Will you take the vaccine

will you take the vaccine

  • yes

    Votes: 91 37.0%
  • no

    Votes: 24 9.8%
  • maybe later

    Votes: 21 8.5%
  • heck no

    Votes: 30 12.2%
  • BTDT - Got the shot

    Votes: 80 32.5%

  • Total voters
    246
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WJBertrand

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The infection itself, whether symptomatic or not, will be far more invasive than a strand of mRNA. If you get the infection, the virus will commander your cells to make the spike protein anyway, using the same ribosomal protein synthesis pathway as the vaccine. In addition to spike protein mRNA, it will make other proteins and genomic RNA (covid is an RNA virus) in order to produce millions of new virus particles. mRNA never enters the nucleus of the cell so cannot alter the genetic information of the host cell. The virus kills the cell when it’s finish making millions of new viruses.


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MattR

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At the moment I am on the fence. 10 weeks ago my sister and brother-in-law, (75 & 77) were both diagnosed with covid. My brother-in-law was being treated for prostate cancer with 13 years and his life expectancy was before he was positive for covid, being measured in terms of QUOTE]

I don’t see why you’re on the fence. With experience like that I would have thought you’d jump at the chance to get vaccinated?


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ballisticexchris

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I’m not going to be vaccinated. I’ll take the chances of catching it.
And spreading it to others. This kind of thinking is why COVID is out of control.

Why would you not use preventative medication? If not for yourself, then how about your loved ones and others who are at risk of dying because of a selfish and deadly decision?
 

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Where’s the line, I’m there.


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I am right behind you in that line. With funerals I am unable to attend, this is way to personal to me.

For me it is a "no brainer" by the end of the month I expect 3,500 people per day will die from Covid in the U.S.. Compare that to how many we have lost in wars and natural disasters and then remember it will be happening EVERY DAY. Properly vetted vaccine? Much lower risk

A few years ago, my wife and I were involved in a project cleaning up abandoned church yards in rural South East Minnesota. Lots of history lessons on the head stones. One of the most sobering was seeing families from 1917-20 buried together with the same or close dates of death

One of the Church Yards has the family in this photo. Emma and 6 of the children died in one week in February 1920

As a nation, we in the U.S. obviously forgot the lesson history had to teach us 100 years ago1607188340129.png
and have handled this very poorly. Along with taking all of the interim precautions we have been told we need to, getting vaccinated is a start to addressing our mistakes

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I have my doubts that Trump was infected with the Covid virus. He has been credited for 20,000 false and misleading claims. Why would anyone believe that an old, overweight and out of shape person could kick Covid in just 4 days.
My thoughts exactly, 20,000 and counting. When Dr. Fauci and the medical community give their OK, I will get the vaccine ASAP.
 

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If you take the vaccine and are so sure of its validity WTF do you care if others don’t? When you start talk about mandatory vaccinations it becomes a slippery slope. Take your own Goddamn vaccine leave my own personal decisions and freedom of choice alone.
 

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Thanks to everyone for keeping this thread civil, and on topic. I certainly have questions about the vaccine, as well as COVID itself, but even though I have never had a flu shot, and I believe my immune system is robust and effective, I do plan on taking the vaccine when it becomes available to me. Mostly because I believe that will be the gateway to get back to work, which I don't really expect to see before this time next year.

I would like to see further research on the effects on the RNA/DNA of those infected, as I believe there would be a genetic explanation for why some in the high risk categories survive, while some in the low risk categories perish, and still others have long term effects.
 

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. . . .but in the meantime I'll continue to take the necessary steps to protect my health (wearing face masks in stores and social distancing).
Opinion: If everybody had continued to do this from the start, I don't think we would be in the predicament that we are now. But, so many people got tired of doing what's right.

. . . . It surely is a pure lottery .
Yup. No rhyme or reason why some don't get any symptoms, and others die. . . . and they live in the same house.

If you take the vaccine and are so sure of its validity WTF do you care if others don’t? . . . .
Agreed. My wife and I had a conversation about "anti-vaxers". She was worried that even if we got vaxed, other people who don't will infect us. IF, the vaccine is as effective as they say, it won't matter if they don't get vaxed.

. . . . as I believe there would be a genetic explanation for why some in the high risk categories survive, while some in the low risk categories perish, and still others have long term effects.
That is one of my biggest questions on covid. Blood type O has the highest resistance to the virus. China has 666,000ish citizens with type O; 48%. America only has 325,000ish as a total population. Hmmmm. . . .

Oh yeah, forgot, hell yeah I'm getting the vaccine. I also get the flu shot each year. The one year I didn't, I got the flu.
 
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ballisticexchris

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Opinion: If everybody had continued to do this from the start, I don't think we would be in the predicament that we are now. But, so many people got tired of doing what's right.

Yup. No rhyme or reason why some don't get any symptoms, and others die. . . . and they live in the same house.

Agreed. My wife and I had a conversation about "anti-vaxers". She was worried that even if we got vaxed, other people who don't will infect us. IF, the vaccine is as effective as they say, it won't matter if they don't get vaxed.
The problem is the small percentage of those that have an allergic reaction or vaccine is not effective on are going to be at a huge risk by those that are refusing to do anything to stop the spread.
 

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Those that don’t get the vax will end up clogging up the hospitals. A few weeks ago we had 14 ambulances queuing up outside the hospital, some with very poorly patients. It was awful for the patients and it was awful for the crews who had nothing to treat them with. Some crews spent their entire shift waiting outside. Morale is dropping and stress is increasing. As a union rep I see the toll it is taking. The vaccine will only be effective if most people take it. If we can hit 80 to 90% it will work and it won’t matter about those that just don’t care for anyone but themselves.


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The UK has now lost more civilian lives to covid than we did during WW2 including the blitz


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According to Parliament UK, 70,000 UK civilians lost their lives in WWII.

The latest UK govt. stats say around 61,000 Britons died of Covid.

According to the British Heart Foundation, heart disease kills 170,000 Britons every year. That's nearly three times the number of Covid deaths.

What's interesting is a Johns Hopkins study that showed during the 10 months of covid in the US, the number of people dying of heart disease -- the leading killer of elderly in the US -- plummeted. Which suggests that most deaths blamed on covid actually had other underlying causes. JH quickly retracted the paper after anti-lockdown conservatives highlighted it, but the authors stand by the data, which was taken from the CDC.
 
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