 250cc !

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I was on the net the other day and came upon pics of the 2013 Ténéré 250cc, woah I did not know we had a baby in the family ! now Yamaha has 3 models in the Ténéré line. Bummer we may have to to rename this great forum if they bring the 250cc to the US/CND!
 

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jackfis said:
I was on the net the other day and came upon pics of the 2013 Ténéré 250cc, woah I did not know we had a baby in the family ! now Yamaha has 3 models in the Ténéré line. Bummer we may have to to rename this great forum if they bring the 250cc to the US !
Looks like it uses the same 20hp air-cooled motor as the XT250. With all that extra weight from the bodywork, it is likely a dog. Shame Yamaha's not using the TT250R motor in it, nice and grunty with 30hp.

 

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http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=633147

This new Ténéré XTZ 250 makes use of the base of Lander 250, which will continue to be marketed, however, with cosmetic changes and dynamics. The motorcycle received a more impressive, with a new optical block, which has two halogen lamps of 55 watts. In addition, the new bike has a half-fairing and a small windshield.
An interesting change occurred in the fuel tank of Ténéré 250, now replaced by 16 liters (4.5 reserve) while Lander is 11 liters. Thus, the Yamaha shows the pretensions of the new 250 more cruisers. Yamaha has also changed the seat of Ténéré, the motorcycle handlebars are lower and the suspensions have undergone changes.
 

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Bought my first new motorcycle 42 years and 60 pounds ago. It was a Yamaha DT2 250 so this 250cc thing sounds good, but... this fatboy needs more grunt. 450cc? or what about a 660 in the USA. Yamaha the perfect companion for the Super Tenere 1200 is the XT660. Bring the XT660 to the USA and I promise to recycle my KLR. Hello is there anyone out there? Hello!
 

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We get the WR250R in the US and it's likely a better bike than that. WR is EFI, alloy frame, great suspension and brakes. A bit pricey but it comes with the good stuff.
 

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tomatocity said:
Bought my first new motorcycle 42 years and 60 pounds ago. It was a Yamaha DT2 250 so this 250cc thing sounds good, but...
I had the DT3, what a blast! I loved that little 2-cycle machine but it could not haul my lard-a$$ around now. My buddy's DR650 works OK for me though.
 

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@400cc / @ 35bhp would be better, be capable of cruising at a decent commute / getting to dirt speed and have plenty of grunt once off the hard stuff.

20BHP is just too weedy IMO, good for learners and newbies maybe.
 

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Ditto that.

My WR250R with a 3.5 gallon tank and Wolfman luggage is a genuine adventure bike with bias towards dual-sport whereas my XT1200Z is a genuine adventure bike with bias towards touring. They make a lovely couple in my garage. I ride one or the other on a daily basis

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We get the WR250R in the US and it's likely a better bike than that. WR is EFI, alloy frame, great suspension and brakes. A bit pricey but it comes with the good stuff.
 

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This bikes are produced and sold in Brasil, it´s the same engine of the XT250 Lander

It´s a very expensive 250cc bike, because Brasil it´s a very expensive country this days, that´s the reason because it isn´t sold in Chile (we are a kind of neighbors)




SORRY I MISS the real photograph... this is a photoshop photo, not the real!!!



(as always, sorry about my spanglish!)
 

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USACelt said:
The pic of that 250 ten. Looks like the motor is water cooled. That is a water pump on the side. Right?

They're air-cooled... That's the oil filter cover on the right side in front of the clutch on the case cover, just like on the US model XT250. It uses a paper cartridge oil filter that fits into a spot inside that case cover, and then an aluminum cover bolts on top of that, held by the three bolt head seen in the picture.

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USACelt said:
The pic of that 250 ten. Looks like the motor is water cooled. That is a water pump on the side. Right?
The tan bike in the first post looks water cooled to me, the black one farther down the page, air cooled. Its the same as the blue
one just above it .
 

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S_Palmer said:
The tan bike in the first post looks water cooled to me, the black one farther down the page, air cooled. Its the same as the blue
one just above it .

Despite its caption the "tan bike" at the top of the page is a Yamaha XT660Z Tenere single (edit: now that picture error has been corrected in the first post, and shows the proper air-cooled 250 - see OP's correction post below on this page), not a 250. You can see that for yourself here: http://www.yamaha-motor.eu/eu/products/motorcycles/adventure/xt660z.aspx

Currently the only 250cc dual-purpose bike Yamaha is producing is the WR250R. All their other current dual-purpose 250's are air-cooled, including this newly released 250cc Tenere.

Just FYI...

Dallara




p.s. - BTW, you might notice the XT660Z carries its oil filter just above its water-pump housing on the rights-side clutch case cover, and it, too, uses a small paper element cartridge.
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Dallara said:
They're air-cooled... That's the oil filter cover on the right side in front of the clutch on the case cover, just like on the US model XT250. It uses a paper cartridge oil filter that fits into a spot inside that case cover, and then an aluminum cover bolts on top of that, held by the three bolt head seen in the picture.

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Dallara, dual disc front brakes for a 250 (lower picture). Your thoughts?
 
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Yamaha seems to know what they are doing regarding marketing. There are Yamaha dealers every 100 or so miles throughout most of Latin America.. Much more prevalent than the other big names. Best dealer network there is. FWIW, the typical bike down here is a 125cc. Picture Mom & pop, with 2 kids aboard going to market or to church, and you now see the middle class. Honda, Suzuki, etc. all sell far more 125's than anything else. Pizza delivery, propane delivery, plumber's vehicle, you name it....the 125 is king, as are 50cc scooters. The Chinese Genesis brand has made huge inroads vs. the top 3, often selling like models at a 60% discount to the brand names. And yes, they sell. Right now, there is but one 250cc Yamaha available in all of Honduras, what with gas at $5/gal on my island and $4.50/gal on the mainland. Yes, VZ and Cuba have it a lot better.
On the other hand, for those that "have", the Yamaha cruiser bikes are popular, as are Ducatis, Harleys, Triumphs, Beemers and various other crotch rockets.. (Honda only chooses to market 125's) My 2014 S10, when it arrives in Dec/Jan, will be the 3rd one in this country.
Just a bit of insight.....
Safe Riding,
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Clearly a photoshop, the radiator added to the air-cooled motor gives it away. ::025::

Guess they were trying to show what a 250 Tenere would look like if it was based on a WR250R instead of the XT250. Pretty cool actually.
 

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Dallara, dual disc front brakes for a 250 (lower picture). Your thoughts?

I think dual front discs would be overkill in the extreme... Of course, obviously so does Yamaha. Take a close look at the picture of the actual production one in this picture:






It's only got a single front disc. It's even more readily apparent in this picture, too...






And in this one, as well...






Also pretty apparent it is most assuredly air-cooled, and has no water radiators, etc. Lots more info on the bike on Yamaha Brazil's web site here: http://www.yamaha-motor.com.br/motos-nacionais/xtz-250-tenere

Just a few real pictures getting a bit mixed up with mis-captioned and photoshopped ones.

I'd actually love to have one, and I think it'd sell reasonably well in the USA. One of the problems with literally all the 250cc dual-purpose bikes sold in the USA is fuel capacity - in that none of them have enough IMHO. Another is that many of them, like the WR250R, have such high seat heights that they scare many riders off. Looks to me like this new 250cc Tenere has enough fuel capacity to allow sufficient range for many out-west areas where gas stations can be far away... Add to that the fact it's fuel injected and uses the simpler air-cooled Yamaha 250 single that doesn't have to be revved as hard as the WR250R and you'd have a great commuter and dual-purpose explorer.

I'd buy one. I almost bought a WR250R a while back, but the high seat height turned me away because there was no way my girlfriend could ride it. And the XT250 was out because it just doesn't have the fuel range I'd like to have and nobody in the aftermarket makes a larger tank. One of the reasons I want a 250 dual-purpose bike is so she can ride it, too, but nothing fits the bill right now.


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