TomTom vs Garmin. Your 2 cents please.

Dirt_Dad

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Currently switching from my 8 year old Zumo 665 to the Zumo XT. Came highly recommended from a trusted riding buddy. It is vastly improved over the 665. Still working out some issues, but promising.
 

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I do like the size of the XT screen and it looks better without the big surround of the Tomtom

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The Garmin XT looks nice! When my Zumo pops its clogs I'll look to get one of those. I've tried to like Tom-tom devices but I've been disappointed every time. The user interface is nice but the hardware always let me down due to inadequate specs.
 

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I do like the size of the XT screen and it looks better without the big surround of the Tomtom

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My biggest hesitation going from the 665 to the XT was giving up the satellite weather. I ride a lot where there is no cell coverage (WV). Unfortunately, the new breed only uses cell. My 665 became unresponsive at times and unpredictable. Still works for the most part, just can't trust it. My 690 came with a 665 mount, so it won't be fully retired. I know Garmin would have sent me a replacement for some fee, but decided to give the XT a shot. Below with weather from the cell phone.



It's very frustrating trying to get the old Basecamp (.gdb) files into the XT. Haven't figured that one out yet. Building a route on the XT is also more of a pain since you can't build it by picking the next waypoint to be near the last one. Only used it on 2 rides, but it looks to be doing a much, much better job of letting you see the smaller roads around you and where they go. That was always a horrible limitation of the 665 and earlier. Zoom out, roads disappear. Now, the road seem to be saying on screen with automatic zooming. Much needed improvement.

Still a ton to learn about this unit, but so far, I'm thinking Garmin finally made a product worth buying.

Oh, and it really is daylight readable for the first time ever.
 

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I went from a 660 Zumo to the XT and it's almost night and day better. The screen is amazing and very responsive. It does just about everything you would want it too. Although some of that needs your phone to be hooked up to it like the weather map overlay. Topographic maps you can load on through Wi-Fi. It gives you lots of info on what's ahead and is very customizable, you can change how the map looks and what colour the roads are which is great. I have mine mounted above the clocks. My Zumo was difficult to see in sunlight. The XT is in a different League alltogether. It takes some time to get your head around it coming from the 660 but all said and done it really is much better than anything else out there at the moment.
 

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Thanks for the feedback both, it's appreciated.

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My biggest hesitation going from the 665 to the XT was giving up the satellite weather. I ride a lot where there is no cell coverage (WV). Unfortunately, the new breed only uses cell. My 665 became unresponsive at times and unpredictable. Still works for the most part, just can't trust it. My 690 came with a 665 mount, so it won't be fully retired. I know Garmin would have sent me a replacement for some fee, but decided to give the XT a shot. Below with weather from the cell phone.



It's very frustrating trying to get the old Basecamp (.gdb) files into the XT. Haven't figured that one out yet. Building a route on the XT is also more of a pain since you can't build it by picking the next waypoint to be near the last one. Only used it on 2 rides, but it looks to be doing a much, much better job of letting you see the smaller roads around you and where they go. That was always a horrible limitation of the 665 and earlier. Zoom out, roads disappear. Now, the road seem to be saying on screen with automatic zooming. Much needed improvement.

Still a ton to learn about this unit, but so far, I'm thinking Garmin finally made a product worth buying.

Oh, and it really is daylight readable for the first time ever.
DD, copy (or export) your basecamp files to the XT. On the XT, go to "Apps" > "Trip Planner". "Saved Trips", then click the little wrench icon in the upper left and choose "import". You'll then be presented with a list of all your imported files....you can check the box next to the ones you want and then chose "import". They will then appear in your "Saved Trips". Yeah I know, not very intuitive and took me a while to work out but it is what it is.
 

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I went from a Garmin 390 to the XT, and love it. The screen is amazing, and much more detailed. Also with the faster processor, stuff happens quick. So far, other than the usual Basecamp complaints, my only complaint so far, is in heavy rain, the rain will cause the screen to change to other screens. You can put a hood over it to stop that if you want, or have it on a more vertical angle, otherwise easy to switch back.
 

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DD, copy (or export) your basecamp files to the XT. On the XT, go to "Apps" > "Trip Planner". "Saved Trips", then click the little wrench icon in the upper left and choose "import". You'll then be presented with a list of all your imported files....you can check the box next to the ones you want and then chose "import". They will then appear in your "Saved Trips". Yeah I know, not very intuitive and took me a while to work out but it is what it is.
Yeah, I'm happy to hear that works for someone, but not working for me. I'm spent way too much time trying to figure this out.

For me that method works up to the "chose import" step. It imports a 250 mile route in about 1 second. Then upon opening it I get a 12 mile segment of the route.

I suspect it's going to require me to convert routes to .gpx then do it again. I've done that a few times and the routes have not loaded correctly. Definitely an annoying aspect of the XT.
 

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All I’m familiar with are Garmin’s. My first was a 276c, loved the detail and keeping those details when zooming out, something lost on the Zumo models.

My current one is a 390 and I have 595 on the ST. I like the Bluetooth and like the TPMS app on the 595 but the sending units are intermitting.
I also hate losing my settings after updating and sometimes for no reason. Also the battery is weak, even though new it drains quickly.

I don’t use the 390 much but when the 595 dies I’ll look at other options.
 

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Ive owned a tom tom since the first model they made in the early 2000's and several after that. Ill never buy another one again. Garmin is hands down the better system in mapping, and updating.

Garmin even if they discontinue a model still for the most part future proofs it and allows you to update not only the firmware/ bug fixes, but maps as well. Even if you dont buy a lifetime map unit, you can still at your option update the map for $30 or whatever.

Tom Tom tells you to take a hike and buy a new unit when they deiced to stop supporting it.
 
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I'm still liking my Garmin 595LM. It is simply amazing. And what a big step from my 60CSX!!
 

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I’ve never owned a TomTom but one of my friends switched to TomTom and loves it, I think his is the 400, he said it took a while to learn how it works. I’ve heard many times that when a TomTom gets to be a few years old TomTom discontinues the updates, I’m not sure if that’s true but so Far that has kept me from buying one.

My first gps was iway I believe they have quit the gps business and in my opinion it was lousy gps.
Second gps was Garmin Nuvi 1450, paid $130 and used it on my Goldwing for well over 300,000 miles and loved it ! Gave it to one of my brothers and he is still using it on his Goldwing.
Bought new Zumo 595 a few years ago, was very unhappy when it arrived, compared to the 1450 the 595 screen is crap very hard for me to read in sunlight, i actually called Garmin to complain about it and they said everyone loves the new screen ! Well I hate the 595 screen. I’m still using the 595 on the Tenere.
For the Goldwing I got a new Zumo XT a Couple months ago, wow it has the best screen I’ve ever seen on a gps ! It’s very easy to read in any conditions ! My only complaint is they should have made the external speaker a little louder, eventually I hope to hook it up to some sort of Bluetooth . I do have a Sena 20s evo that I use with the 595 on the Tenere but for the Goldwing I’m hoping to get Bluetooth that will work through my current J&M headset so I don’t have to mess with charging a Sena battery and still use the Goldwings FM radio.
 
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I have no issues at all seeing the screen on my 595. It's crystal clear even in sunlight. I bought a shade shortly after it was mounted on my bike.
 

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I don't know. Sometimes it's more fun to take a wrong turn and see something you weren't expecting. Nothing against GPS in general but all this talk of route planning and guidance so that I never veer from my intended route, while reassuring, takes a little of the "fun" out of the trip. YMMV
 

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I don't know. Sometimes it's more fun to take a wrong turn and see something you weren't expecting. Nothing against GPS in general but all this talk of route planning and guidance so that I never veer from my intended route, while reassuring, takes a little of the "fun" out of the trip. YMMV
Ha, my GPS has taken me to many unexpected cow trials that ended at a locked gate
 

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I don't know. Sometimes it's more fun to take a wrong turn and see something you weren't expecting. Nothing against GPS in general but all this talk of route planning and guidance so that I never veer from my intended route, while reassuring, takes a little of the "fun" out of the trip. YMMV
For me its the reverse. I can scout and canvas an area via sat imagery and find things that are completely hidden from the trails.
 

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I’ve never owned a TomTom but one of my friends switched to TomTom and loves it, I think his is the 400, he said it took a while to learn how it works. I’ve heard many times that when a TomTom gets to be a few years old TomTom discontinues the updates, I’m not sure if that’s true but so Far that has kept me from buying one.
Its 100% true. I have 2 now that they wont even let you connect to the software. When it sees the model it says . Sorry we no longer support that and sends you a link to buy a newer unit. You can't even log in to plan routes or anything with it (one of the better features of tom tom software).
 
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