Yamaha Heated Grips???

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I use the gerbing's heated gloves for 2 years now and thy are doing very well. They are absolutely waterproof except when water comes in through the cuffs. But you can avoid it by strap them very well.
One thing to mention also is that they give a lifetime warranty on the electrical part. So if they don't heat any more, just go to your shop en change them. Had to do it already once ant they changed them without any questions. I use them in combination with their heated under-vest. You lose the insulation of your normal vest and wear this under it, plug the gloves into the vest and relax in the heat. It is all connected to the motors battery.
 

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Evening,

I have been doing some research on the gerbing gloves and jacket liner, currently I only run heated grips. My questions is that if I move to getting some gerbing T5 gloves do you think I could get away without heated grips.

Whats you thoughts? Just thinking hand guards and heated gloves is this enough?
 

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MortiisMachine said:
Evening,

I have been doing some research on the gerbing gloves and jacket liner, currently I only run heated grips. My questions is that if I move to getting some gerbing T5 gloves do you think I could get away without heated grips.

Whats you thoughts? Just thinking hand guards and heated gloves is this enough?
In my experience, no heated grips alleviate the need for good winter gloves (either electric or very well-insulated) once it gets really cold (say, below 40 F or so). You simply can't pump enough BTU's into the grips to overcome the considerable heat losses and keep your hands warm. If you could, you'd have one side of your hand frozen and the other blistered.

Heated grips are more of a "shoulder season" thing or something to allow you to run summer gloves in coolish weather. For this, they're wonderful and they have none of the hookup hassles of electric gloves. But they're not the complete solution for really cold weather... in fact, once it gets really cold, the gloves you need to keep you entire hands warm starts insulating you from the heat in the grips. The colder it gets, the more the burden of keeping your hands warm has to shift to the gloves. So if you can have only one or the other, I'd start with the gloves.

I don't view heated grips and heated/winter gloves to be an either/or choice. Each is really good for certain situations. Just because you have a good winter coat doesn't mean you don't want a furnace for your house, or vice versa.

- Mark
 

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MortiisMachine said:
Evening,

I have been doing some research on the gerbing gloves and jacket liner, currently I only run heated grips. My questions is that if I move to getting some gerbing T5 gloves do you think I could get away without heated grips.

Whats you thoughts? Just thinking hand guards and heated gloves is this enough?
I use the T5 gloves in combination with the jacked liner and for the moment that does everything is should do. Keeping me comfortably warm.
 

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titsken said:
MortiisMachine said:
Evening,

I have been doing some research on the gerbing gloves and jacket liner, currently I only run heated grips. My questions is that if I move to getting some gerbing T5 gloves do you think I could get away without heated grips.

Whats you thoughts? Just thinking hand guards and heated gloves is this enough?
I use the T5 gloves in combination with the jacked liner and for the moment that does everything is should do. Keeping me comfortably warm.

I think a pair of the T5's will be on my Christmas wish list this year! ;)
 

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I've had really good luck with polly heaters in steel bars. Does anyone know if S10 bars are steel or alum?
Hi and welcome to the forum, someone like Swagger would probably be able to anwser this question as he has the bike, keep ya eye in the post or drop him a PM.
They are steel fat bars.
 

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MortiisMachine said:
... My questions is that if I move to getting some gerbing T5 gloves do you think I could get away without heated grips.

Whats you thoughts? Just thinking hand guards and heated gloves is this enough?
Right this is all down to preference. Gerbings have two heat settings. On low they're fine down to -1 plus the wind chill factor. On high they're good down to ~ -6 plus wcf. BTW they reckon wcf reduces the temp by -7 to -10. I wear liners inside mine cos the high setting can burn your hands ... there is a rogue element in mine on the right thumb and it can get bloody uncomfortable. The handguards really do help with the wcf. That said I run mine generally on low with the heated grips set to low. Have to keep my trigger finger warm at all times ;)
 

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Swagger said:
MortiisMachine said:
S_Palmer said:
I've had really good luck with polly heaters in steel bars. Does anyone know if S10 bars are steel or alum?
Hi and welcome to the forum, someone like Swagger would probably be able to anwser this question as he has the bike, keep ya eye in the post or drop him a PM.
They are steel fat bars.
You ask and the mighty oracle shall answer.... ;)
 

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Swagger said:
MortiisMachine said:
... My questions is that if I move to getting some gerbing T5 gloves do you think I could get away without heated grips.

Whats you thoughts? Just thinking hand guards and heated gloves is this enough?
Right this is all down to preference. Gerbings have two heat settings. On low they're fine down to -1 plus the wind chill factor. On high they're good down to ~ -6 plus wcf. BTW they reckon wcf reduces the temp by -7 to -10. I wear liners inside mine cos the high setting can burn your hands ... there is a rogue element in mine on the right thumb and it can get bloody uncomfortable. The handguards really do help with the wcf. That said I run mine generally on low with the heated grips set to low. Have to keep my trigger finger warm at all times ;)
Cheers Swagger, I think I will start with the gloves and see how I go, can always add the grips easy enough. Do you have the new style gloves with the microwire technology as opposed to the old style copper wires, also if you have T5's do you fine them quite flexible, had some winter gloves before and could barely move in the dam things, way to restrictive.
 

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Steel bars are much MUCH better for heated grips - alum fatbars have almost 8x the thermal conductivity of steel bars making it very difficult to get heated grips to perform very well with alum bars.

- Mark
 

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MortiisMachine said:
Swagger said:
MortiisMachine said:
S_Palmer said:
I've had really good luck with polly heaters in steel bars. Does anyone know if S10 bars are steel or alum?
Hi and welcome to the forum, someone like Swagger would probably be able to anwser this question as he has the bike, keep ya eye in the post or drop him a PM.
They are steel fat bars.
You ask and the mighty oracle shall answer.... ;)
Thanks guys
 

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MortiisMachine said:
.... Do you have the new style gloves with the microwire technology as opposed to the old style copper wires, also if you have T5's do you fine them quite flexible, had some winter gloves before and could barely move in the dam things, way to restrictive.
I have the T5's. They are incredibly supple. Mostly leather, a hard wearing plasticised palm, and waterproof fabric gauntlet at the wrist. Really good product .... except for the rogue element on the thumb. Maybe I'm a little delicate :eek: Oh yeah! as you have worked out by now ... I'm also a bit fastidious about my kit. I clean everything that I've worn every evening. Lid, boots etc. Those gloves get wiped over daily and treated with leather feed weekly.
 

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I like heated grips, and have the Gerbing G3 heated gloves, which have been great on my ST 1300 and F 800 GS. On longer rides in heavy rain though, the G3 gloves tend to soak through, despite TONS of waterproofing treatment, and once it gets really cold (single digits) the G3s can't pump out enough heat to make up for the wind. For the S10, I'm thinking of getting some bar mitts -

http://www.hippohands.com/index.htm
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/9/47/551/26198/ITEM/Parts-Unlimited-Deluxe-Snow-Paws.aspx?sst=RR|26198
http://www.mredsmoto.com/productdetail.htm?productId=8232413

Anyone have experience with these?

Thanks,

Chris
 

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sail2xxs said:
..... I'm thinking of getting some bar mitts ....
There is another option .... Tocano Urbano produce some smaller muffs. They're made of neoprene and so will saturate over time but they look so much better .... not the shark face one or the lairy black n white strpped one either .... i'm gonna get some hopefully at the bike show in the week.
 

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sail2xxs said:
..... I'm thinking of getting some bar mitts - Anyone have experience with these? ...
Chris,

I had a set of hippo hands on my FZ1. I had to make a couple brackets to keep them from pushing back against the levers while riding. I had no issue with getting my hands in and out of the openings. I could commute back and forth to work (20 or 30 minutes) with my touring leather gloves and the hippo hands. I never tried them in the rain so can't vouch for how well they would keep water out.

I've been thinking about a pair for the ST. Just don't know if they would fit over the handlebar guards. Have been thinking of contacting the guy (he's based in Canada) and asking him about it.

Bob
 

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I agree with RonH regarding using a Gerbing or Warm and Safe controller. They are small and work great. Note that these are not rheostat controllers, which waster juice. They are pulse width modulators. When you have them at 100%, full power flows full time. As you dial it down, the controller pulses between 100% power and 0% power in ever decreasing time pulses as you dial towards 0. Very efficient. And those controllers are very small and can be mounted out of the way. That Yamaha controller is HUGE and takes up way more room than needed.

I have had bikes with heated grips and they just don't cut it in cold weather. They are nice because they are always there. You don't have to remember to bring them with like gloves. But as others have said, they just can't keep your hand warm like a heated glove when the weather turns cold. I have the Firstgear carbon glove (firstgear rebrands the Warm and Safe line of heated hear) and have been very happy with them. Last winter, I road the 30 minute commute to work daily down to about 15 degrees F. before the snow and ice storms stopped me. I was totally comfortable. That was without hand guards to block the wind. Heated grips can't compare, but they would make a nice supplement...only if the pricepoint is reasonable. If you don't have heated gloves, I recommend you spend the money on them and a heated liner before heated grips. A warm core will let your body continue to keep your limbs warm. A cold core cuts circulation to your limbs since your core and brain are you bodies priority. Note that if you get both heated gloves and a liner, you'll want a dual-controller so you can control them separately. I often run the gloves on 100% but usually only run the liner at 40% and occasionally up to 60%.
 
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