Cost of spare front and rear hub/rim

[xylo66]

Not sure where to post this mod, but move if you wish.

Got a quote for a idea to have a set of rims with road tires and a second set with knobblies on to swop out for off-road work ! Here in the UK, its close to £3000 !!!!...yes, fall over backward ! £3k. Each hub and rim is almost £500 each !!...what have they got inside? gold ? geepers. Very disappointed in the high prices for such stock. Have to add discs, spokes, and simple bearings, plus the cost of lacing up the spokes comes to a shade under £3000 ( $4700 ) - ouch!!!

 

[tomatocity]

Did you follow the thread about Woody's Wheel Works. Again not cheap but he knows what he is doing. He worked with a few members to develop the wheels and options.

 

[markjenn]

If you shop around, I think you can do better than this but it is not going to be cheap. I've heard quotes of around $2500 in the states. You certainly have to go Yamaha for the hubs, discs, etc, but there may be options to go aftermarket on the rims/spokes. A lot of guys save money by going ahead and swapping discs during wheel changes. All in all, way too much money for the benefit in my book - I'll put TKC80's on and simply slow down a tad on pavement.

- Mark

 

[20valves]

Or you could spend fewer bucks on one of those cool tire change machines.

 

[Mellow]

You're taking the wheel off/on anyway, spooning off/on the tire is just a little more work once you get the hang of it. I won't say it's easy but does become easier. I have a no mar tire changer which does help.

 

[xylo66]

Thanks for the replies. I agree with the statements.
My main issue I have are my mates around the west of england all have street bikes / blades / MV's / Speed Triple's /Ninja's etc. , so end up having a trip out on the weekends with them. Of course, scare's the s"£%*t out of them when a big trailie keeps up with them minus bug-free visor ! Oh well...might have to invest in speedy tire changes on friday evenings then !


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[Old Git Ray]

The hubs cost so much due to the 96 ABS magnets in each wheel.

This ain't no cheap BMW GS, ring with holes in it, type ABS system. This is the Rolls Royce of braking systems.

However, changing tyres on this bike is a piece of cake.

See here..... http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=18018053&postcount=11217

 

[xylo66]

Thanks Ray. the other option I have is to get rid of my friends

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[Z06]

The hubs cost so much due to the 96 ABS magnets in each wheel.

This ain't no cheap BMW GS, ring with holes in it, type ABS system. This is the Rolls Royce of braking systems.

However, changing tyres on this bike is a piece of cake.

See here..... http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=18018053&postcount=11217

I bought parts and laced up a spare rear wheel. The ABS magnet was a very small part of the cost and is a separate part of the hub.

 

[JaimeV]

Yeah, I am looking for this as well but is very expensive. In the GSA i bought some used wheels at a good price to have the knobs but I cant find used wheels for the ST.
Woody has an excellent quality but to his price you mus add the transport and custom fees to Spain so, very expensive again.
No solution from now on...

 

[motopan]

Hi team, Yes, I discovered all this when I came up against "Butter rims & Loose spokes" last year on our trip from Panama up to both US coasts & back.
We're still having issues with Yamaha, as I feel it's unsafe to ride two up, and that's why we bought this bike. What to do?
Motopan

 

[jajpko]

Hi team, Yes, I discovered all this when I came up against "Butter rims & Loose spokes" last year on our trip from Panama up to both US coasts & back.
We're still having issues with Yamaha, as I feel it's unsafe to ride two up, and that's why we bought this bike. What to do?
Motopan

That is a tough question.. I remember reading about some of your problems, but it is fuzzy. I believe Yamaha should stand behind there wheels, but if not, have you thought of Woodys wheels?

If you bought the bike to ride two up and are afraid of it, the only other choice would be to sell it and buy something else.????

 

[motopan]

Hi Jim, Yeh, your right, I have thought of Woodies, after Yamaha HQ in Pan. City, an 8 hour ride from here, offered to have the rim repaired at a "reputable shop", but when returned 4 week later, looked as if it had been beat on with a brick and big hammer. As we all know, once aluminum has been bent, it needs to be heated to be bent back. The rim was not even taken from the hub. All that was done is the missing spokes were replaced, the tire remounted and returned to Chiriqui Yamaha.
Now Jim, you may be willing to jeopardize precious cargo by using dangerous equipment, but not us. Fear? OK, call it what you want. I think the rest of us, at least those of us with over 60 years of riding experience, would probably call it, "been there, done that" or "I wrote too many tickets for that shit, & put too many riders in Ambulances", to not be safe myself. Fear? Fear is when a young neighbor & his new bride left on an overnight ride using back roads over the Sierras, on rims he took off another bike, straightened them with a hammer & 2x4, then turned up missing for 2 nights before being found by rangers.
Catch up Jim, be part of the team that shares experience & wisdom with the younger riders. Can the youngsters out ride me? Hell yes! Do I care? Hell no! Do we have fun? You bet we do! Rain or shine, we travel on narrow jungle dirt & paved roads 'cuz that's what there is here, we don't have to go looking for it. We chose the S10 because it looked like it would out perform the bikes we had at the time, for our new home of Panama. We bought the first one sold in Central America, (Silver, First Addition) and surprised a lot of US Yam. Dealers, from Coast to Coast, when we pulled in. Most of them had only heard of it, never seen one.
Before I sent the rim to PC, I was asked if I'd consider "a gift of a top box" instead of a rim replacement. We decided a safe rim was probably a wiser choice. We still believe this. Sometimes, losing a full season of long distance adventure rides, to be replaced by short, local group rides with other retired couples that know the hide-a-ways better than us. Come join the fun!
Motopan

 

[jajpko]

Hi Jim, Yeh, your right, I have thought of Woodies, after Yamaha HQ in Pan. City, an 8 hour ride from here, offered to have the rim repaired at a "reputable shop", but when returned 4 week later, looked as if it had been beat on with a brick and big hammer. As we all know, once aluminum has been bent, it needs to be heated to be bent back. The rim was not even taken from the hub. All that was done is the missing spokes were replaced, the tire remounted and returned to Chiriqui Yamaha.
Now Jim, you may be willing to jeopardize precious cargo by using dangerous equipment, but not us. Fear? OK, call it what you want. I think the rest of us, at least those of us with over 60 years of riding experience, would probably call it, "been there, done that" or "I wrote too many tickets for that shit, & put too many riders in Ambulances", to not be safe myself. Fear? Fear is when a young neighbor & his new bride left on an overnight ride using back roads over the Sierras, on rims he took off another bike, straightened them with a hammer & 2x4, then turned up missing for 2 nights before being found by rangers.
Catch up Jim, be part of the team that shares experience & wisdom with the younger riders. Can the youngsters out ride me? Hell yes! Do I care? Hell no! Do we have fun? You bet we do! Rain or shine, we travel on narrow jungle dirt & paved roads 'cuz that's what there is here, we don't have to go looking for it. We chose the S10 because it looked like it would out perform the bikes we had at the time, for our new home of Panama. We bought the first one sold in Central America, (Silver, First Addition) and surprised a lot of US Yam. Dealers, from Coast to Coast, when we pulled in. Most of them had only heard of it, never seen one.
Before I sent the rim to PC, I was asked if I'd consider "a gift of a top box" instead of a rim replacement. We decided a safe rim was probably a wiser choice. We still believe this. Sometimes, losing a full season of long distance adventure rides, to be replaced by short, local group rides with other retired couples that know the hide-a-ways better than us. Come join the fun!
Motopan

Dude, I don't know why your unloading on me. I just tried to answer your question. If you have another word for fear, that's ok with me. I understand not wanting to risk the well being of a loved one.
I really don't know what your mean by " catch up ". I ride my own ride and always have.
I think you have a hard on for Yamaha and are taking it out on whoever is available. Please take me off the freaking list..

 

[motopan]

Jim, You presume so much. This is my 9th Yamaha motorcycle, I have no problem with the product, the dealer that gave us such a fair deal, the salesman that I had to show how to operate the bike, or the fact that it may cost another 1k to get it safe. Jim, it's the fact that I'm not the only new owner of a completely new design of powerful duel sport, adventure type bike, with rim & spoke problems. When the reply came back from Yam. Japan to Yam. Pan. City that, "there were not enough claims yet to admit to a design flaw by offering a re-call", we decided to hold out. Our bike has been flawless in every way. In fact, with the conditions we deal with here every day, I can't think of a better mount. We just want to have safe wheels when we depart for Cartagena Columbia, Quito Ecuador, Northern Argentina & Chile, then return to "the Canal" by Tramp Steamer, next year.
Anyway, it turns out we're on the same page about safe wheels.
Good riding, Motopan