Tenere rider in trouble
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What is the issue, specifically?
Long story, was planning to find the correct thread to explain.
Basically while riding from San Antonio to Houston, I believe I filled up with diesel along the way.
Engine cut out, felt almost as if i was running out of gas. Power stopped immediately.
I pulled over, used a tube to funnel the fuel out of the tank. Got towed by a family friend to their house where I dumped the fuel from the fuel rail.
I tried cleaning the fuel pump, and injectors by hand, and replaced the spark plugs. I then ran the engine without the plugs to clear out any residual diesel. Then reinstalled everything, and the bike would sporadically turn over, but wouldnt hold idle. Also changed the oil for shits.
Today we were able to get the engine to run by pouring gas down the air intake, leading us to believe the issue is fuel intake related.
I replaced the fuel pump, and cleaned the injectors as seen on youtube videos. The bike turns over much more frequently now, but still wont idle.
I'm about at wits end. I'm inclined to send my injectors to a shop to get cleaned, but can't think of what else to try.
Its a 2014 Super Tenere.
Anyways I appreciate any help or advice anyone can provide.
Thanks
Cycledude
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So it starts and runs but won’t idle ? If that’s the case I would take it for a ride maybe it will fix itself after a few miles
How confident are you filled with diesel?
Regardless, I think Cycledude's suggestion is a good one before you tear into or try anything else
Regardless, I think Cycledude's suggestion is a good one before you tear into or try anything else
escapefjrtist
Searching for Dry Roads
Welcome from metro Seattle and sorry to read about the bike issues. Just thinking out loud here...if/when you ride the bike, consider adding either 6 oz of Seafoam OR Chevron/Techron fuel system cleaner to the tank. Might help flush out any remaining diesel in the fuel system.
Good luck!
~G
Good luck!
~G
Squibb
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If it was truly diesel, then I suspect the Lambda/O2 sensor has been damaged, as will the cat. Various ideas abound on the internet, but I reckon the 'Italian tune-up' is the way to go at this stage. Yes, run some Techron or similar through the system, then a good long hard run, using the full rev range, to get the motor /cat as hot as possible in the hope that all the diesel residue can be burnt off. You can expect the cat to get extremely hot, way hotter than normal, during this process burn off process, so try to keep moving to avoid excessive heat sink.
If that fails, get the codes read through the OBD port if it's a late model bike. Pre-2017 the codes can be displayed through the dash.
Let's hope you get lucky.
If that fails, get the codes read through the OBD port if it's a late model bike. Pre-2017 the codes can be displayed through the dash.
Let's hope you get lucky.
Welcome aboard Eulan,
Sorry to hear about you problems, i am moving your thread to the tech-section to keep it clean here and you'll get better results.
From the Netherlands,
Stefan.
Sorry to hear about you problems, i am moving your thread to the tech-section to keep it clean here and you'll get better results.
From the Netherlands,
Stefan.
lund
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Sorry to hear about this, it happens.
Diesel in a gas motor won't hurt it other then give you grieve like your experiencing. Gas in a diesel engine on the other hand is destructive and can cause severe damage.
As some have already mentioned take the bike for a good burn down a highway and the diesel will work its way out. Diesel is more like an oil and requires alot more heat to burn, so use a low octane fuel as it generates more heat then a high oct. fuel which will help clean out the CAT.
Diesel in a gas motor won't hurt it other then give you grieve like your experiencing. Gas in a diesel engine on the other hand is destructive and can cause severe damage.
As some have already mentioned take the bike for a good burn down a highway and the diesel will work its way out. Diesel is more like an oil and requires alot more heat to burn, so use a low octane fuel as it generates more heat then a high oct. fuel which will help clean out the CAT.
Hi Everyone, and Thanks for the responses.
Sorry, my explanation was a bit off.
It turns over but wont stay running. Pouring fuel down the throttle valves would keep the engine running, leading us to believe it is a fuel related issue.
Today we used an air compressor in the tank, and the engine again ran, so were thinking its an issue with the fuel pressure.
and I'm pretty sure it was diesel as the fuel seemed oily, and didn't evaporate as quickly as gasoline does.
Sorry, my explanation was a bit off.
It turns over but wont stay running. Pouring fuel down the throttle valves would keep the engine running, leading us to believe it is a fuel related issue.
Today we used an air compressor in the tank, and the engine again ran, so were thinking its an issue with the fuel pressure.
and I'm pretty sure it was diesel as the fuel seemed oily, and didn't evaporate as quickly as gasoline does.
Longdog Cymru
Well-Known Member
I’m with Cycledude and Wallkeeper on this, diesel should actually harm anything except maybe the cat. If you can get it running, take it for a ride and that should clean out anything in the system. By the way, when it did run, did you get smoke from the exhaust? If so, then what colour was it?
Some thoughts with a lot of "ifs"
assuming what ever you put into your tank was not just coincidental. It is POSSIBLE that the material was incompatible with whatever gas you had in the tank. If it was, one sign of incompatibility can be cross linking. If that occurred you may have ended up with a bunch of hard jello looking stuff stuck in your filter and pump. If so, you can try running a gallon of Xylene thru the tank and see if that cleans it up. I would not bet any money on the results though, cross linked stuff likes to stay that way. I think the option with the best chance of success is to pull the filter and replace it. It is not a service item but Instructions for doing that can be found elsewhere on the forum
assuming what ever you put into your tank was not just coincidental. It is POSSIBLE that the material was incompatible with whatever gas you had in the tank. If it was, one sign of incompatibility can be cross linking. If that occurred you may have ended up with a bunch of hard jello looking stuff stuck in your filter and pump. If so, you can try running a gallon of Xylene thru the tank and see if that cleans it up. I would not bet any money on the results though, cross linked stuff likes to stay that way. I think the option with the best chance of success is to pull the filter and replace it. It is not a service item but Instructions for doing that can be found elsewhere on the forum
Diesel is very distinct, and easy to identify, not much like it. And 5+ gallons should make it even easier to id. Has the bike been ridden regularly, or is it possible that gas had been sitting in the bike for a long period of time, and went stale?
gv550
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Diesel fuel smells distinctly different than gasoline, shouldn’t be too difficult to to tell the difference. Did you check your gas station receipt? It should say what you bought.
Cycledude
Well-Known Member
If it was diesel it should have had very easily noticeable foam on top when you filled the tank.
Could it have been some biofuel or other crap they sell nowadays? They sell a lot of weird stuff at some petrolstations around here.
Xclimation
Well-Known Member
Check vacuum hoses at TB. In particular the lines you use when balancing the throttle bodies. Battery still strong? No error codes popping up?