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bnschroder

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It looks like there is a new option for an internal TPMS available on Amazon, which I personally prefer. But since the Orange TPMS seems to be no longer available, I am already looking for alternatives when my sensors die.
However, the descriptions look sketchy (there are multiple names for the same system, some call the sensors "external", and none talk about battery replacement in the sensor).
Has anybody tried this?
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It looks like there is a new option for an internal TPMS available on Amazon, which I personally prefer. But since the Orange TPMS seems to be no longer available, I am already looking for alternatives when my sensors die.
However, the descriptions look sketchy (there are multiple names for the same system, some call the sensors "external", and none talk about battery replacement in the sensor).
Has anybody tried this?
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I saw this and thought about it. However I opted to go with it counterpart on the stem. I will be changing to metal stems when the tires need changing.

I think it’s important on these mass production, multibranded/unbranded Chinese made economy units, that we look more at them for changes. There is a review by an Amazon guy that had his hit the year mark just fine. Yes many who compared next to digital handheld meters, who saw everything from perfection to minor and major differences.

The guy who did a 12 month follow up noted that after multiple rain storms over the year that he had some fogging in the display. The placement in a plastic bag with rice fixes that, but some damage has already set in.

He did report that his LCD display was failing after 18 months. I spent $30US so I figure a years service life is better than you get from $30 gloves. Plus I would bring in the display during Winters as well as seal up the places where the plastic fits together a bit more.

As I am getting my tool kit that fits in s tube prepared, as well as packing the right first aid kit, and a CO2 inflation/tire plug kit for those out in the sticks riding, it’s nice to know the limitations of everything on the bike, especially aftermarket products and my own health/physical capabilities which seem to be in constant change as well.

All of the above as well as a disc rotor lock with 110dB alarm set me back about $100.

Had I bought the same unit for $60, this would have just been wasted cash. There are insurance discounts available for the disc lock and alarm, if you are younger or have a few tickets or claims in the past few years.

I love information on all this stuff. But I try to understand the faults as well as the possibilities. Ye Olde Kentucky Windage method put broken rifles back into many fights, because you learned to compensate for broke/not the best designed gear.

That’s part of what Soldiers and Marines call, improvise, adapt and overcome. I’m sure the Coast Guard, Navy and Air Force deal with it as well. I know there are a ton of beat up aircraft that they force pilots to land on carriers to be repaired because it keeps everybody staying on the edge rather than get complacent.


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<snip> and a CO2 inflation/tire plug kit for those out in the sticks riding,
ACK! Toss the CO2 and buy a compressor. CO2 may get enough inflation to ride, ONCE. If you only have one puncture and don't waste too much during the repair. The easiest way to plug a tire is to start by inflating it! You need the resistance to push against when inserting the sticky string. You can't really do that with CO2 unless you carry a lot of cartridges. And don't forget to install a dedicated, fused power lead from the battery to power your compressor. The factory cig port is fused at 3 amps and won't do the job. You need 10-15 amp fused connection with appropriate size wiring. Any battery tender pig tail will work fine.

On the TPMS. It kinda sucks to get to the end of the street and see that you are low since it didn't start working until you started moving.
 
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ballisticexchris

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Actually the C02 is the best option for getting on the road quickly. It will also seat a tire if you remove the valve core. Compressors are too bulky and unreliable. I use the Innovations large inflator for big jobs and good old 12 gram ones and a bike pump when I'm not pressed for time.
 

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Actually the C02 is the best option for getting on the road quickly. It will also seat a tire if you remove the valve core. Compressors are too bulky and unreliable. I use the Innovations large inflator for big jobs and good old 12 gram ones and a bike pump when I'm not pressed for time.
Have you ever used a CO2 cartridge on a street tire this size? Nothing is unreliable about a compressor. And you can still seat the bead if you know the techniques. Besides, if you waste a CO2 cartridge seating the bead, how many more are you carrying to fill the tire back up after you re-install the core?

Apologies for the highjack on the thread. Just trying to help someone that wanted to be prepared.
 
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ballisticexchris

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Have you ever used a CO2 cartridge on a street tire this size? Nothing is unreliable about a compressor.
I have and that along with a small hand pump takes up very little room. And no you will not be able to seat a badly broken bead with an electric pump (without the help of rope or something around the tire) OTOH electric pumps can’t be beat for the guys who like to sit on the side of the road and take a long rest waiting for the tire to fill up.
 
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ballisticexchris

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Keep us in the loop. I like the ide of tps. I have a gamin 595. Their system seems to eat batteries and has been problematic to some.
Mine has been pretty reliable. I found to just ignore the low battery/ no connection warnings. After I start riding it resets and works fine.
 

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It looks like there is a new option for an internal TPMS available on Amazon, which I personally prefer. But since the Orange TPMS seems to be no longer available, I am already looking for alternatives when my sensors die.
However, the descriptions look sketchy (there are multiple names for the same system, some call the sensors "external", and none talk about battery replacement in the sensor).
Has anybody tried this?
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I have also seen these advertised on eBay... what caught my eye was the tyre sensor. It is long and slim and the hex look high enough that you dont have to file away your rim to get a spanner on it to tighten it down.

My only concern is the how well the sensor seal to the rim... the diagram shows that the there is only 1 rubber washer and that goes on the outside of the rim under the lock nut.

any one fit one yet to an S10 rim?
 

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I have also seen these advertised on eBay... what caught my eye was the tyre sensor. It is long and slim and the hex look high enough that you dont have to file away your rim to get a spanner on it to tighten it down.

My only concern is the how well the sensor seal to the rim... the diagram shows that the there is only 1 rubber washer and that goes on the outside of the rim under the lock nut.

any one fit one yet to an S10 rim?
Bueller, Bueller
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Have you ever used a CO2 cartridge on a street tire this size? Nothing is unreliable about a compressor. And you can still seat the bead if you know the techniques. Besides, if you waste a CO2 cartridge seating the bead, how many more are you carrying to fill the tire back up after you re-install the core?

Apologies for the highjack on the thread. Just trying to help someone that wanted to be prepared.
I have. I re-inflated the rear tire of my ST1100 on the road using CO2 cartridges, worked like a charm. Before packing I did a rough calculation of how may CO2 cartridges I would need to inflate the rear tire to 42 PSI and came up with 8 cartridges! I packed 9 figuring I'd waste the 1st one. Years later I was forced to repair a puncture in the middle of nowhere using my gummy worm plugs and the CO2. I forgot why I'd packed the 9th cartridge and ended up using it too. The tire had over 50 PSI at that point!

Though my repair was successful, I got nervous because if the plug hadn't held I would not have means to repeat the repair. I bought a can of fix a flat in the next town but luckily didn't need it. I now carry a small compressor, mostly as a back up if I have to repeat a repair. Another issue with CO2 is that it permeates the rubber much more quickly than air, so you need to check and adjust your pressure more often until most of the CO2 has been replaced with air.
 
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ballisticexchris

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I'm also packing a compressor now. It's the 1st time for me. I have been using C02's and mountain bike pumps forever. I do have to say the compressor is pretty slick just not as fast.

I'd be interested to see, long term, what the results are for those sensors vs a calibrated digital gauge. Is that something you'd be willing to do? Check the pressure once in awhile against a known working gauge?
My Garmin valve cap sensor system is within .5 PSI of my gauge. So pretty darn close.
 

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I thought that valve cap pressure monitoring systems required metal valve stems.

People seem to be using them on the original rubber stems

Anyone encountering problems?

Mike
 

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I been using the Garmin system with my Zumo 590 I got several years ago. Garmin does recommend replacing the valves with metal ones which I did.
 
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Heading into year #3 with TPMS and rubber valve stems......no problem here.
Many thanks for your help. I'll probably invest in a set in the near furture

I been using the Garmin system with my Zumo 590 got several years. Garmin does recommend replacing the valves with metal ones which I did.
I see that metal tyre valves have to be tightened down with a nut. Is there space to do this or did you have to 'modify' the rim that the spokes hook into?

Cheers

Mike
 

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Many thanks for your help. I'll probably invest in a set in the near furture



I see that metal tyre valves have to be tightened down with a nut. Is there space to do this or did you have to 'modify' the rim that the spokes hook into?

Cheers

Mike
The nuts fit on mine, I did have to file down the washer that goes under the nut to make them fit. Been on for almost 5 years and 2 tire changes...no issues.
 
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