Super Tenere vs Moto Guzzi V85 TT ?
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ballisticexchris
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I sat on one at the motorcycle show. They have quite a following. The quality is second to none. Very well built. Time will tell how reliable they are in harsh conditions.
nwrider
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I test rode a V85TT in Portland on Friday. It's a nice bike and a fair amount smaller overall than the Tenere'. I have a 2014 Tenere' to compare it to. I'd guess that the Guzzi is about 50 - 75# lighter comparably equipped. The route we rode wasn't very illuminating - in town, no curves and just a brief sprint up to about 60 mph in 4th gear. The engine seemed to be pretty flexble but happiest at 3500rpm and up and quite responsive to throttle. Suspension seemed to be very good -- compliant over rough pavement. My impression was that the Tenere' has more leg room - larger cockpit area. I was ready to put a deposit down prior to my test ride. I've decided to take a wait and see attitude and try to get a ride on one if one of my Guzzi friends ends up with one as my perception was that the footpegs were too far back creating more of a knee bend than I'd like. Although, the seat to footpeg distance is about the same as the Tenere' on the high setting. BTW I have a 32" inseam and at 74 yrs old not as flexible as I used to be. Lot's of comparisons posted on ADVRIDER and Wildguzzi.
Also sat on one at a show and was on the fence but have decided to wait as well.
gv550
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My buddy bought a new Guzzi V7 last fall and the bike broke on his way home from the dealer, I rescued him and trailered the bike back to the dealer next morning. Dealer fixed it and he actually got all the way home the next day, but day 3 it broke again. That bike spent 2 weeks of his first 3 weeks of ownership in the shop. Considering the known reliability of all 4 Japanese brands I'd say Guzzi quality is well down the scale.
2talltoo
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I like the looks but do the cylinders put off significant heat?
nwrider
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I've ridden my Norge in 105 degree heat but the fairing on the Norge helps deflect the airflow from the cylinders away from your legs. Also, you can pivot your knee to the outside occasionally to "cool" off if needed. Wearing insulated pants helps. My Buell XB12XT puts out more heat into the frame and is more of a factor than the Guzzi.
2talltoo
Well-Known Member
Interesting, I came from a 2015 1200 GSA that on a hot day was hot around town and noticed on hot days some of the old BMW guys were not that fired up to ride. The Tenere has never bothered me for heat on some extremely warm days. I ask because that Guzzi interests me too but I would rather have a 700 Tenere like most of these guys.
With the shaft and lighter weight, this is what I want. Plus, I've always had an itch to own a Goose.
I'm sure the aftermarket will quickly figure out heat shields and such.
I'm sure the aftermarket will quickly figure out heat shields and such.
Nikolajsen
"Keep it simple"
Yes, it sure looks interesting.
But I have some bad feeling about the electronics, and the abbility to last....
AND in Denmark it is about 8000$ cheaper than our S10.. (yes..8000$...50000 danish coin
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But I have some bad feeling about the electronics, and the abbility to last....
AND in Denmark it is about 8000$ cheaper than our S10.. (yes..8000$...50000 danish coin
)from what I read so far Guzi are very reliable, guys done 100's kilometers without a problems.Yes, it sure looks interesting.
But I have some bad feeling about the electronics, and the abbility to last....
AND in Denmark it is about 8000$ cheaper than our S10.. (yes..8000$...50000 danish coin
Air cooling for me huge benefit, nothing to leak and weight saving.
I was concerned about dry clutch but it's not like Ducati clutch, it's more like car clutch, very tough.
Nikolajsen
"Keep it simple"
Okay, sounds very interesting.
Have just seen some review on youtube, almost only good review.
And I did notice that when putting it in "offroad" mode, the ABS on rear wheel automatic disengage, AND also the approx. 85% of the TCS.
One guy did say though, that it needed some rpm. to really pull, he said 4000-6000 rpm, a bit more than the S10..
Have just seen some review on youtube, almost only good review.
And I did notice that when putting it in "offroad" mode, the ABS on rear wheel automatic disengage, AND also the approx. 85% of the TCS.
One guy did say though, that it needed some rpm. to really pull, he said 4000-6000 rpm, a bit more than the S10..
Blah....blah....blah....blah....
FrontRangeRider
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I've got a 2016 Moto Guzzi Griso. Same engine as the Stelvio (1200 cc adventure bike). Unlike the fellow with the V7 mentioned above, I've had no problems with my bike in 3,000 miles. Hardly an endorsement for long term reliability but I never worry about taking it for long rides. Maintenance is easy; adjusting the valves and synching the throttle bodies can be done in 30 minutes. Since I don't have luggage on it, it is my bike for day rides.
I love the Griso and have considered buying a Stelvio if the time came to replace the Tenere. I'd be more interested in the V85 if it came with tubeless tires. Also, from what I've read, the legroom might be a little cramped for my size (6'1"); I'm quite fond of the comfort of my S10. I'd need to sit on and ride one before I could decide whether it was a fit.
I love the Griso and have considered buying a Stelvio if the time came to replace the Tenere. I'd be more interested in the V85 if it came with tubeless tires. Also, from what I've read, the legroom might be a little cramped for my size (6'1"); I'm quite fond of the comfort of my S10. I'd need to sit on and ride one before I could decide whether it was a fit.
Antanas
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Old mistakes that BMW already fixed like dry clutch and air cooling never works on sand , stones and deep off-road. Guzzy makes them again.
WJBertrand
Ventura Highway
I dunno if one can consider reliability separately from quality? To me reliability is the biggest and most important part of quality. A gorgeous paint job, beautiful machined hardware and exquisite assembly don't mean anything to me if I'm broken down on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere.
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ballisticexchris
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That's why I did not purchase a BMW. And the cost of parts. My point was the build quality of the V85 TT I looked at was top notch. What's surprising is the quality of the Super Tenere. I have been reminded of how nice of a bike it is and the top notch fasteners. hardware, suspension, etc.
DamMechanic
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The older I get, I’ll take the wife of questionable beauty if she has a good job, doesn’t care what I buy, takes care of ALL the house duties both outside and in the bedroom. I can put up with a questionable bike because it can be fixed way cheaper!