It was early 70’s for me. A bit of info...
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How misinformation has slowly help kill the 1200XTZ
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Longdog Cymru
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Looks to me as though the rear wheel might be an 18” wheel too, which would be the smart way to do things, but it doesn’t look like a stock Tenere rim to me at least.
RCinNC
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I loved Big Wheels as a kid. Sadly, I was a portly lad, and exceeded the weight limit on one. And since the weight distribution on them placed almost all the weight over the non drive wheels, all of my attempts to ride one resulted in one very disappointed chubby kid doing prolonged stationary front wheel burnouts.
Good eye. I would agree.
You made me laugh! What about one foot on and the other pushing? We played bumper big wheels that way.
They made them from 69 to 81. I never owned one as no way could we afford something like that on a teachers salary. 3 sisters had braces and my dad bought a CB750 when I was the perfect age for one and then he graduated to buying Goldwings about every 4 years until 84. He kept that one until he died in 2018. So I had to ride my friends and I grew fast and got to big by 2nd or 3rd grade.
That explains it. I was 6 when they started, and onto bicycles. We moved out into the country, Temperance MI, a couple years later, and there was no pavement around.
Donk
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Say what you want the S10 soldiers on. Yamaha doesn't need to promote it, they sell out of however many or few they produce. Kind of like a can opener or a wheel barrow why waste money on advertising? S10 is not perfect and its a bit dated but no motorcycle is perfect and the newest bikes always seem to have issues to be sorted out. Especially BMWs! Yes I said that, I'll apologize now to any of our brethren that have gone that way. If Yamaha thought there was more of a market for big Adventure bikes I'm sure they'd redesign or update the S10 but I don't think they see the need. LongHaulPaul has been pounding the Interstates successfully for a couple of years on a T7 so it's certainly doable. Me I'm doing fine piling miles on the 890 Adventure. Sure if Yamaha came out with a new bigger Adventure bike I'd consider it because I really liked my S10. Heck I have nothing against owning another S10 again just as they are.
Cycledude
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I would be very interested in 600-700 cc adventure bike with shaft drive , cruise control, decent headlights, decent sized gas tank located under the seat so it wasn’t so top heavy and a lower seat height.
The 1200 Tenere is a very nice adventure bike but as im aging it is getting to be to tall and heavy for me.
The 1200 Tenere is a very nice adventure bike but as im aging it is getting to be to tall and heavy for me.
Silver Badger
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I'm 5'7" 150# and I have no intention of taking Big Daddy any further off pavement than a maintained gravel road. I do intend to put a pantload of much more comfortable miles on him in the coming years because it runs and holds the road like a Kenworth. And I'm tired of getting my ass handed to me in a cross wind.
Ossaboy2867
Active Member
I have taken a few years off from this platform due to job changes and "life". It is interesting the following this bike has had since the site's inception. I was interested in the ST10 back when I had heard they were going to release it (2009-2010). I bought my 2012 and thought "man this bike can do everything good, but not one thing great". It literally is the perfect bike. I started modifying it after the news we were not going to receive the world crosser variant they had in Europe so I started to build my own version. I was surprised to see all the bad publicity the bike was getting from every angle, the biggest complaint was the weight, ground clearance, and people smashing the underside of the bike. I still have several magazine shootouts saved where the Tenere lost every time to BMW, Honda, and KTM. I later found out through my network that most of the bad publicity was intentional as other manufacturers who "donate $$" to those publications truly saw the bike as a threat. I also have seen the rise and fall of aftermarket companies building parts for this bike only to let that category dry up making the rugged aftermarket parts almost non existent for hardcore riders of these machines. And to make matters worse, that group of hardcore folks who do take this further than just a gravel road got super small when they released the 700.
There is another point of view too…The EURO only meant that the manufacturers had to adjust the engines. The new EURO rules complicate things even more. But manufacturing an engine “within” the zone that “sets” the rules is not the same as wanting to enter an engine manufactured “outside” the zone that sets the rules… Engines manufactured “within” the zone They have a period of time to meet the demands…engines manufactured abroad, if they want to enter the zone “must meet the current demands”…it is a protection measure for the EURO zone…and to that we must add that the Chinese They are the owners of the vast majority of European engine factories… I think Yamaha didn't like that they were sticking their fingers up their ass (also proof of this is that they discontinued the R1 as well)….
The ST is the most underrated ADV out right now. I exhaustively searched for a new ADV bike
And wasn’t happy with the all the new bike options with shaft drive because of weight and technology. I test rode the new tiger 1200 and the ST a few weeks apart and everything liked about the tiger then ST also had but it’s a much simpler bike and IMO feels lighter with more fuel to boot.
And wasn’t happy with the all the new bike options with shaft drive because of weight and technology. I test rode the new tiger 1200 and the ST a few weeks apart and everything liked about the tiger then ST also had but it’s a much simpler bike and IMO feels lighter with more fuel to boot.
Donk
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You would think if Yamaha wanted to it could build a 1200cc engine that has similar architecture to their 700 and plug into an S10 with very little effort. No one has ever said a bad word about the 700 engine and it will take an abusing. American Flat Track and MotoAmerica run them punched out to 800cc without a problem. Don't get me wrong the S10 is great in the same way the FJR is, wheel barrow reliability, enough tech without being overloaded with it, easy and inexpensive to maintain and fairly priced. Just no reason Yamaha couldn't keep it in the ballgame a little longer if it wanted to.
I've been saying that the MT-10 motor would fit the bill. I've predicted Yamaha using it for a while now. So far, I've been wrong.
Patience Grasshopper!
Longdog Cymru
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I think, that if Yamaha do decide to build an adventure/tourer bigger than 700cc then it will be built around what is hailed as probably the best motorcycle engine ever, the 3 cylinder 890cc CP3. It is an amazing motor but I cant see it having a shaft drive.