WTF ! Cost of genuine pads

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Have been looking at prices for pads. Only want Organic not sintered. EBC only do the rear pads in organic. Yamaha want £57.80 per caliper !. I cant believe they cost that much. Any proven alternatives from UK owners ?.
I have looked at the list on the forum which is fantastic and well done that man ! . However would like to hear about what people use. Thanks for any reply.
 

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FUNNY ENOUGH,

i only use yamaha ones and yes £120 for the 2 sets, but on ebay i had 2 yamaha front sets last month for £70 my brakes just been done all round i put the EBC oraganic in the rear as my rear caliper needed a new piston and seal kit i went through 2 sets of rear yamaha pads in 24000 miles

my breaks just been done i have seen the yamaha ones on ebay for £75 2 sets of fronts

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yer heard alot about the ebc non organic ones, wearing the discs earlier than normal. but just what i,ve seen some guys saying,

luckly the 2 yamaha front sets the most i,ve paid on ebay is £75 from guys that bought and sold bikes before fitting them

rob
 

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Hi Rob thanks for the reply. Is there any chance you could put a link up for those pads please. Also how many miles did you do before the rear caliper needed seal replacement ?.
I already ordered the EBC for the rear.
 

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yer heard alot about the ebc non organic ones, wearing the discs earlier than normal. but just what i,ve seen some guys saying,

luckly the 2 yamaha front sets the most i,ve paid on ebay is £75 from guys that bought and sold bikes before fitting them

rob
Yeah am not a fan of sintered pads unless i had a sports bike. I would rather have feel at normal speeds than outright stopping power.
 

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i just looked on ebay no yamaha ones there at the mo. my front yamaha ones did 26000 mls, just replaced them, my rear ones first set lasted 12000 miles, replaced with yamaha again but the second set did 11000 miles only my rear caliper was corroded badly could not cleaned it up
so it had a new piston and seal kit genuine yamaha one, and i put ebc organic pads in rear to try something else.this was all last week.

i was lucky with the front pads twice i new they were £120 and both times i needed them i looked on ebay and a guy had 2 sets for £70 odd quid snapped them up.

but at the mo theres no cheap ones on there

rob
 

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my rear caliper was shot, at 24000 miles needed a new piston seal kit, i,ve not seen anybody else do this so with the crap weather uk, i was just unlucky, most can cleaned the piston up go a again mine was bad

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my rear caliper was shot, at 24000 miles needed a new piston seal kit, i,ve not seen anybody else do this so with the crap weather uk, i was just unlucky, most can cleaned the piston up go a again mine was bad

rob
Intended to have the caliper off and give the piston a good clean anyway. Thanks for reply's Rob.
 

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my rear caliper was shot, at 24000 miles needed a new piston seal kit, i,ve not seen anybody else do this so with the crap weather uk, i was just unlucky, most can cleaned the piston up go a again mine was bad

rob
The rear discs go quick on these bikes, as discussed in previous threads, and discs are considered to be a consumable item.
 

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my rears the same 12000, my fronts still had a bit on them at 24500 miles but as the front calipers were off for clean up i put new in.

going to see how these rear ebc organics last in rear compared to yamaha

rob
 

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my rears the same 12000, my fronts still had a bit on them at 24500 miles but as the front calipers were off for clean up i put new in.

going to see how these rear ebc organics last in rear compared to yamaha

rob
same mileage for mine. I went with the EBC organic pads too. I prefer the pads to wear out rather than the discs as they are quicker, easier and cheaper to replace. I know discs are wear items too, but so is the rest of the drive train to a greater or lesser degree! If I get to choose my battles I prefer replacing pads rather than discs.
 

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same mileage for mine. I went with the EBC organic pads too. I prefer the pads to wear out rather than the discs as they are quicker, easier and cheaper to replace. I know discs are wear items too, but so is the rest of the drive train to a greater or lesser degree! If I get to choose my battles I prefer replacing pads rather than discs.
I used to burn through rear pads at 5,000mls on my 800 Tiger which is amazing as its the worst rear brake ever. At least the S10 rear works well enough and because of the linked brakes gets used.
 

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5000 miles works out at 5 years of use at my current rate! Still, it's a bit crap compared to most bikes. I completely agree about the s10 rear brake though, it's one of the best I've had on a bike.
 
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I'll be inspecting my brakes today during the full required service schedule . Most of my 5,000+ miles has been in local canyons and mountains. I am also very hard on them when testing stopping distance on each ride. I know it sounds kind of lame, but I feel it's very important to test the panic stopping distance often before I have to use it in a real situation.

What is a mind blower is the wear limit. Yamaha has replacement recommended at .8mm. There is no way in hell I'm going to let my pads get that worn. I recommend changing them out at about 50% wear. My reason is because the thinner the pad gets the hotter the pads/brake fluid gets. That in turn leads to increased stopping distance.

I'm still on the fence as to what brake pads I will be getting to replace the worn ones. On my street bikes and Honda dirt bikes I always replaced with OEM. On my European dirt bikes I used organic for trail riding and full blown sintered pads for dual sport and desert racing.

I'm not sure on the Super Tenere? Either the HH EBC or OEM. No way on the organic as those pads are simply not safe to slow down this big of a beast.

My future plan is to replace, rotors, pads, fluid and brake lines in one shot. Hopefully after the rotors are worn past the service limit or the brake lines are swelling.

My bike has been setting a lot so I may go over the 4 year required brake line replacement. I have to admit I am very nervous to have rubber brake lines over 4 years old. Every single Japanese bike I have owned since the 90's has got steel braided lines within the first few seasons of ownership.

I'll go out there today and measure the line diameter coming out of the calipers. That is normally the first part of the brake line that swells. I kick myself in the butt for missing that measurement when I got the bike new. Oh well, I'll measure brake line diameter in a few spots. As long as it stays consistent then I figure I'm pretty safe.
 
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I understand that it references a Honda, but it was more to show comparative wear from one brand to an other. If need be, I can delete it.
I think it's good to compare and realize that brakes are a very important part of our machines. I'm really curious as to what my brake wear is going to be during my service over the next few weeks. I am reading strange threads/posts where the rear pads wear first and the inner pads of the right front caliper wear down quicker than the outer one. I'll make sure to document all the measurements and post them up to compare to others.
 
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