Trade fjr for tenere

My local dealer has a used 2014 tenere, 14k miles and wants retail price for it. I offered my 14 fjr with 42k miles for trade plus $1k. They said no, 2 months later they called and said they will take my offer if I buy it by the end of the year. I used my fjr to travel cross country 3 times. I would like to have the tenere to be able to ride some offroad trails out west and what have you but mainly for long distance. I have a 690 enduro for more serious offroad stuff. Anything to look for with the tenere? Opinions?

s.ga.rider said:

My local dealer has a used 2014 tenere, 14k miles and wants retail price for it. I offered my 14 fjr with 42k miles for trade plus $1k. They said no, 2 months later they called and said they will take my offer if I buy it by the end of the year. I used my fjr to travel cross country 3 times. I would like to have the tenere to be able to ride some offroad trails out west and what have you but mainly for long distance. I have a 690 enduro for more serious offroad stuff. Anything to look for with the tenere? Opinions?

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I've never had a run on an FJR.
I do have a 2018 ES Super Tenere with 22,00 km in my first season.
I was thinking about trading my Ten for the FJR.
Not so fast, I say...the FJR is much faster than the Ten. But, the Ten in my opinion is a more versatile, slightly lighter machine still with plenty of power.
Choosing the right ride is difficult thing. It all depends on what you plan to do with the bike.
For me the Ten is just too big and heavy for off roading. It's great on gravel roads, along with being a highway cruiser.
Does this 2014 Tenere have cruise control, heated grips??
SHUMBA

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It does and thats what I was wanting it for. Highway, gravel, forest roads, etc. I was actually surprised by the power of the tenere. More than I expected. Best hing about it is even with handlebar risers and foot peg lower brackets on the fjr, the tenere had a good bit mor room and was more comfortable. The fjr is an amazing bike, good power and the inline 4 purs like a kitten all day at 85mph. But comfort isnt the best when compared to an adv bike and it doesnt like off road at all.

I miss my FJR’s. Had an 05 and a 13.
Strangely I liked the 05 better and would like to find a slick one in the future......keeping the ST.

I am on my 3rd FJR and also have a 2016 Supertenere ZE and Tracer GT..

In January I am trading the Tracer GT and the Supertenere for a new (2019) blue FJR and a T7 for trailing and local trips.

I would say that the S10 makes a great tourer, especially 2 up, more roomy than the FJR and lighter as you say.

However, I much prefer the creamy turbine engine on the FJR compared with the agricultural S10. I am actually amazed that Yamaha could make a 'new' engine in 2010 that is so clattery and did not provide for Euro 5 either, at least the FJR motor is a 20 years old design.

From 2021 Yamaha will not have any shaft drive bikes for sale in the EU.

The Tracer GT is light, quick and fantastic fun to ride but is not in the same league for proper touring as the FJR or S10.

Welcome aboard -

I had Gen1 and then Gen2 FJRs and since have had Gen1 and then Gen2 Teneres. I loved the engine in the Feejers and the sharper handling in the Gen1 bike before they stretched the swing arm. Like the looks more than the Tenere too.

But there's a reason I moved to the Tenere, bought a second (also a 2014), and have no plans to go back. The FJR was the big heavy American Corvette while the Tenere is a Toyota LandCruiser that you can do most anything with. With the upright seating and cruise control I find it easier to do long distances than on the FJR and the FJR excelled at that. I hope to do another Alaska trip next summer and will be going places I'd not want to take the FJR. This was local but you get the idea.


As for the value of the trade, sorry but I've been out of the market so long I can't help you. I'd hit up Craigslist for the surrounding areas to get an idea of the relative values.

Checkswrecks said:

The FJR was the big heavy American Corvette while the Tenere is a Toyota LandCruiser that you can do most anything with.

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IMHO a FJR is more like a Lexus LS430.

Keep the FJR, and buy a Super Tenere.

Anything to look for in a Tenere? Nope. You're getting the incremental improvements to engine and cruise with the '14. Price wise, I think you're taking a slight hit on your FJRs value, on the other hand, you're gaining almost 30K miles in the deal. I would strip the FJR and give it to the dealer box stock. Sell any accessories to free up some $$$ for Tenere farkles.

I'm on my 4th FJR and will likely always have one in the garage. I call the FJR my ICBM and use it when I want to get from point A to B with out any stress. The FJR might even take me to Cali this weekend for last ride of the year. Nothing wrong with the Tenere, I've got my eye on a new '18 to upgrade my '12. Waiting for the dealer to get hungry over the winter and try to make a deal!

~G

escapefjrtist said:

Anything to look for in a Tenere? Nope. You're getting the incremental improvements to engine and cruise with the '14. Price wise, I think you're taking a slight hit on your FJRs value, on the other hand, you're gaining almost 30K miles in the deal. I would strip the FJR and give it to the dealer box stock. Sell any accessories to free up some $$$ for Tenere farkles.

I'm on my 4th FJR and will likely always have one in the garage. I call the FJR my ICBM and use it when I want to get from point A to B with out any stress. The FJR might even take me to Cali this weekend for last ride of the year. Nothing wrong with the Tenere, I've got my eye on a new '18 to upgrade my '12. Waiting for the dealer to get hungry over the winter and try to make a deal!

~G

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Forgot to mention, I'm in Ontario Canada.
It costs the same amount to insure bike 2, 3, or more.
By this I mean, bike 1 = $1,000
Bike 2 = another $1,000.
Total rip off.
So, I'll stick with my "swiss army knife" the Tenere.
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They want it out of their inventory before Jan. 1 2020. Check what your tax consequences will be. I'm in Kentucky and if I did this trade I would already owe 2019 property taxes on the FJR, have to pay sales tax on the S10 and then owe property taxes on the S10 again on Jan. 1st. If I waited until after Jan. 1st to trade I wouldn't owe property taxes until 2021.

The FJ/FJR & the T-12 are my two favorite bikes. As mentioned many times, the versatility and comfort of the T-12, makes it my favorite bike....ever. I still have the FJ, for 33 years, and my son now has the FJR. For apples to apples, ES to ES, the T-12's suspension is much better on crappy roads; and of course, no roads. I'm with Ron....if your budget allows....keep the FJR, and add the Tenere. MY recommendation would be for the Tenere in ES trim. Good luck.

The wife wouldn’t go for 3 bikes in the garage. The 690 enduro isn’t going anywhere. The tenere is more comfortable but I enjoy the handling of the fjr in the twisties. The tenere has the same heavy steering to it that the fjr did. Surprisingly similar. Seems it would be intimidating in the dirt, sand and mud anyway. resale on the fjr is terrible. I see tenere a selling for more than similar fjrs and I’ve never actually seen a tenere anywhere around in the south. I seriously considered the Africa twin but prefer the tubeless tire and the shaft drive of the tenere. My main concern is reliability. I’ve read a lot on hard and no start issues

Africa Twin has been upgraded, it’s now available with tubeless tires and cruise control. Unfortunately the serious hard start issue with the Tenere has mostly been simply ignored by Yamaha.

Hard and no start issues went away with the Gen2 bikes of 2014 and later.

The new Africa twin seems really nice but I wasn’t looking to pay that much. If I trade for the tenere I will be able to pay cash for the difference and not finance anything. I have read about hard starts on newer bikes too. The tenere I’m looking at has a touring screen and yoshi pipe. Otherwise stock I believe.

I totally agree that the FJR has heavy slow speed steering. But, if the Tenere you rode had heavy steering, check the tire pressure. I think almost everybody here will agree, that once she's rolling, she feels at least 100lbs lighter. And, the Tenere is hard to beat when the road starts to get wiggly. As far as starting, I learned to let her go through the little diagnostic test that happens when you turn the ignition on.

I think most of the hard/no start, high idle issues with the Gen 1, pretty much went away with the recall. Like what was said, not a issue with the Gen 2, and even with the Gen 1, was not a widespread issue. The only time I had that issue with my Gen 1, it was self induced one time, and I have done everything they say would cause a problem a whole bunch of other times with no problems.

You also may be surprised at how quick the S10 is in corners.

There was a discussion a year or two about back the hard start being tied into a weak battery. If the battery is weak the starter pulls all the voltage away from the system and screws with the ECU. I Started having problems with hard starting and then very erratic idling after it started, but I'm a year and a half into a 300 cca Lithium battery and haven't had any problems since I put it in.

s.ga.rider said:

The new Africa twin seems really nice but I wasn’t looking to pay that much. If I trade for the tenere I will be able to pay cash for the difference and not finance anything. I have read about hard starts on newer bikes too. The tenere I’m looking at has a touring screen and yoshi pipe. Otherwise stock I believe.

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I had a 2016 clutch Africa Twin....30,000 km in two seasons up here in Ontario, Canada.
I love this bike. Just wanted something different, so I chose the Tenere. So far, 22,000 km this season. I wanted a shaft drive, a centre stand, heated grips and the Tenere fills all of these things.

Now, here's my 2 cents worth:
Longer trips, more comfortable, no chain to clean and lube daily, or that's what I did. = buy a Super Tenere.

Some highway, some trips, but better handling du to 21 inch front tyre and somewhat lighter 575 lbs vs. 525 lbs. Better for gravel and off road. = Africa Twin

Performance wise, the Tenere is marginally faster with 86 lb ft of torque vs. the Africa Twin with 74 lb ft of torque.
Top speed on the Africa Twin = 193 kilometres/hour.
Top speed on the Tenere = 206 kilometres/hr.
Comments please, cause I know y'all are gonna disagree.
SHUMBA

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