I think it came with the Tenere.
What do we now think of the bike
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I believe that Yamaha, faithful to its style, produces articles of very good quality. Pianos, guitars, saxophones, synthesizers, violins, drones, motors for other factories….etc, etc. Yamaha doesn't need to be trying to hold their customers captive by offering every year an update on what they sold last year….and if they were on the right track….they should be developing some electric motorcycle. That is the way. The way is not to go from 1200 to 1250 to 1300cm3 in 5 years….In those same 5 years, electric cars went from a couple of miles of autonomy to several hundred miles. Trucks with a lot of power, autonomy and reliability… So I think we have to wait. As Sierra1 says….the ability to manufacture something of excellent quality….they have it, only they take their time to do it (or how many years have they been “presenting” the T7??…and it is still the same T7 from the beginning)… .in that same period KTM went from 690 to 790 and now 890….Yamaha has a different work philosophy….
And if a Yamaha Maxitrail appeared “today”…..surely it will go on sale within 3 years…and it will have few HP compared to its European competitors…
.Another issue is the “market niche”….those who are around over 50 years old, they can and want to ride a 1200cm3….who are over 65 years old, want something lighter 700/800/900 is fine….and those who are under 40 years old, probably not many that they can buy a 1200 and they are rather “green” kids….if it is electric…better
And if a Yamaha Maxitrail appeared “today”…..surely it will go on sale within 3 years…and it will have few HP compared to its European competitors…
.Another issue is the “market niche”….those who are around over 50 years old, they can and want to ride a 1200cm3….who are over 65 years old, want something lighter 700/800/900 is fine….and those who are under 40 years old, probably not many that they can buy a 1200 and they are rather “green” kids….if it is electric…better
What's driving the increase in capacity is emission regulations.I believe that Yamaha, faithful to its style, produces articles of very good quality. Pianos, guitars, saxophones, synthesizers, violins, drones, motors for other factories….etc, etc. Yamaha doesn't need to be trying to hold their customers captive by offering every year an update on what they sold last year….and if they were on the right track….they should be developing some electric motorcycle. That is the way. The way is not to go from 1200 to 1250 to 1300cm3 in 5 years….In those same 5 years, electric cars went from a couple of miles of autonomy to several hundred miles. Trucks with a lot of power, autonomy and reliability… So I think we have to wait. As Sierra1 says….the ability to manufacture something of excellent quality….they have it, only they take their time to do it (or how many years have they been “presenting” the T7??…and it is still the same T7 from the beginning)… .in that same period KTM went from 690 to 790 and now 890….Yamaha has a different work philosophy….
And if a Yamaha Maxitrail appeared “today”…..surely it will go on sale within 3 years…and it will have few HP compared to its European competitors…
.Another issue is the “market niche”….those who are around over 50 years old, they can and want to ride a 1200cm3….who are over 65 years old, want something lighter 700/800/900 is fine….and those who are under 40 years old, probably not many that they can buy a 1200 and they are rather “green” kids….if it is electric…better
9 ys now off ownership and still love this thing
rob
rob
7 yrs and the same.
But surely the larger the motor, the more emissions? Back in the first years of the VMax, EPA regulations increased, but Yamaha was able to just increase the V-Boost which kept the HP up, and still meet the requirement.
They get tighter the CC increase is not that much it's progressive. The GS has only upped 100 cc since the 1150.
A couple of high school aged kids on my wife's side asked exactly that when I put my phone on the table. They thought it was a pager. Remember them?
At the time they were great. There wasn't really anything else. How many times i drove past a job i could have done on the way home if I had known.
We’d originally be launched to do jobs, come back, debrief, and write reports. Those were great times.
We hated the electronic leashes when they came out. Thing would buzz and we’d need to find a pay phone.
Then they showed you a number to call and THAT was real progress!
Then the early Blackberries with their Chiclet keypads that would get flaky if we worked in the rain.
At the end, we were expected to call into HQ and the now assembled “brain trusts” of PhDs at HQ at least once a day because it became a bullcr@p “team effort” with people who were not on site and were always either second guessing or trying to use us as “monkeys with cameras” to prove their remote theories. Glad to be retired and running my own show now.
As for the Tener, I’m over 10 years in And still happy with my second one. The first was serial #231 so it was one of the original Fukushima bikes, from right after the nuke disaster.
Yamaha’s main money has historically been from the sub-150cc market and they know it. That’s why so much of their efforts for the last couple of years have been on their line of very successful electric bikes.
Clawdog60
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street bikes anyway
Clawdog60
Well-Known Member
well it's like having cruise control now. I would not own another street bike without it. So Nice.
100% agreement. But due to sliding left/right to signal, push into stop, I'd probably still do that with a self-canceller. When I went to, and then from, the Beemer, I had to get new muscle memory.
Have mine since Aug 2022 did a +/- 4K KM's trip to the Maritimes from Montreal in September and love it traded in my 2019 VStrom 1000 which I liked but it doesn't even come close to the comfort of the Tenere.
In no particular order of importance:
I have done two 10Hr plus days the last one on my return from Fredericton NB +/- 900 KM and when i got home I felt fresh as a daisy at 60 years if age I plan to travel extensively on it looking at going to Newfoundland through Main next year
In no particular order of importance:
- Electronic adjustable suspension 10/10
- Cruise control 10/10
- shaft drive 10/10
- Seat 10/10 Seat height 10/10 (on the lowest setting and will do the seat mod to flatten it out this winter)
- Mastad windshield 10/10
- Outback Motortek crash bars 0/10 (more to come on this when i have time to write a report)
- Denali S3's Yellow Lens 10/10 on the lower crash bars and have decided to install a set of Denali driving lights up towards the
- OEM head lights 3/10 bought a set of LED bulbs and still not totally impressed will be working on this over the winter my only real issue with the bike OEM Headlights.
I have done two 10Hr plus days the last one on my return from Fredericton NB +/- 900 KM and when i got home I felt fresh as a daisy at 60 years if age I plan to travel extensively on it looking at going to Newfoundland through Main next year
Yamaha4Ever
Member
I'm a two weeks old S10 owner. And as much as I love the S10. The seat keeps pushing me forward on the tank and it annoys the sh!t out of me. I'm currently looking at Russel's All Day seats but would love to hear more about that mod first. Can you please pin point where I can find info about this?
EDIT: Found it:
Cycledude
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Lots of folks claim the level seat mod is a big improvement, it didn’t help me at all. Switched to a Corbin seat and that was definitely an improvement, but last fall I switched to a RDL seat and other than being a little tall for me its been working perfect !
Before you spend any money on a new seat try this mod - I have yet to try it but ordered the rubber gromets and it's on my to do list over the winter
Yamaha4Ever
Member
So you want to improve the protocol describe in the video by padding the two areas where rubber bumpers were removed?
I hope you have other projects for the winter, because this one will literally take you seconds to complete. ;-)
Hey Muybig just noticed you location, I'm in Laval.
Yamaha4Ever
Member
The RDL sure look nice. Unlike Corbin and SeatConcept and unless I missed it, it seams that the only option is to send them our OEM seats for Russel to make their magic on them.
I usually like to keep the stock seats as well.