Looking for a photo of the OEM Pannier Mount kit!

[PaulThePhotographer]

I am thinking about getting the OEM side cases for my "Super Tenere".

But as much as I searched and googled I could not find one single photo of the 'Mount Kit" for the OEM Panniers.

So if anyone out there has the OEM Panniers, could you please post a photo of the "Mount Kit" installed on your "Super Tenere" WITHOUT the cases attached, please.

And if you like the way they way the cases go on and come off.

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The reason is, I already have a FJR 1300 and I really like the ease of putting the cases, on and off the FJR 1300. And the clean look of the FJR even with the cases removed.

And I believe most of the time, I will be riding my "ST" without cases, but I don't want a big mounting rack attached all the time. So if the the OEM mounting brackets are unobtrusive I might be happy to just go with them.

Thanks in advance,

Paul
PaulThePhotographer

 

[Twitch]

Click HERE Paul. This should be helpful.

Welcome to the Forum, Paul.

I happen to be a resident of Temple Terrace, so if you'd rather look at them in person, let me know.

 

[fredz43]

Paul, here are a couple shots that may help. The first is me sitting on a display bike that Yamaha had at our dealer last January. You can see the black bracket at the rear side of the bike under the hand hold bar and that is for the OEM bags. There is also an unobtrusive bracket near the passenger footpeg.

The other pic illustrates another solution that may work for you. SW-Motech, Givi and I believe, Hepco Becker make quick release racks, so that it is easy to remove them when you are not wanting to use the bags. It sounds like you are like me in that I only install my racks and bags when going on a trip. Otherwise I only have the small quick release tabs on the bike. I have the SW-Motech racks that can be used with several brands of bags, depending on which adapters you get for them. If you look at the second pic you will see two small brackets where the passenger grab handles fasten. There is another at the bottom rear of the passenger foot peg. This leaves a clean look when not using the bags for someone who doesn't use their bags every day.

EDIT: I didn't see Twitch's excellent link before I posted this.

 

[Twitch]

EDIT: I didn't see Twitch's excellent link before I posted this.

Yeah, but that's a hell of a great photo of you there. ::012::

 

[colorider]

Welcome to the forum Paul! Even if you choose to go with one of the aftermarket offerings, the bulk of the mounts are easily removable, leaving only small "receivers" on the bike. This is the case with either the SW-Motech or Givi mounts at least.

Good luck!!

Rod

 

[SisuTen]

Welcome to the forum Paul! Even if you choose to go with one of the aftermarket offerings, the bulk of the mounts are easily removable, leaving only small "receivers" on the bike. This is the case with either the SW-Motech or Givi mounts at least.

Good luck!!

Rod

Same story on the Caribous, as well

 

[markjenn]

From Waspworks writeup in advrider....

Here is what you have left after removing the Yamaha OEM bag (the black rail at the top and the brace near the footpeg):

And what you have left after removing a typical aftermarket bag (in this case the racks used by Trax, Givi, and perhaps others):

As I understand it, you can further remove the rack assembly for many of the aftermarket mounts, but that obviously requires another step beyond just taking the bags off, messing with fasteners, and having to store the additional hardware.

The aftermarket stuff is probably a lot stronger, of course.

- Mark

 

[Tremor38]

From Waspworks writeup in advrider....

Here is what you have left after removing the Yamaha OEM bag (the black rail at the top and the brace near the footpeg):

And what you have left after removing a typical aftermarket bag (in this case the racks used by Trax, Givi, and perhaps others):

As I understand it, you can further remove the rack assembly for many of the aftermarket mounts, but that obviously requires another step beyond just taking the bags off, messing with fasteners, and having to store the additional hardware.

The aftermarket stuff is probably a lot stronger, of course.

- Mark

Let me just temper this obvious bias toward the OEM bags by mentioning a few points. First, the aftermarket frames shown in the picture are attached to the bike via quick release fasteners...they are much less prominent than the big black loops on either side by the OEM stays. Second, all that remains on the bike from the aftermark setup (SW Motech) are the small and tastefully color-matched L-brackets once you remove the frames. Third, the racks can be adapted to a variety of side bags including being ready for soft bags from the git go.

That said, I will add some levity to my post by acknowledging what Mark said about having one more to thing to put away somewhere besides the bags.

I hope you end up with what's best for you.

 

[colorider]

all that remains on the bike from the aftermark setup (SW Motech) are the small and tastefully color-matched L-brackets once you remove the frames.

Exactly what I was saying in my post above. For the SW Motech mounts there are 4 small tabs/brackets that barely show on each side. For the Givi mounts (IIRC), there are 3, since they use a slightly different bracket near the fender.

Here is a picture off TT's website:

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/imagecatalogue/imageview/13355/?RefererURL=/trade/productview/5690/496/

Note, although they refer to it as a 3-lock, there are actually 4 per side.

 

[SisuTen]

The HB mounts come off with three, quarter turn, captured screws on each side and a cross brace under the fender. You're left with a bracket that spans under the rear grips and a very small tab at the rear footrest mount. Throw the mounts in your case and you're done. 10 minutes off or on, max, on my Caribous.

Seems like much ado about nothing on a bike that's not that attractive in the first place. Of course I have those ugly, unattractive Pelicans, so I'm obviously not affected at all unless the brackets cause a functional problem, and they don't.

Paul

 

[colorider]

Seems like much ado about nothing on a bike that's not that attractive in the first place. Of course I have those ugly, unattractive Pelicans, so I'm obviously not affected at all unless the brackets cause a functional problem, and they don't.

Paul

Good point. If anything by leaving the mounts installed, they offer a bit of protection in case of a slow/no speed tip-over.

::026::

 

[PaulThePhotographer]

::008:: Thanks a lot for al the great information from everyone. Super great post in the link "Twitch" provided! I appreciate them all. (Twitch, I will send you a PM in a couple of minutes.)

When I first read these posts I thought maybe the SW-Motech mounts might work best for me. Because I might even be able to have different cases for different purposes. Some smaller cases just setup for my camera gear, for those days I am only looking to shot some photos. Then other cases for the longer hauls.

But...

With the SW-Motechs, it seems I would also need the "extra" locking mechanisms! Especially when carrying my camera gear!

With the SW-Motechs, it seems I would also need "extra" brackets for the cases also!

Hmmmm,,,, now I have some thinking I need to do.

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Hey SisuTen and ColoRider, "not attractive" please don't talk about my new bride, uh motorcycle that way (my wife of 21 years might read this.

lol)... ::013:: I love the way she looks.

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Thanks again for the information and for the warm welcome.

Paul
PaulThePhotographer

 

[colorider]

Paul, glad we could all be of some help. The SW Motech has worked well for me, but virtually all of the aftermarket offerings have something to offer. I chose the SWM simply because I wanted to run a larger pannier on the right side and their mounts sit closer to the bike on that side. You are right about needing an optional lock if you want to insure that no one removes the mount/bag combo. On my DL1000 years ago, I had the locks, but have not on any other bike since or before. Never really worried about it since whatever I was carrying in my bags would be brought into my motel room every night anyway.

Good luck!

Rod

 

[SisuTen]

Paul, I can understand having more money sitting in the panniers than the bike you're riding is worth. Like Rod, I've never had anyone mess with my cases. I guess I'd avoid putting my company ID on the cases so I didn't draw attention.

The "not attractive" comment comes from the need by some to look good. I generally don't worry about such things (except when my wife makes me wear a tie : ) Actually, I think Yamaha did a good job making a pretty sophisticated bike look functional, which works for me.

What do you shoot with? Nikon, Hasselblad? Subjects?

Glad to have you around!

Paul

 

[Tremor38]

Paul, I can understand having more money sitting in the panniers than the bike you're riding is worth. Like Rod, I've never had anyone mess with my cases. I guess I'd avoid putting my company ID on the cases so I didn't draw attention.

The "not attractive" comment comes from the need by some to look good. I generally don't worry about such things (except when my wife makes me wear a tie : ) Actually, I think Yamaha did a good job making a pretty sophisticated bike look functional, which works for me.

What do you shoot with? Nikon, Hasselblad? Subjects?

Glad to have you around!

Paul

Yeah, I don't leave valuables on the bike...locks or not because it's just asking for trouble IMO. I don't think the S10 is the 'pertiest' bike in the world, but believe it or not, I've had more than one person comment about how good it looks. Like you, I think it achieves a good balance of function vs form. That said, the Caribous radically shift the look to the extreme of 'function.' I applaud those who aren't bothered in the least by that because the 'bous have to be some of the toughest cases built. I just can't quite get over that mental hump. Maybe they look different to the naked eye.

I have a bud at work that actually mounted a yellow Pelican 1400 as a top box on his R1150R and he loves it....although everyone else at the company thinks it doesn't look good on the bike. Ironically, he says he would never consider Pelicans as side cases because they 'look aweful.' Anyway, I guess what I'm saying is there's no right or wrong because everyone has their own idea of what works best for them from a functional and more fickle standpoint.

If a major element of someone's rides involve photography and there's a considerable amount of high-ticket equipment, Pelicans just might be the obvious choice.

 

[colorider]

If a major element of someone's rides involve photography and there's a considerable about of high-ticket equipment, Pelicans just might be the obvious choice.

Even without the considerations of security, if I was planning to carry a significant amount of camer gear routinely, I would opt for the Pelican/Caribou set up. I use one of the Pelican 1510 carry on cases for all my lenses and it offers great protection.

 

[Twitch]

Paul, I added a few photos of the locking mechanism on the factory cases to the mod database entry that I linked in the second post.