removing both tires on my super tenere at once

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I take off both wheels and bring them to the local shop where they don't charge for installation. My method uses the center stand as mentioned several times, except I lift up the front using a ratchet strap to the garage rafters. I leave clearance all around the bike in case the unthinkable were to happen (earthquake :)).
 

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This is my way of removing both wheels at once. Went to an international motorcycle show years ago in Chicago and they were demonstrating and selling these. I believe they go by Easy Lift. Any way I sat down with paper and pencil for most of an hour and made a drawing with dimensions and went back home and made my own. Works absolutely fantastic. Used it on 4 of my bikes. Just had to make or modify some of my brackets.
 

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That's some excellent craftsmanship...nice job! I love the drill driven lifting system.

I'm curious though, is the skid plate bearing the entire load of the bike being suspended, or is there some other attachment point that I can't see?
 

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You guys are suppose to be talking me out of this with horror stories about how hard it is. Some dang friends you are.
It's not that hard with a few good tools. Technique is learned, but watch some Youtube vids and read some stuff and you'll get a clue. There are threads on this forum about doing your own tire changes.

Who are you people with exposed rafters in your garages!! :D I haven't had that luxury in any house I've ever lived in. Here is another idea for making an inexpensive front end stand to hold the bike up when removing both wheels. It works well, I know the fellow that posted the info and pictures. LINK
 
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These tires are super duper easy to change. Almost easier than a bicycle tire!!! I have been doing UHD tubes and double rim locks for years. This being tubeless makes it simple. OTOH, I don't like them at all for a reliable off road tire. Tubed tires are still the king for off highway travel. I'm always very aware of getting a sidewall cut in the rocks. That will end your day with a tubeless.

These rocks are just like a bunch of razor blades ready to destroy the sidewall. Yet another reason to know how to change your own tire. Also to note is the rear wheel is much simpler to remove and replace on the Super Tenere than a traditional chain drive. Nothing to line up. Slap it in and tighten it down.
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It's not that hard with a few good tools. Technique is learned, but watch some Youtube vids and read some stuff and you'll get a clue. There are threads on this forum about doing your own tire changes.

Who are you people with exposed rafters in your garages!! :D I haven't had that luxury in any house I've ever lived in. Here is another idea for making an inexpensive front end stand to hold the bike up when removing both wheels. It works well, I know the fellow that posted the info and pictures. LINK
I've changed a zillion tires on cars ,some by hand when the machine went down So sure its easier than that. Ive always worried about the balance, but seems to not be an issue. Ill think hard about it when its time to do the job in a few months.

Garage porn for you..... Think the 15x4 beam will hold the front end of my T? hah!

 

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Garage porn for you..... Think the 15x4 beam will hold the front end of my T? hah!
I had to cut a hole in the sheet rock and install another beam to have a chain hoist in my house in OR. I don't get why people finish garages, but the wife seems to like it. ;)
 

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This is my way of removing both wheels at once. Went to an international motorcycle show years ago in Chicago and they were demonstrating and selling these. I believe they go by Easy Lift. Any way I sat down with paper and pencil for most of an hour and made a drawing with dimensions and went back home and made my own. Works absolutely fantastic. Used it on 4 of my bikes. Just had to modify or make sy some of my brackets.
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That's some excellent craftsmanship...nice job! I love the drill driven lifting system.

I'm curious though, is the skid plate bearing the entire load of the bike being suspended, or is there some other attachment point that I can't see?
Yes it rests on the skid plate. No harm done those things are very beefy. If you look closely it also mounts to the kick stand to keep it from tipping over. 2 of my other bikes a Yamaha fz1 and a seca rested right on the header
 

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The skid plate on mine is beefy too, but it's not the skid plate that makes me nervous about putting the weight of the bike on it; it's the attachment points. Mine has a single bolt at the rear of the plate that screws into the aluminum of the engine, where the sump is located. I never liked putting the whole 700 pounds of the bike onto that bolt and the two flimsy front attachment points that bolt to the covers on the sides of the engine, and just wondered if you had a different way of lifting the bike.
 

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The skid plate on mine is beefy too, but it's not the skid plate that makes me nervous about putting the weight of the bike on it; it's the attachment points. Mine has a single bolt at the rear of the plate that screws into the aluminum of the engine, where the sump is located. I never liked putting the whole 700 pounds of the bike onto that bolt and the two flimsy front attachment points that bolt to the covers on the sides of the engine, and just wondered if you had a different way of lifting the bike.
Let's say I wouldn't want my bike to come off a jump and land 700lbs of bike on the skid plate. That shock is totally different than just picking it up with no shock involved.
 

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A few weeks ago in BCS Mexico I needed to change both tires out. OBT, center stand, truck jack & rock. Stayed solid. Did both tires, reassembled. I took them both off because the original plan was to take them into La Paz about an hour north and have a moto shop change them out. When I arrived - I was told the machine was broken. Went home and did it with OBTs. Just make sure it's stable. The AltRider bash plate has 4 bolts upfront - no worry about the front end distributed weight on them.

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Empty the tank, throw some cardboard on the ground, and lay the bike on it's right side* dirt-bike style.

*The right because the rear axle comes out to the left and the front won't be that close to the ground.
 

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Empty the tank, throw some cardboard on the ground, and lay the bike on it's right side* dirt-bike style.

*The right because the rear axle comes out to the left and the front won't be that close to the ground.
Am I missing something?

The rear axle comes out to the *right* side of the bike. And you can't reverse it, the pinch bolt in the swing arm is in that side. If you're going to put the bike on it's side, loosen the pinch bolts first and remove the nut from the left side rear axle first, then put the bike over on it's left side. (i.e. Left being the clutch lever side of the bike, right being the throttle side.)

Laying the bike on the left side lets both axles come out from the "up" side.
 

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Am I missing something?

The rear axle comes out to the *right* side of the bike. And you can't reverse it, the pinch bolt in the swing arm is in that side. If you're going to put the bike on it's side, loosen the pinch bolts first and remove the nut from the left side rear axle first, then put the bike over on it's left side. (i.e. Left being the clutch lever side of the bike, right being the throttle side.)

Laying the bike on the left side lets both axles come out from the "up" side.
Whoops - Am not looking at the bike so did that by memory. Good catch.
 

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….but that rock and jack combo looks like an oh-sh*t moment in the making. :oops:
I know it would be for me. I did the same style, but with a floor jack, and 2 x 6. And, I agree, ya' gotta use, what ya' gotta use. But, is that a small surfboard that the center stand is on? Looks like it would tend to wobble.
 

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We all do what we gotta do, but that rock and jack combo looks like an oh-sh*t moment in the making. :oops:
Have used pretty much the same method but I always make sure to securely tie the centerstand forward so it can’t fold up and cause a big dangerous crash ! I happen to use a 3 ton floor jack with wheels. Even when Only removing one wheel I always tie the centerstand forward so it can’t accidentally fold up.
 

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If you're like me and your jack stands can't be extended high enough to reach the crash bars to support the bike, this was my ultra-cheap solution.

One 2x4, a scrap piece of 3/4" plywood (though you could use a piece of 1x8), four long 1/4-20 bolts and eight 1/4" fender washers. The crash bars sit in semi-circle notches cut into the tops of the 2x4's (the notched were cut with a 1" spade bit). The wooden stands are just high enough that you can slip them under the crash bars when you jack up the front of the bike and tilt it backwards, using the center stand as a pivot point. This is high enough to change a tire, though I actually built the stands to hold the front end up while I removed and serviced the forks.

The crossbar helps tie the whole unit together and make it more stable.Front Stand 1.jpgFront Stand 2.jpgFront Stand 3.jpg
 

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LOL Fennellg, you've seen enough of my homemade projects by now to know that I don't fit in with the crowd that buys all their accessories from Touratech. I'm more of a KLR guy with delusions of grandeur.
 
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