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Grumpy said:
When I first got the bike (used) I took my main torque wrench to the spokes and found many took more than half a turn before the click. I have just bought the Topeak 6nm kit. Nice and small and can live under the seat, so if I am away on a long trip I can give them a quick check before anything nasty happens

Can you access all the nipple sockets easily? I had to use a hex ball-tipped extension to get in there.
 

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Grumpy said:
When I first got the bike (used) I took my main torque wrench to the spokes and found many took more than half a turn before the click. I have just bought the Topeak 6nm kit. Nice and small and can live under the seat, so if I am away on a long trip I can give them a quick check before anything nasty happens

That looks neat, have a link for it? I use a 1/4 drive torque when and a long ball ended hex drive but that looks like it'll easily fit. I too was surprised how quickly they come loose, more so if you ride off road, I've cable tied mine do if one comes lose I won't lose it.
 

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Time to re-post this to show the safety wire loosely tying the spokes together at the crossing points. It would have been better if done at the cross closer to the hub, as the idea is not to put a load on them, just to keep them from flailing if the nipple comes off. Using small ty-wraps works fine for this, too.





fwiw - Old pic from my 1st Tenere tied down in 6'3" bed of a Nissan Frontier. Grooves in brake rotor are visible. The red is just pinstripe tape from a car parts store and after a couple of weeks it was pretty impervious to rocks.
 

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Checkswrecks said:
It would have been better if done at the cross closer to the hub, as the idea is not to put a load on them, just to keep them from flailing if the nipple comes off.
Seems wrong to me. The closer to the rim would seem to stop flaying better. Now closer to hub would seem to impact wheel balance less.

That said Bob (wrecker checker) is the safety expert.
 

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BigBob said:
Seems wrong to me. The closer to the rim would seem to stop flaying better. Now closer to hub would seem to impact wheel balance less.

That said Bob (wrecker checker) is the safety expert.

Either crossing ought to work and I'm sure not re-doing what I have. I simply looked at the picture and thought that if I'd done it closer to the hub, it would be closer to where the nipple comes off and the spoke would be more restrained.
 

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WJBertrand said:
Can you access all the nipple sockets easily? I had to use a hex ball-tipped extension to get in there.
This is it at the front, probably the most difficult to access. It is not a ratchet and is only for the final nip-up, you hear a "click" and stop. I have it so I can give the spokes a tap test and if one sounds dull, do a roadside adjustment. And a pair of pliers or similar to turn the hex wrench ;)



Being in the UK I got mine from:
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/topeak-torqbox-nano-nm/rp-prod157675?gs=1&utm_source=google&utm_term=&utm_campaign=Chain+Reaction-UK-PLA-PLA-All-DT-SE-Shopping+QLB+Manufacturer+Desktop&utm_medium=base&utm_content=mkwid|s529sIti1_dc|pcrid|161845658788|pkw||pmt||prd|577003UK

Or this one for global store finder.

https://www.topeak.com/global/en/products/torq-tools/842-nano-torqbox-dx
 

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Checkswrecks said:
Either crossing ought to work and I'm sure not re-doing what I have. I simply looked at the picture and thought that if I'd done it closer to the hub, it would be closer to where the nipple comes off and the spoke would be more restrained.
I stand corrected. Thanks Bob.
 

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Grumpy said:
This is it at the front, probably the most difficult to access. It is not a ratchet and is only for the final nip-up, you hear a "click" and stop. I have it so I can give the spokes a tap test and if one sounds dull, do a roadside adjustment. And a pair of pliers or similar to turn the hex wrench ;)



Being in the UK I got mine from:
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/topeak-torqbox-nano-nm/rp-prod157675?gs=1&utm_source=google&utm_term=&utm_campaign=Chain+Reaction-UK-PLA-PLA-All-DT-SE-Shopping+QLB+Manufacturer+Desktop&utm_medium=base&utm_content=mkwid|s529sIti1_dc|pcrid|161845658788|pkw||pmt||prd|577003UK

Or this one for global store finder.

https://www.topeak.com/global/en/products/torq-tools/842-nano-torqbox-dx
Thanks, so the back end has a hex socket in it?


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WJBertrand said:
Thanks, so the back end has a hex socket in it?


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Yep. I use a ball ended 'T' handle to check mine when I replace tires. They have settled in now.
 

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Grumpy said:
This is it at the front, probably the most difficult to access. It is not a ratchet and is only for the final nip-up, you hear a "click" and stop. I have it so I can give the spokes a tap test and if one sounds dull, do a roadside adjustment. And a pair of pliers or similar to turn the hex wrench ;)



Being in the UK I got mine from:
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/topeak-torqbox-nano-nm/rp-prod157675?gs=1&utm_source=google&utm_term=&utm_campaign=Chain+Reaction-UK-PLA-PLA-All-DT-SE-Shopping+QLB+Manufacturer+Desktop&utm_medium=base&utm_content=mkwid|s529sIti1_dc|pcrid|161845658788|pkw||pmt||prd|577003UK

Or this one for global store finder.

https://www.topeak.com/global/en/products/torq-tools/842-nano-torqbox-dx
Great stuff ::008:: just ordered my little set ... use Chain Reaction for much of my mountain bike stuff and always a good service.
 

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BigBob said:
Seems wrong to me. The closer to the rim would seem to stop flaying better. Now closer to hub would seem to impact wheel balance less.

That said Bob (wrecker checker) is the safety expert.
Won't effect the balance if you do every spoke.
 

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limey said:
Won't effect the balance if you do every spoke.
Even for the most OCD among us, I don't think a handful of plastic zip ties is going to be measurable in terms of balance. :)
 

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EricV said:
Even for the most OCD among us, I don't think a handful of plastic zip ties is going to be measurable in terms of balance. :)
As long as you use a Vernier to measure each one.
 
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Very cool!! At the rate my spokes are taking to bed in I might have to buy this tool for when traveling.

Back in the day before tiewraps we would do up the spokes with safety wire.


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That's what I always do. Zip ties on spokes are too cheesy and break in the desert. You end up losing the spoke anyway. I have not done it on my Super Tenere. It will not prevent the nipples from getting lost so not worth the effort.
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Very cool!! At the rate my spokes are taking to bed in I might have to buy this tool for when traveling.



That's what I always do. Zip ties on spokes are too cheesy and break in the desert. You end up losing the spoke anyway. I have not done it on my Super Tenere. It will not prevent the nipples from getting lost so not worth the effort.
The nipple doesn't matter, the main reason for the zip ties is to keep the broken spoke from beating the hell out of the swingarm before you get stopped.
 
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