Shinko 705: A cautionary tale
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RCinNC
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That was my experience with the Shinko also. I thought they handled really well, even though they did have that "falling into a turn" idiosyncrasy, I usually got 8000-9000 out of a front, though by the end of their lifespan they were cupped in a really odd way and got pretty lumpy and noisy. And back when a rear was like 120 bucks, I had no issues with swapping them out at a relatively low mileage, mainly because I wasn't getting stellar mileage out of the way more expensive tires. I'd hear stories from guys that got 9 or 10 thousand miles out of a rear Anakee or a Battlewing, and I'd shake my head because I'd be getting 5000 or maybe less. Since I had to change the rear just as often with a high dollar tire as a cheap one, and the cheap tire's handling was fine for me, the 705's made a lot of sense. The only rear tire I've ever gotten longevity from is the Mitas E07; I put it on in June of last year, and it has 6000 miles on it now and is still going strong. The previous time I had a rear E07 installed, it lasted for 9800 miles.
After a 10 year history with Shinkos, this was very disappointing.
cyclemike4
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The Shinko's that I have ran would start slowing the wear as they got that flat spot and I was able to get a lot of miles out of them after that. I could usually get 8000 out of the rear and one front I ran for 14000 miles but it cupped so bad and was so loud and bad handling I should have thrown it away at 6000.
How much mileage in total do you have on them?It's not an issue per se, but I was shocked at how quickly they burned down on a recent 1200-mile ride. I think I lost over 50% of the tread depth on the rear. I was loaded up and hauling ass, averaging between 80-90mph the whole way, but it was relatively cool outside, so I was expecting much better longevity.
I am now nearing the tread bars with another 1000 miles to go before I get home and worrying about if I have enough rear tire to make it back to Denver. It doesn't help that this is what I will be riding into on Friday.
I also bought my Tenere used and it came with the 708s. They lasted another 13000 km / 8000 miles before I swapped them. Weekend riding and commuting, no super heavy loads.
No idea. They were on the bike when I bought it in November. Since then I have put 2600 miles on the ST.
To be far, I was hammering on them. I might have averaged a low of 28mpg on one of the fillups from being WOT most of the time ridding off-road.
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That might've made the difference. I didn't take the big pig on dirt, have other bikes for that.
scott123007
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@twinrider What are these Shinko 708's you speak of?
whisperquiet
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They are the new Shinko 705+3 tires that were just inroduced.
Cool. Last night, 40 miles south of Amarillo, my bike developed a crazy wobble. When I pulled over, I found a huge bulge in the tread on my rear 705. Two hours later, I limped into town and found a hotel. This morning when I checked, it was completely flat. I cannot find the leak, but I'm hoping it's slow enough that if I can find a new rear tire in town, I can crawl to the dealership and install it. Otherwise, I guess it's uHaul time?
They are funny tires. Some people have used lots of them with no issues and others have had multiple failures.
I had a couple non radial rears delaminate near end of tread life years ago. Fronts were always great. Big mileage no issues except for getting very loud as they cupped when the mileage on them started getting up there.
I had a couple non radial rears delaminate near end of tread life years ago. Fronts were always great. Big mileage no issues except for getting very loud as they cupped when the mileage on them started getting up there.
Cycledude
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That’s exactly why I won’t even consider ever buying a Shinko tire for any motorcycle I own, way to many failure stories out there. Those cheap tires way too often wind up costing big money.
tntmo
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No dealer/shop in town has a 17" rear tire that would fit? Sorry that you had the troubles, sometimes it goes that way.Welp, no tires are available anywhere locally. Uhaul is sold out, so I rented a $600 Penske truck to get home
Madhatter
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that looks like cord failure ... scary bad.
How many miles on that tire? It looks like it's almost at the wear bars. When I had similar failures, the tires I was using had roughly the same amount of tread or a little less left.
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That sucks, BTDT on a trip for mechanical reasons. Hard to believe you couldn't find a tire on a Friday in Amarillo! Do you carry the tools to remove your wheels?Welp, no tires are available anywhere locally. Uhaul is sold out, so I rented a $600 Penske truck to get home
I don't know the mileage because the tires came on the bike when I bought it, but I would guess it's around 3k miles total.
Yeah, I was really surprised I couldn't find a replacement. All the shops I called were super helpful, but they all commented that "they should think about carrying more tires for ADV's in the future."
It's a funny story about the tools. I thought I had everything to pull either wheel, but I realized that my axle hex tool was sitting on my workbench in my garage and never made it into the tool kits when I left.
Yeah, I was really surprised I couldn't find a replacement. All the shops I called were super helpful, but they all commented that "they should think about carrying more tires for ADV's in the future."
It's a funny story about the tools. I thought I had everything to pull either wheel, but I realized that my axle hex tool was sitting on my workbench in my garage and never made it into the tool kits when I left.