Ok, I've read through this thread and cant find what car tire in what size has someone tried on a S10? I'm interested in trying a CT on a S10, so it would be good info and relevant to this thread. Apologies if it was in there and I missed it...
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im runing art-k 175/55 17 right now, no mods.... here is a mileage chart with common tire brands
Thanks @sallydog that is good info. I just replaced a 705 in the rear on my S10 at 5200miles and eyeballed it would make it another 500 miles. I had 2300 more miles on the trip, so I did an unplanned rear tire swap with a Mich Commander II. I'll see how long that wears but will keep an eye out to see how many miles you get out of the art-k. Thanks for sharing!
SilverBullet
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I've read this thread before but something just dawned on me. I was stuck last fall out in boondocks of CA with a destroyed tire. Had to wait 2 days and pay overnight freight for tire that only got used to get me home via pavement 2,000 miles.
Duh! duh! duh! (beating my head against the wall) I bet I could have found a car tire to mount and saved myself the wait and $350 in hotel, freight and a one time use tire.
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Duh! duh! duh! (beating my head against the wall) I bet I could have found a car tire to mount and saved myself the wait and $350 in hotel, freight and a one time use tire.
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Longdog Cymru
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Hmmm...... not entirely sure that applies. Early motorcycle tyres were derived from bicycle tyres and as motorcycles and cars evolved in design, purpose and power so design and technology diversified and so did tyres otherwise, we would have a one-size-fits-all approach, and yet we don’t.
Bikedude987
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Just decided to end my experiment with the Economist tire...it just tracks too poorly offroad. If I were a street only guy this would be a great tire (though I seem to have gotten the last one in the US).
If anyone is interested, I could probably ship it somewhere, or come get it free in Flagstaff... Has maybe 500 miles on it.
If anyone is interested, I could probably ship it somewhere, or come get it free in Flagstaff... Has maybe 500 miles on it.
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The point is that people somehow survived riding on tires with square tread profiles and less than optimal designs.
@SilverBullet - That is exactly why a bunch of FJR riders I knew are "darkside ready", but have no particular desire to slap a car tire on any time soon. They know it's an option and have made some crib notes just in case they get stuck. It's harder on the Super Ten, because the narrower wheel would benefit from a narrower tire that is much less common in the US right now. Still, from what the VStrom crowd is showing us, the 205/50-17 can be made to work, even if it doesn't fit my comfort profile.
This is what makes the now available 175/55-17 tires more interesting for those interested in trying the CT themselves.
Side note, WTF is up with every time I find an awesome, long lasting tire, the manufacturer stops making it and comes out with an "improved" version that doesn't hold a candle to the original one??
RCinNC
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Let me guess, Eric....speaking about the Mitas E07?
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Avon Azaro, Mitas E07 Dakar, Conti Road Attacks and more. The Mitas is the latest loss.
GPS Tractionators are going well on the wife's GSA. Only issue has been some cracking between the blocks on the rear 170 width, (what BMW specs). The tire manufacturer basically said the 170 is too wide for the rim width on the GSA and sent us a 150 to try next, saying the 150 is more appropriate for the rim width. That's good, the wife and I can run the same size then.
RCinNC
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The GPS Tractionators are in my shopping cart, to replace the Mitas E07's that are on the bike now. They have almost 9000 miles on them, and I will definitely mourn their passing; they were great tires. I have to get the Tractionators on in the next couple months, so I can ride the MABDR.
I went to Mexico on my Strom with a DS tire knowing it was not likely to last the entire trip, and also knowing I could get it replaced at any tire store along the way - which is exactly what I did...no muss no fuss.
so i found a car tire that feels good.. Bridgestone Potenza 175/55-17 fits better than the economist and rides real nice from mile 1. not a square as others. On the street you wouldnt know it isnt a basic motorcycle tire at 30psi. even has the dakar stripe, rotation mark, and valve stem balance mark. I dont think i will ever go back. ...
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Nice find. Thanks for sharing the info and pics. I shared this info with the FJR forum Darksiders as well.
Cycledude
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So how many miles did it last ?
I'm going to order my second Potenza today. I got 10,550 miles out of the first one.... which is very nice as I was able to finish a 9,000 mile trip without a tire change. I will get a few more miles out of this one as I wait for delivery, but the treads and wear bars are nearly smooth across the tire.
I ran 30 psi for the first 8,000 miles then went down to 25 psi as the middle part of the tire was wearing a bit faster than the rest, that fixed it.
I ran 30 psi for the first 8,000 miles then went down to 25 psi as the middle part of the tire was wearing a bit faster than the rest, that fixed it.
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ballisticexchris
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For those of you who run these, how do you corner? Can you go through canyons? How about tight decreasing radius turns? Off road Jeep trails? Are off road versions of these available?
How do they work in a panic weave to avoid head ons in a mid blind corner (very common occurrence in the mountains)? Do you have to modify the torque arm?
I used to think it was nuts to run these. But a lot of guys seem to be liking them. OTOH, for the life of me I cannot imagine this tire being safe on anything other than a straightaway.
Are there any good videos of bikes operating with these under normal riding conditions?
How do they work in a panic weave to avoid head ons in a mid blind corner (very common occurrence in the mountains)? Do you have to modify the torque arm?
I used to think it was nuts to run these. But a lot of guys seem to be liking them. OTOH, for the life of me I cannot imagine this tire being safe on anything other than a straightaway.
Are there any good videos of bikes operating with these under normal riding conditions?
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ballisticexchris
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You beat me to it!!
If I did a lot of off road, I would stick with the K-60. On rutty roads the DS tire can be annoying, but not much worse than a K-60 on a wet pavement road.
No modification necessary.
I don't know how much they weigh...
On a DS tire you can no longer ride in canyons, decreasing radius turns are extremely difficult, panic maneuvers are simply not possible - just grab your ankles and kiss your butt goodbye.
(I'm kidding)
I have 100,000 + miles on DS tires on 4 different machines, that should say it all.
No modification necessary.
I don't know how much they weigh...
On a DS tire you can no longer ride in canyons, decreasing radius turns are extremely difficult, panic maneuvers are simply not possible - just grab your ankles and kiss your butt goodbye.
(I'm kidding)
I have 100,000 + miles on DS tires on 4 different machines, that should say it all.
I rode with Tombstone following and watching his bike with this tire. Through Yellowstone, over Beartooth pass around plenty of tight hairpin curves. He did just fine. I was impressed.
I switched from the oem battlewings to knobbies-wore them out, switched back to the battlewings- wore them out, and just put knobbies back on.
I love the feel and control of knobbies. The control and feel on gravel and dirt really make this bike feel like a true dual sport-adventure bike to me. For the riding I like to do- knobbies rule.
If I was going on a long cross country mostly paved trip, I would put on a dark side tire in a heartbeat.
I switched from the oem battlewings to knobbies-wore them out, switched back to the battlewings- wore them out, and just put knobbies back on.
I love the feel and control of knobbies. The control and feel on gravel and dirt really make this bike feel like a true dual sport-adventure bike to me. For the riding I like to do- knobbies rule.
If I was going on a long cross country mostly paved trip, I would put on a dark side tire in a heartbeat.