The bike that started my Adventuring

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This is a link to another "adventure" themed site. It is a build thread documenting my bike transformation from a '96 bmw R1100RT into some wild contraption built for true adventure. While my modifications have proven rock solid, the bmw underneath it all has let me down and cost me money, time and 2.5 days of a GREAT ride. This bike is what really fueled my desire to adventure ride and there is some of my underlying reasons in the thread, but after finding out that I LOVE the adventure riding lifestyle and can still do it, the bike hard part failures have lead me to this site and a desire to own a ::021:: brand of motorcycle, namely a ::022::

It is 6 pages of Q&A and some harassment, but I can handle the yahoos. Tell me what you think, if you don't feel like reading it at, at least look through the pics....I have since renamed the build "Muttley"....you will see why, and since built my own set of aluminum panniers.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=889253
 

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I'm impressed. As a guy with very little mechanical ability your creativity paired with skill is very impressive for me. As for what anyone else says, F'em. Your toy, your ride ::003::
 

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Wow, it's hard to believe that started out as an RT!



Great job!


The Super T will be a lot heavier, but I think you will find it's more reliable. This isn't a dig on the BMW aspect, it's just a reality of scratch-building, as you found with your muffler coming apart.
 

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Thanks people. It was really fun building it and really helped my head while I was down from the surgeries. My brain needed some MC fix and the thought of getting back and adv touring was a lift for my soul.

It is fun to ride over all, but with the high front fender, fork mounted fairing and gauges, long travel and knobbie tires it is good off road, better than most big adv bike I would say, but it definitely leaves a bit to be desired on the hiway. I have learned that a bias a bit more street based would probably fit my needs more. I still want to be able to go where ever I want to, but enjoy the tar getting there more.

Someone mention "koolaide", I think you meant the koolaide of the Tenere? If so, I am fully aware that any thing mechanical can, and will have issues at times. I accept that. But the "truth in engineering" brand is just not true now days. My trans is clunky, like so bad it is worse than my '49 Studebaker 3 on the tree w/OD tans. So is my buddies '08 GSA. Unbelievable that is what passes as "German engineering".

Then if you read my RR in a different area here on this site called "Epic ride...until" you will see that parts availability and in stock issues suck on the BMW. When I blew up the fuel pump at 24k miles for no reason in the middle of no where outside of Visalia Ca. I found out that, #1, bmw does not care about stocking parts for any bike older that 10 yrs old. #2 there may be many dealers near where I live {live 8 within an hour or so} they are few and far between in rural America which is where I like to ride the most.

Nearest dealer from Visalia is Fresno or San Fernando...couple of hours in opposite directions and neither had what I needed in stock. Yet, right in Visalia there was a Yamaha dealer that had 2 Tenere's in stock and many parts for them on the shelf. When you look at the very full line of vehicles Yamaha offers the number of dealers and the even in more remote areas is WAYYYYYYYYY better. With them selling snowmobiles, they will be anywhere in upper elevations, and they can still order bike parts. With them selling boats and PWC they are anywhere with water....again they can order parts even if they are mostly a boat dealer. With them selling generators and farm type quads and side x sides they are anywhere in farm country...same for bigger cities that are big MC markets. Just way more options if you have an issue.

I also am sold on the cost of parts...I looked up a Fuel pump for a ST and they were $139 or so and the filter and sock were fairly cheap. A pump from BMW for my beast was $328 and $59 for the filter and $39 for a stupid pick up sock = $426 as opposed to $150-160 from Yamaha........If meant Yamaha koolaide, you are right...Im in
 

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::008:: Just read through your build post on ADV... awesome beammer chop! can't wait to see what you do with the Super Tenere. Some very good examples of beautiful TIG welding, you are right about your welder buddy. I don't have a clue about that t6 discussion... years ago I did a lot of MIG work with 6061 t6 sched 40 and sheet but we never tried to get the temper back at our weld joints.

Is this desire to chop a 3rd generation Harley family gene? The head work reminds me of how we used to raise the head on old dog leg Harley frames before custom frames were available. we didn't worry about temper, but then again we didn't worry about much back then... ::26:: ::26::
 

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The only mod I have planned on a new Tenere if I can work out a deal on one would be build my own set of boxes rather than the stock plastic ones. They are fine for pure street or very mild off tar work, but I hope to push a bit harder that that.
I learned a lot on my first set of boxes and am dying to build another set. Solid 0.090" aluminum scribed and bent, TIG welded joints and SS hinges. That and maybe the reflash of course. Not a whole lot I think it needs.

But thanks.

Yes, there were a lot of chopped up HD, Indians, Beezers, and trumpets in my past. Then came the 70s and a bunch of shock lay downs for more travel and frame gussets from fractures...anybody riding for very long has usually messed with something. Some more than others... ::008::
 

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Well done kmac ::008::

Back in the day when I was Adventure riding on my CB250 (it was called just riding back then) I used to see the occasional BMW (you had a choice of new boxer, used boxer or rebuilt boxer back then) I was impressed by the fact that you cold buy most bits for most models (I suppose there were only 3 or so). They were underrated, over built and kept chugging along (compared to Harleys which seemed to litter the Highways on every ride). Heck they didn't even leak oil or strip bevel gears. I put that into the back of my head and thought one days when I am rich..

Then BMW (bikes) almost went broke. I think at that point they decided that maybe the Japanese had a formula.

A bit of pizazz and excitement maybe. They tried to kill the boxer, it wouldn't die.

Fast forward to 2010 and BMW have managed to combine Harley and the Japanese. Still expensive, break a lot but have "stuff". In the meantime the Japanese have started making what BMW did make.
They decided that some of their range would be sensible, solid reliable and unchanged for years.
Honda ST1300 is a fine example. Suzuki VStrom unchanged for 10 years pretty much. Not like the 70's.

So when the S10 came along it was just that. versatile, reliable, reasonable parts prices, good backup but with the added benefit that there are dealers everywhere and they don't cost silly money. But at least they refine a bit every 5 years.

I was a bit surprised when I decided to get back into riding how things had changed. Chinese BMW's, Rotax motors, Japanese bits. BMW is very much a "market engineering" firm now and are not what they used to be. It's about image and profit. Having almost died in the 80's I suppose I don't blame them, but it still irks me, just as it does with Harley.

Funny thing is during the 90's I almost lost interest in bikes. You were either on a something that would fall to pieces or you were on a ballistic missile. The general purpose bike almost disappeared.

Glad they are back. I still wish YAMAHA would do a XT900Z though.
 

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Nice build. I like things that end up looking like they came from the factory that way. Outstanding work. ::008::

Graham: I agree with everything you said. The XT900Z sounds enticing.
 
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