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Continuing on, I ran the kenda bb 5000km or 3106miles I think that conversion is about right. They tip in really fast surprised me the first time, but good on dirt. Twice that out of the front.
So has anyone tried the bridgestone AX41? The reviews all look promising?
 

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Continuing on, I ran the kenda bb 5000km or 3106miles I think that conversion is about right. They tip in really fast surprised me the first time, but good on dirt. Twice that out of the front.
So has anyone tried the bridgestone AX41? The reviews all look promising?
My one and only use was OK. Reasonable cost with the rebate, good road and dirt handling and even wear. They howl badly, wore quicker than the less expensive Shinko and were more difficult to mount than the Shinko. YMMV.

There is a thread started, check here...
https://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?threads/bridgestone-adventurecross-ax41-anyone-yet.25899/
 
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I'll add a few tires to the list as well:

Front: 110/80R19
Rear: 150/70R17
 

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Looks like we have a new option on the table. The Dunlop Trailmax Mission. Has anyone picked up a pair and tried them yet? I think I'm going to give them a try for the Arkansas rally in April. One reviewer wrote that they are a rated 50/50 tire but they are so good that you really have to adjust the math and call them a 90 road / 60 dirt tire.
dunlop trailmax mission.jpg
 

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I installed a set of these Dunlop Trailmax Mission today.

I got 12,500 miles out of the OEM Bridgestone on a 2016 Non ES, stock suspension. Me: 175 lbs, 6 ft. mostly solo rider 90/10. (I have a mile of sand / gravel / dirt leading to my house every time out). I aired to 33 frt / 36 rear for most of their life.

First impressions of the Dunlop TM's. I bought for 50 / 50 rating, and promise of longevity, and quietness on pavement. The Dunlop website shows a slight "give" on the pavement side for a large increase on the "dirt" side of the chart. I understand the new definitions where tire raters believe its not a one-to-one proposition summing to 100%, but that one can keep a "mostly pavement" rating and still improve off road capability such that they sum to more than 100%. ie: These tire would be 90/50 in the new speak. Im OK with that.

OK, they are quiet. Coming off of a set of OEM tires, these are pretty quiet compared to them. They did exhibit a harmonic at about 55 MPH where I heard a somewhat louder road noise (howl) that gradually fell off as speed increased above 65. At 85, the motor noise drowns out everything else. At 45, these are quiet, no howl.

They turn in nicely. Theres no wobble / shimmy at any speed. They inspired confidence in gravel, not tucking in the front end, if pressed. (Yes, I tried it).

You should read this as a tentatively good reporting for these tires. I write tentatively, because my mileage on them is low. But, I like them.

OK, onto the Cons. The rear has a very tall wear bar indicator. That bar indicator is going to show these as "worn out" well before I think they will be worn out.

I have them set at the Dunlop spec of 33/ 42 PSI. I completed my freeway ride as the last part of my initial checkout ride, at "extra" freeway speeds. So, they were hot coming in to park at home. My TPMS was flashing a red warning on the rear pressure. As I watched while parked in the driveway, pressure increased from 48 to 50 PSI. I got off and laid a hand on the rear and front tires. The front was warm, the rear was very hot. So, I currently think the rear is susceptible to over heating at minimal overpressures. I wrote that very carefully, and I believe there is nothing dangerous here. I'm saying, watch how much you air up the rear tire, and pay attention to how hot it gets at load and speed.

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I thought this info might add to this post. I'm reporting from Tucson, AZ. So, it gets hot here. The ride on the freeway yesterday occurred with mostly cloudy skies / overcast / looking like rain. Temps in the low 70's. The point being the pavement surface was much cooler than normal during the higher speed portion of the run. Rear pressure measured 42 PSI this morning, cold tire at mid 60's garage.
 
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I installed a set of these Dunlop Trailmax Mission today.

I got 12,500 miles out of the OEM Bridgestone on a 2016 Non ES, stock suspension. Me: 175 lbs, 6 ft. mostly solo rider 90/10. (I have a mile of sand / gravel / dirt leading to my house every time out). I aired to 33 frt / 36 rear for most of their life.

First impressions of the Dunlop TM's. I bought for 50 / 50 rating, and promise of longevity, and quietness on pavement. The Dunlop website shows a slight "give" on the pavement side for a large increase on the "dirt" side of the chart. I understand the new definitions where tire raters believe its not a one-to-one proposition summing to 100%, but that one can keep a "mostly pavement" rating and still improve off road capability such that they sum to more than 100%. ie: These tire would be 90/50 in the new speak. Im OK with that.

OK, they are quiet. Coming off of a set of OEM tires, these are pretty quiet compared to them. They did exhibit a harmonic at about 55 MPH where I heard a somewhat louder road noise (howl) that gradually fell off as speed increased above 65. At 85, the motor noise drowns out everything else. At 45, these are quiet, no howl.

They turn in nicely. Theres no wobble / shimmy at any speed. They inspired confidence in gravel, not tucking in the front end, if pressed. (Yes, I tried it).

You should read this as a tentatively good reporting for these tires. I write tentatively, because my mileage on them is low. But, I like them.

OK, onto the Cons. The rear has a very tall wear bar indicator. That bar indicator is going to show these as "worn out" well before I think they will be worn out.

I have them set at the Dunlop spec of 33/ 42 PSI. I completed my freeway ride as the last part of my initial checkout ride, at "extra" freeway speeds. So, they were hot coming in to park at home. My TPMS was flashing a red warning on the rear pressure. As I watched while parked in the driveway, pressure increased from 48 to 50 PSI. I got off and laid a hand on the rear and front tires. The front was warm, the rear was very hot. So, I currently think the rear is susceptible to over heating at minimal overpressures. I wrote that very carefully, and I believe there is nothing dangerous here. I'm saying, watch how much you air up the rear tire, and pay attention to how hot it gets at load and speed.

Edit:
I thought this info might add to this post. I'm reporting from Tucson, AZ. So, it gets hot here. The ride on the freeway yesterday occurred with mostly cloudy skies / overcast / looking like rain. Temps in the low 70's. The point being the pavement surface was much cooler than normal during the higher speed portion of the run. Rear pressure measured 42 PSI this morning, cold tire at mid 60's garage.
Edit2, 21 Apr 2020:
I've 600 miles on this set now. The cold-to-hot inflation increase has not changed. I start at (frt / rear): 33/36, and by rides end I am at: 37/44.
They have gotten slightly quieter, not that there was much noise to begin with. The howl at 55 MPH is still there, and has not quieted.
Last thing: I have now noticed a very pronounced willingness for the front to wobble while leaned over, if a bump is encountered. This was not present at any time with the OEM tires throughout their life. Said again, another way: If I'm leaned over in a (L or R) turn, and I hit a bump. A small bump, a shallow pothole, a divot, a tarsnake. If I encounter that while leaned over in a turn, the front end is going to wobble and shake some. It does dampen out in a few seconds, while Im frowning and staying loose on the bars. I can tell you it is disconcerting. I dont like this new behavior. I'm going to investigate further into the steering (stem, bars, etc torques). If I find anything there, I will report back. Otherwise, if you dont hear from me, assume its the tires.

Edit3, 22 April 2020
I went through the front end thoroughly. I did not find any direct cause for my "wobble during leaning" issue. Everything was correctly tight. I also suspended the front end and pushed / pulled in a bunch of ways to check the steering stem. Then, loosen and re-tighten the front axle and pinches. Nothing direct found. What I did find was how easily I could apply a force perpendicular to the wheel edge, and get the front end to "flex" in that force direction, a "yaw" about the steering stem axis, just the way the steering system would need to move, to wobble. Like this: With the front end tightened to be as ridden, suspend the front wheel. Lean the front wheel to one side or the other, to it's limit. Push on the front wheel edge to force the steering against the steering stop. Note how little pressure it takes to get the system to "yaw". Like that. IMO: Not much pressure is needed, and my cycle is not worn out, not hardly a teenager yet at 13,150 miles. So, bottomline: I'm blaming the tires for the wobble, since I did not get it with the OEM tire set, and apparently these new ones generate enough force (not alot) to cause the system to wobble while leaning over in a turn. The steering system is sensitive, and the new tires contribute enough to excite it that way.
 
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Can anyone recommend at tire for sports touring with high mile life? Dont much for water grip or for being super leaned over. I am long distance rider, daily rider and would consider myself an intermediate canyon rider. I am currently running roadsmart 3. They work great but are squaring off after 5k miles the rear and the front is fine.
 
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I would recommend the Michelin Pilot series. I ran those on my Ninja. I can only imagine how good the latest generation dual compound Pilot Road 5 Trail tire is. They are a dual compound and should be long lasting. I liked the Pilot so much it's all I ever ran for years.
 

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I would recommend the Michelin Pilot series. I ran those on my Ninja. I can only imagine how good the latest generation dual compound Pilot Road 5 Trail tire is. They are a dual compound and should be long lasting. I liked the Pilot so much it's all I ever ran for years.
I'm curious how a trail tire compares to a touring/street tire. I mean its joke to think that its offroad useful. I've run touring off road and noticed that is wonders more but did notice much difference from the stock OEM's to street tires other then then the streets were quieter and cheaper.
 
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ballisticexchris

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I think it is all about the size. The trail tire comes in a 110/80 x 19 size. I'm pretty sure they are the same tire.
 
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Can anyone recommend at tire for sports touring with high mile life? . . . .
I was using the Bridgestone BT-30s on the ST1300. I was getting 6,500+ miles on the rears, but they were getting pushed pretty hard. They stuck well, and were durable. Also check into the Metzler Roadtec Z6. I had been using them on the RT1150. Loved them; great stick, good life, and never picked up a nail. Would have used them on the Honda, but they didn't come in the right size(s). I've learned to shy away from high mileage tires. Most of the time, the high mileage comes at the cost of grip. "I" am willing to sacrifice some mileage for improved grip. (I'd rather my tires grip the road better, so my ass doesn't grip the seat as much)
 

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I was using the Bridgestone BT-30s on the ST1300. I was getting 6,500+ miles on the rears, but they were getting pushed pretty hard. They stuck well, and were durable. Also check into the Metzler Roadtec Z6. I had been using them on the RT1150. Loved them; great stick, good life, and never picked up a nail. Would have used them on the Honda, but they didn't come in the right size(s). I've learned to shy away from high mileage tires. Most of the time, the high mileage comes at the cost of grip. "I" am willing to sacrifice some mileage for improved grip. (I'd rather my tires grip the road better, so my ass doesn't grip the seat as much)
I have run higher psi on touring tires and have noticed they are squirrely at 34/42 @ 80 degrees I know that's not at fault of the tire but the caruss build but are looking for s dedicated touring tire for for a heavy bike. Also thank you, I went when whatever would fit and not the best choice since the the st felt plasticky with oem pressure settings for a heavy rider.
 
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Well again I'm looking for a street tire minus the market mumbo jumbo
The marketing is fancy for sure. I have had such good luck with the Pilot is why I recommend it. For the street there are a lot of fantastic choices across all the major brands. Main thing I pay attention to is the rubber compound. I gravitate to the soft side for both on and off road tires. With knobby's it's pretty simple to just squeeze/push the knobs to test the compound. On a dedicated street tire I recommend going to your local dealer with a Shore A Durometer and test the tires at the top and side of tread so you can make an informed decision.

Longacre makes a really good one but there are cheaper ones as well. Just make sure it is a Shore A rated for tires.

 
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