Trailer hitch

[Z06]

I have built 6 hitches for the Tenere. Just finished a 199 day trip of 33000 miles with my cousin. Both on Tenere's with Bushtec trailers. Between two trips in last year we have pulled trailers over 40000 miles each with no problems.
Anyway, have had some interest in having some more hitches made. If you are interested post here and drop me a PM and I will see if we can get something going. Hitch is is $350 plus shipping cost.

 

[becoyote]

I have over 15,000 miles pulling a trailer with a Tenere using a hitch that z06 built for me.

Great hitch and great guy to deal with.

 

[OldRider]

Can you post some close up pictures? How easy is it to get off & on?

 

[Don in Lodi]

::017::

 

[Z06]

Can you post some close up pictures? How easy is it to get off & on?

Four bolts attaching hitch to bike. 5 minutes or so to install and or remove. For tire changes I remove two bolts at pegs and lower two bolts in rear leaving the upright supports attached to bike. You do have to remove the shifter pivot bolt to get hitch bolt out.
I use the riders foot peg mounts to share loads with the subframe and main frame rather than putting all the loads on the aluminum subframe. I also prefer the pulling and braking loads in line with trailer and centered down low on bike.
The hitch in picture has a u shaped bracket welded to front ends of hitch and separate parts for mounting foot pegs far enough out to allow them to fold. Current hitches have a foot peg block machined from solid stock and hitch is welded to that in place of the separate foot peg mount.
Can be made to accept the Bushtec mount like pictured or a standard ball.

 

[martin_nj]

Could I tow my WR250R with this hitch?

 

[Z06]

Could I tow my WR250R with this hitch?

I see no problem with the hitch handling that. If pulling a bike I would build a trailer that keeps the bike CG as low as possible.

 

[Checkswrecks]

Could I tow my WR250R with this hitch?

Only if you understand that you will go over the Gross Vehicle Weight on almost any trailer at all.

 

[Z06]

Only if you understand that you will go over the Gross Vehicle Weight on almost any trailer at all.

When you're towing a trailer, one last point to remember is that the entire weight of the trailer is not considered to be a part of your vehicle's GVW; however, the tongue weight -- the weight of the part of the trailer that actually attaches to your trailer hitch -- is part of your vehicle's GVW. Again, none of this changes your vehicle's GVWR. Trailers have their own specific gross vehicle weight ratings that, similar to the tow vehicle's GVWR should never be exceeded.
Care to clarify your statement?

 

[Checkswrecks]

When you're towing a trailer, one last point to remember is that the entire weight of the trailer is not considered to be a part of your vehicle's GVW; however, the tongue weight -- the weight of the part of the trailer that actually attaches to your trailer hitch -- is part of your vehicle's GVW. Again, none of this changes your vehicle's GVWR. Trailers have their own specific gross vehicle weight ratings that, similar to the tow vehicle's GVWR should never be exceeded.
Care to clarify your statement?

Totally true and I stand corrected as far as GVWR. But then unless adding electric brakes, the vehicle's brakes are still only rated to GVWR and the trailer adds to the forward inertia. (Unless trailer conditions are specified, which is normal for pickups and some other vehicles.) So the bike in the following photo is possibly not over GVWR in the vertical plane, but good luck stopping it. Further, if the hitch connection is above the motorcycle axle height, braking will lighten the rear wheel and reduce it's braking capability.

I am NOT criticizing your hitch and think that 98% of the folks here have enough common sense to enjoy your hitches. I've seen BECoyote's and know how well he has done with his. Heck, I may still make one for my own use.
There are still those other 2% though.

 

[joneil]

In trucks, there is a "Gross Combined Wt Rating". That us basically GVWR plus the total of what is being towed.

To say all you have to consider is tongue Wt isn't correct.

More to the point, if your trailering with a motorcycle, how does that affect the ABS? Dynamic Proportional Breaking? Those are just two very sensitive systems that are designed to manage the bike. When you add loads that are outside of the engineers design.... All bets are off.

I know a lot if people pull trailers with bikes. God bless them. Not me.

 

[Z06]

Totally true and I stand corrected as far as GVWR. But then unless adding electric brakes, the vehicle's brakes are still only rated to GVWR and the trailer adds to the forward inertia. (Unless trailer conditions are specified, which is normal for pickups and some other vehicles.) So the bike in the following photo is possibly not over GVWR in the vertical plane, but good luck stopping it. Further, if the hitch connection is above the motorcycle axle height, braking will lighten the rear wheel and reduce it's braking capability.

I am NOT criticizing your hitch and think that 98% of the folks here have enough common sense to enjoy your hitches. I've seen BECoyote's and know how well he has done with his. Heck, I may still make one for my own use.
There are still those other 2% though.

I agree about braking being affected by trailer. I have brakes on one of the trailers I tow. Even with brakes on trailer stopping distances are going to be increased typically. This is true even on my Super Duty truck. Pull a 14000 pound trailer that the truck is rated for with trailer electric brakes and I don't want to stop fast on Tenere in front of it with a 400 lb trailer without brakes :'(
As too hitch connection being above axle height, I totally agree. One of a few reasons my main hitch bar is attached at rider foot peg mounts instead of passenger peg mounts. When on bike the hitch connection is below axle center line.
The photo is a totally unrealistic example.
No offense taken. Don't believe my idea is only way to do it. Have proven to my self that it works well though. And I would not make one without having an idea of what someone plans to do with it.
When you make yours keep in mind some of your own recommendations.
I will do what I can to help the 98%. The other 2% are on their own

 

[Z06]

In trucks, there is a "Gross Combined Wt Rating". That us basically GVWR plus the total of what is being towed.

To say all you have to consider is tongue Wt isn't correct.

More to the point, if your trailering with a motorcycle, how does that affect the ABS? Dynamic Proportional Breaking? Those are just two very sensitive systems that are designed to manage the bike. When you add loads that are outside of the engineers design.... All bets are off.

I know a lot if people pull trailers with bikes. God bless them. Not me.

Who said all you have to consider is tongue weight.
ABS is basically measuring wheel speeds. Shouldn't be affected by load. Cant answer question about Dynamic Proportional Breaking.
I know a lot of people that carry passengers on motorcycles. I have same feeling about that. Not me.

 

[Don in Lodi]

Who said all you have to consider is tongue weight.
ABS is basically measuring wheel speeds. Shouldn't be affected by load. Cant answer question about Dynamic Proportional Breaking.
I know a lot of people that carry passengers on motorcycles. I have same feeling about that. Not me.

Pictures all over the web of two hundred pound passenger fails ??? ... I'd much rather have a three hundred pound trailer behind me with 30-45# of tongue weight. I can deal with the extra push. Not much different than going down hill... all the time.

 

[avc8130]

What is the weight capacity of the Tenere?

ac

 

[Z06]

What is the weight capacity of the Tenere?

ac

Per owners manual
Cal model 459#s
49 state model 461#s
Manual states that This vehicle is not designed to pull a trailer or to be attached to a sidecar.

 

[martin_nj]

Re: Towing a trailer with the Super Tenere?

 

[martin_nj]

Re: Trailer Hitch for Tenere?

 

[sallydog]

Re: Towing a trailer with the Super Tenere?

looks like a moto mule. whats the deal? thats what im looking for. how much? where to get?

 

[trikepilot]

Re: Towing a trailer with the Super Tenere?

Now that is pretty damn cool? Whose is it - speak up with the details??