Any body know who makes a plate for the rear rack?

[XtreemLee]

I need a plate to put my motofizz camping bag on.

 

[SisuTen]

Roger at Caribou Cases has one in development. Keep an eye on his website for news.

Yes I have a stake in this, he's using my bike for development.

However I'll get nothing beyond a discount on mine.

Paul

 

[ptfjjj]

Paul, I have both the luggage rack and the rear luggage rack from touratech. I don't need the pillion seat, so this works great for me carry my Pelican 1510 case. Link below. I also know that AltRider has an aluminum rear rack the Devin "SpeedStar" has on his bike.

http://www.touratech-usa.com/Store/3317/Yamaha-XT1200Z-Super-Tenere-Tank-Bags-Tail-Bags

http://www.altrider.com/altrider-luggage-rack-for-yamaha-super-tenere-xt1200z/pcid/625-1

 

[elizilla]

(raises hand)

I'm making one now. Waiting on the spacers and fasteners I ordered from McMaster-Carr last night. Planning to drill a bunch more holes. Some will be in patterns that will let me fasten it all the way forward when solo, and all the way back when carrying a passenger. And I will drill other holes to lighten it and create lash points. But here's what I have so far.

I have also ordered the rack from AltRider but it is backordered and I am leaving on a trip this weekend, so I need a rack NOW.

 

[dcstrom]

Nice job Katherine!

I wish one of the manufacturers would come up with something like this - currently all that's available is a rack for the rear, or a rack for the seat area. Or you can buy both - at around $130 (or more) a pop, no thanks. There's nothing I've seen like this that can be located forward or back.

To the OP - Hepco&Becker does a rear rack
http://supertenere1200.com/2011/07/03/hepco-becker-parts-for-the-super-tenere/

Jesse is coming out with one - no details yet except in the pics on the site - http://www.jesseluggage.com/yamaha.html

I really hope this is not the final version - seems like it's mounted ON TOP of the OEM rack at the back, and at the front look at the position of the leading edge. You would NOT want to be rear-ended with this rack fitted...

 

[elizilla]

Trevor, it seems like one could drill extra holes in a rack like that, and do whatever they liked to fasten it in different spots. And it would probably be easier than starting from scratch the way I am.

I definitely prefer to buy ready made farkles, rather than building my own from scratch. It takes me DAYS to create something like this, it costs me more $$ because of all the trial and error and buying more spacers and screws in different sizes and shapes and then deciding I need different ones, etc. And while my stuff may function fine, it ends up looking like a kindergartner's art project. Especially since I can't ever get the paint to come out decently and half the time I don't even bother to paint at all.

 

[SisuTen]

We had the entire rear structure of the bike apart today and will come up with a durable solution shortly.

For those of you fabbing something yourself, keep in mind that Yamaha recommends no more than an 11 Lb load on the existing rear rack. The stock parts "look" stout, but keep in mind that they are all made of plastic. Build for "overload" or you'll have heartaches out in the boonies some day.

Paul

 

[hANNAbONE]

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/5417/78/


http://cariboucases.com/store/?name=Catalog&mode=i&item=000092


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[elizilla]

I'm attaching it to the mount points that the current plastic stuff attaches to. There are metal standoffs with shoulders, under the fasteners, that go all the way through to the metal rail underneath, so that when you torque those bolts down they won't squish the plastic bits. I'm putting spacers on top of those standoffs and using longer M6 and M8 screws. The plastic will be purely decorative, not load bearing. I'm actually most concerned about the strength of skinny M6 bolts in these long lengths. Which is why I'm trying hard to figure out how to fasten it in as many spots as possible. Better to support it on four M6's and three M8's, than on just two of each.

 

[SisuTen]

Paul, I have both the luggage rack and the rear luggage rack from touratech. I don't need the pillion seat, so this works great for me carry my Pelican 1510 case. Link below. I also know that AltRider has an aluminum rear rack the Devin "SpeedStar" has on his bike.

Sounds like a good plan, Paul. Without a pillion, your rack system will be excellent for your use. I also like the Altrider solution, with a caveat. I think the support structure could have been a bit beefier, perhaps heavier material. Time will tell.

I think anyone who decides to design their own system should beef their rear racks to compensate for the weak plastic structure Yamaha uses. I haven't looked it up, but I seem to remember that Yamaha did a recall of sorts to reinforce the rear rack. I think there's a thread here dealing with it. My bike has the updated steel reinforcement. I still wish the structure was more substantial.

The more I get into the bike and disassemble parts of it, the more impressed I am with how it's been designed from the start to encourage aftermarket designs. Threaded mount points, some of which do absolutely nothing right now, are obviously intended to be used in development. These are all welded and not plastic bushing mounts (not saying who does that on their bikes). I'm impressed, and glad I bought this bike. It really is a two wheeled Jeep of sorts. It's gonna be fun.

Paul

 

[SisuTen]

(raises hand)

I'm making one now. Waiting on the spacers and fasteners I ordered from McMaster-Carr last night. Planning to drill a bunch more holes. Some will be in patterns that will let me fasten it all the way forward when solo, and all the way back when carrying a passenger. And I will drill other holes to lighten it and create lash points. But here's what I have so far.

I have also ordered the rack from AltRider but it is backordered and I am leaving on a trip this weekend, so I need a rack NOW.

Looks substantial, Katherine. What thickness aluminum is your plate? It appears to be 3/16, maybe thicker. That's good. In your forward position, you should not have any load issues. When you move it back, make sure you provide substantial mounts to the frame and add braces if you use the Yamaha substructure.

I agree regarding 6MM bolts. Seems a bit weak to me as well.

Vibration and flex is your enemy. Good work!

Oh Yeah, Loctite 242 all of your bolts and don't over-torque.

Paul

 

[SisuTen]

Jesse is coming out with one - no details yet except in the pics on the site - http://www.jesseluggage.com/yamaha.html

I really hope this is not the final version - seems like it's mounted ON TOP of the OEM rack at the back, and at the front look at the position of the leading edge. You would NOT want to be rear-ended with this rack fitted...

I agree, the plate would become a cleaver in a collision. A simple solution would be to bend the leading edge of the plate to about 45 degrees so it submarines on collision. Sometimes fabricators don't consider such things. Maybe someone should contact them ad give a diplomatic design suggestion.

Paul

 

[elizilla]

That is a 1/4" plate. I also had a 3/8" plate on the shelf but decided it was overkill. Since I had the AltRider rack on order I wasn't intending to roll my own, and then the AltRider rack was backordered. And now I don't really have time to order special materials - this is all stuff I had in the garage, left over from past projects. Here's a little series of photos I did the last time:

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/katherinebecker/NT700V/making_rack.jpg
http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/katherinebecker/NT700V/rack_back.jpg
http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/katherinebecker/NT700V/rack_forward.jpg
http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss35/katherinebecker/NT700V/topcase_forward.jpg

I'm not heavy enough or strong/agile enough, to be comfortable driving a bike two-up with a full load of camping stuff. So if I put the rack all the way back for a passenger, it's local use only and the topcase would be empty - it would just be on there for the passenger to lean on, and to stash helmets when we get to the (nearby) destination.

But I still want to make this work, because it would be cool. I will probably do my upcoming trips with just that rack, but I intend to make the rack work both farther forward and farther back, when I come home.

 

[elizilla]

So I got the minimum number of holes drilled, and got it attached to the bike with the real hardware, last night. Here's how it looks, currently:

I'm not happy with this placement. It might be good for weight distribution, but the case is too far back to serve as a backrest, while still so far forward that it makes it tough getting my leg over. I may drill a second set of holes tonight, to move it back about three inches. It could go back three inches and still attach to the same mount points. Moving forward enough to serve as a backrest, is more complex - maybe the next version will remain square, to give more room for mount points.

Also, I need to drag the E55 Maxia up to the garage and see how that looks on there. Too much is never enough, right?