Replacing brake/clutch lines

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I haven't changed the brake lines, but get yourself a service manual. Need to make sure you don't get air in the abs system.
 

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Koinz said:
I haven't changed the brake lines, but get yourself a service manual. Need to make sure you don't get air in the abs system.
??? ???

This is sure to generate a LONG thread, very shortly. :'(
 

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I just got Tabasco’s long brake/clutch lines and was wondering if anyone has installed them and can give me any advice. Is it easy to do? Did you have any problems bleeding the lines? Thanks
I removed the gas tank to give me more room.

My biggest problem was separating the hose from the metal line. WAY-WAY TO TIGHT
I have a Snap-On 10mm tubing wrench and it still wanted to round out. I totally removed the clutch line and had to put a vice grip on it. On the brake side when it did not come easy I just put the vice grip on.

As for bleeding, follow the manual and it was super easy to bleed out.
 

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varacost said:
I just got Tabasco’s long brake/clutch lines and was wondering if anyone has installed them and can give me any advice. Is it easy to do? Did you have any problems bleeding the lines? Thanks
If you have any questions im here to answer them for you.... FEEL FREE to call / PM / Email anytime..... ;)

Yes, for anyone looking to do this themselves, use the correct tubing wrench, looks like this....


Also, the banjo fittings CAN swivel. These are the fittings that attach to the brake / clutch reservoirs...
 

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~TABASCO~ said:
If you have any questions im here to answer them for you.... FEEL FREE to call / PM / Email anytime..... ;)

Yes, for anyone looking to do this themselves, use the correct tubing wrench, looks like this....


Also, the banjo fittings CAN swivel. These are the fittings that attach to the brake / clutch reservoirs...
Jaxon,
I noticed your long brake lines have hash marks on the hex's. Does this mean they are left-handed threads or is the hash marks just for looks? :question:
 

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Kevhunts said:
Jaxon,
I noticed your long brake lines have hash marks on the hex's. Does this mean they are left-handed threads or is the hash marks just for looks? :question:
Kev did you get an answer?
 

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They are normal standard threads... ::008::
 

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Kevhunts said:
Jaxon,
I noticed your long brake lines have hash marks on the hex's. Does this mean they are left-handed threads or is the hash marks just for looks? :question:
Kev, Hash marks on the head of the bolts simply indicates the strenth of the bolt.

Quick reference for you.
http://www.unified-eng.com/scitech/bolt/boltmarks.html
 

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Koinz said:
Kev, Hash marks on the head of the bolts simply indicates the strenth of the bolt.

Quick reference for you.
http://www.unified-eng.com/scitech/bolt/boltmarks.html
Koinz,
The marks I was referring to are on the corners of the hex of the fasteners. Most people's first experience with left handed threads is when they snap off the head of a bolt or a nut. ::010::
When I saw Jaxon's brake lines and read the earlier post that someone had difficulty breaking the orignal brake lines loose, I thought maybe they were turning the wrong way. :eek:
If you look closely at the right hand mirror mount on your bike, you will see it has those hash marks. (Left hand threads!) ::008::
 

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Kevhunts said:
If you look closely at the right hand mirror mount on your bike, you will see it has those hash marks. (Left hand threads!) ::008::
I found out it was LH when I snaped my RH mirror off on my work bench when removing the bike from the lift with the side stand down, ::010::
 

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Kev.....

Good eye.... At least you asked.... If they where LH I would have told people up front so they wouldn't tear up parts and a new bike... Also it would have been in bold text in the included instructions.... They are all standard ! ::008::
 

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Kevhunts said:
Koinz,
The marks I was referring to are on the corners of the hex of the fasteners. Most people's first experience with left handed threads is when they snap off the head of a bolt or a nut. ::010::
When I saw Jaxon's brake lines and read the earlier post that someone had difficulty breaking the orignal brake lines loose, I thought maybe they were turning the wrong way. :eek:
If you look closely at the right hand mirror mount on your bike, you will see it has those hash marks. (Left hand threads!) ::008::
I've seen those marks on lots of fasteners that were not left hand thread, so while I can't say why they are there, I can also say they aren't limited to left hand thread types either.

Yamaha has always had reverse right (left hand threads) on the RHS mirrors, as far back as I've had them, which would be early to mid sixties. That way, if you tip over or hit something, they just come loose ( and whack you on the forearm)

Back to those marks: I have a set of mirrors sitting in my tool box, left and right, Yamaha factory, and the locknuts of both have the marks. Right side is typical left hand thread, left side is standard right hand threads. So again, I wouldn't use that as an indicator of thread direction.
 

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What can you do? There are probably a lot of fasteners out there that do not comply with the standards set by SAE, ASTM, or ISO.
 

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Ok, today I got the Tabasco’s long lines installed and this is what my mechanic did. He first removed both side covers (right side complete) then removed a few screws from the top portion of both black plastic walls, where the battery, on one side and radiator on the other, are attached to, in order to have more room to work. He then loosened (just a bit) the brake line from the lower fitting, then removed the master cylinder cover and sucked the brake fluid with some kind of gadget that looks like a pistol with a plastic line and a container attached to it. When the master cylinder was empty, he removed the banjo bolt and the lower fitting and installed the new line. He then turned the steering all the way to the left so that the hose end of the master cylinder is lower than the right side and filled the master cylinder with fluid and started to squeeze the lever, very gentle and just a little bit at a time. Every time he squeezed, air bubbles came to the surface. He continued to do this for about five minutes until there was no more bubbles and put the cover on the cylinder and gave it a few squeezes all the way in until you can feel the pressure on the lever. Then removed the cylinder cover and finished filling it up. According to him, by doing it this way you avoid having to bleed the whole system and only use very little fluid. He then did the clutch hose the same way.
Once we placed the handle bar in position (I have the 2” Rox risers), the hoses were fine but the throttle cables were to tie, so we placed them upside down, like somebody did and posted some pictures not too long ago. The mechanic removed the cables and grip and drilled a new hole for the pin on the opposite side of the bar, installed the cables and now everything works fine.
Thanks Jaxon, the lines work fine.
 

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AWESOME !! Enjoy the new comfort and control ! ::008::
 

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Bike looks great ! I like your graphics ! ::008::
 
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