Clawdog60
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Where’s a list of darkside tires that fit?
My one and only use was OK. Reasonable cost with the rebate, good road and dirt handling and even wear. They howl badly, wore quicker than the less expensive Shinko and were more difficult to mount than the Shinko. YMMV.Continuing on, I ran the kenda bb 5000km or 3106miles I think that conversion is about right. They tip in really fast surprised me the first time, but good on dirt. Twice that out of the front.
So has anyone tried the bridgestone AX41? The reviews all look promising?
Edit2, 21 Apr 2020:I installed a set of these Dunlop Trailmax Mission today.
I got 12,500 miles out of the OEM Bridgestone on a 2016 Non ES, stock suspension. Me: 175 lbs, 6 ft. mostly solo rider 90/10. (I have a mile of sand / gravel / dirt leading to my house every time out). I aired to 33 frt / 36 rear for most of their life.
First impressions of the Dunlop TM's. I bought for 50 / 50 rating, and promise of longevity, and quietness on pavement. The Dunlop website shows a slight "give" on the pavement side for a large increase on the "dirt" side of the chart. I understand the new definitions where tire raters believe its not a one-to-one proposition summing to 100%, but that one can keep a "mostly pavement" rating and still improve off road capability such that they sum to more than 100%. ie: These tire would be 90/50 in the new speak. Im OK with that.
OK, they are quiet. Coming off of a set of OEM tires, these are pretty quiet compared to them. They did exhibit a harmonic at about 55 MPH where I heard a somewhat louder road noise (howl) that gradually fell off as speed increased above 65. At 85, the motor noise drowns out everything else. At 45, these are quiet, no howl.
They turn in nicely. Theres no wobble / shimmy at any speed. They inspired confidence in gravel, not tucking in the front end, if pressed. (Yes, I tried it).
You should read this as a tentatively good reporting for these tires. I write tentatively, because my mileage on them is low. But, I like them.
OK, onto the Cons. The rear has a very tall wear bar indicator. That bar indicator is going to show these as "worn out" well before I think they will be worn out.
I have them set at the Dunlop spec of 33/ 42 PSI. I completed my freeway ride as the last part of my initial checkout ride, at "extra" freeway speeds. So, they were hot coming in to park at home. My TPMS was flashing a red warning on the rear pressure. As I watched while parked in the driveway, pressure increased from 48 to 50 PSI. I got off and laid a hand on the rear and front tires. The front was warm, the rear was very hot. So, I currently think the rear is susceptible to over heating at minimal overpressures. I wrote that very carefully, and I believe there is nothing dangerous here. I'm saying, watch how much you air up the rear tire, and pay attention to how hot it gets at load and speed.
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I thought this info might add to this post. I'm reporting from Tucson, AZ. So, it gets hot here. The ride on the freeway yesterday occurred with mostly cloudy skies / overcast / looking like rain. Temps in the low 70's. The point being the pavement surface was much cooler than normal during the higher speed portion of the run. Rear pressure measured 42 PSI this morning, cold tire at mid 60's garage.
That's an offroad tire I'm done with itMitas E07 or E07 Dakar. Not the plus version.
I'm curious how a trail tire compares to a touring/street tire. I mean its joke to think that its offroad useful. I've run touring off road and noticed that is wonders more but did notice much difference from the stock OEM's to street tires other then then the streets were quieter and cheaper.I would recommend the Michelin Pilot series. I ran those on my Ninja. I can only imagine how good the latest generation dual compound Pilot Road 5 Trail tire is. They are a dual compound and should be long lasting. I liked the Pilot so much it's all I ever ran for years.
Still doesnt answer the street question. Thanks any howI think it is all about the size. The trail tire comes in a 110/80 x 19 size. I'm pretty sure they are the same tire.
The Michelin Pilot 5 trail is a 100% street tire:Still doesnt answer the street question. Thanks any how
I was using the Bridgestone BT-30s on the ST1300. I was getting 6,500+ miles on the rears, but they were getting pushed pretty hard. They stuck well, and were durable. Also check into the Metzler Roadtec Z6. I had been using them on the RT1150. Loved them; great stick, good life, and never picked up a nail. Would have used them on the Honda, but they didn't come in the right size(s). I've learned to shy away from high mileage tires. Most of the time, the high mileage comes at the cost of grip. "I" am willing to sacrifice some mileage for improved grip. (I'd rather my tires grip the road better, so my ass doesn't grip the seat as much)Can anyone recommend at tire for sports touring with high mile life? . . . .
Well again I'm looking for a street tire minus the market mumbo jumboThe Michelin Pilot 5 trail is a 100% street tire:
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As far as how a trail tire compares to street tire? Kind of a loaded question. Trail tire is not going to grip the pavement as well as a dedicated tire and vice versa.
I have run higher psi on touring tires and have noticed they are squirrely at 34/42 @ 80 degrees I know that's not at fault of the tire but the caruss build but are looking for s dedicated touring tire for for a heavy bike. Also thank you, I went when whatever would fit and not the best choice since the the st felt plasticky with oem pressure settings for a heavy rider.I was using the Bridgestone BT-30s on the ST1300. I was getting 6,500+ miles on the rears, but they were getting pushed pretty hard. They stuck well, and were durable. Also check into the Metzler Roadtec Z6. I had been using them on the RT1150. Loved them; great stick, good life, and never picked up a nail. Would have used them on the Honda, but they didn't come in the right size(s). I've learned to shy away from high mileage tires. Most of the time, the high mileage comes at the cost of grip. "I" am willing to sacrifice some mileage for improved grip. (I'd rather my tires grip the road better, so my ass doesn't grip the seat as much)
The marketing is fancy for sure. I have had such good luck with the Pilot is why I recommend it. For the street there are a lot of fantastic choices across all the major brands. Main thing I pay attention to is the rubber compound. I gravitate to the soft side for both on and off road tires. With knobby's it's pretty simple to just squeeze/push the knobs to test the compound. On a dedicated street tire I recommend going to your local dealer with a Shore A Durometer and test the tires at the top and side of tread so you can make an informed decision.Well again I'm looking for a street tire minus the market mumbo jumbo