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First encounter was in the military when the girls working where forced to do so and the owners would hold onto there passports, beat them or just keep most of there earnings automatically to pay for food and a room. This was south Korea and most of this slavery was created to fill the needs of soldiers. The military knew about it but couldn't do much since these bars still operated like a bar and had military police patrolling. These girls are called juicy girls and this term has been around for 30 years at least. Now state side has something similar near most military bases but it's called a message parlor.
 
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I believe in many States in the USA there are no minimum age for marriage. I do stand to be corrected and am not having a dig.
 

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So, to put this as delicately, and politically correct as possible. Why are we, society in general, worrying about slavery that occurred 155+/- years ago. . . . when we have slavery occurring in the here & now? Human trafficking is a very real problem, and growing, and not going away. And, yet we (society) never hear about it. If/when a person is rescued, are they going to receive a reparations check? I mean, they are the actual person that endured the slavery, not a great, great, great grandchild of the enslaved person.

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Disregarding whether or not reparations are the appropriate remedy for someone who was forcibly enslaved, comparing human trafficking as it occurs now with the organized and government approved enslavement of other humans that occurred in pre-Civil War American (which is what I assume you were referring to with your "155+/- years ago" statement) is absolutely a false equivalency. Contemporary human trafficking is considered a crime; governments around the world have made it so. At least in theory, if not in practice, there is a government agency that a victim of enslavement could turn to for redress if they were a victim of contemporary human trafficking. You can't, with any intellectual honesty, contrast that with the organized slave trade that stains this country's history. The government wasn't there to provide redress for a slave; it was expressly tasked with the exact opposite. The government had a vested interest in maintaining the institution of slavery. There was no government agency that a victim of human trafficking could turn to in 1859 that was at all concerned with his plight. Our Founding Fathers deliberately sidestepped the whole issue of slavery so as to keep the support of the southern states, and in fact, Article 1 of the constitution of the Confederacy deliberately enshrines slavery as a government approved institution. There is a marked difference between current human trafficking and government sanctioned slavery, including the process where agents of the government would hunt down and retrieve runaway slaves and do it under the authority of the law. And the fact is that although slavery itself may have ended (technically) with the Emancipation Proclamation, there was no shortage of continuing attempts by the various governments of the US to continue the process by enacting a plethora of post-Reconstruction Jim Crow laws, redlining, sundown laws, etc. You dismiss it with "it was 155 years ago" , I say that 60 years ago a black guy couldn't sit down at a "whites only" lunch counter in a restaurant in the state I live in now without getting arrested. You say "it was 155 years ago", I say I could easily go find a 75 year old black guy who, during his lifetime, was clubbed into unconsciousness by a Deputy for trying to get registered to vote. Within my own lifetime, there were still "Whites Only" bathrooms, water fountains, restaurants, etc, and I'm only in my mid fifties. There are lots of older black people out there that can recall a time when they were kids when they were legally forbidden the same freedoms as other US citizens. It wasn't "155 years ago", it was yesterday. It wasn't until 1968 that those last shreds of laws that legally enforced a second class status for certain US citizens were abolished. It's ridiculous to believe that the government sanctioned institution of slavery and it's subsequent laws that reduced a segment of society to a legally recognized second tier status wouldn't have repercussions that are reverberating to the present day, so that "get over it, it was 155 years ago" outlook isn't accurate.

As for "no one talks about human trafficking", my anecdotal experience is the exact opposite of yours. I've seen the existence of numerous news articles, documentaries, opinion pieces, etc that are concerned with the subject. If you want to know about it, there are lots of people talking about it.
 

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My rant for the day is we had the sewer line to the septic tank back up. Water jetted it out. Ten days later it does it again. Ran a camera down the line. Big root in the line and under the slab. Ran a rooter in with the camera behind it. At a place under the slab there is no cast iron pipe remaining. It has rusted away for about two and half feet. I am lucky we have some five gallon buckets and the contractor we use can get to this problem in three weeks. I am too old for this stuff. On the plus side I won't worry about the sewer for the rest of my life when we get this fixed.
 

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Disregarding whether or not reparations are the appropriate remedy for someone who was forcibly enslaved, comparing human trafficking as it occurs now with the organized and government approved enslavement of other humans that occurred in pre-Civil War American (which is what I assume you were referring to with your "155+/- years ago" statement) is absolutely a false equivalency. Contemporary human trafficking is considered a crime; governments around the world have made it so. At least in theory, if not in practice, there is a government agency that a victim of enslavement could turn to for redress if they were a victim of contemporary human trafficking. You can't, with any intellectual honesty, contrast that with the organized slave trade that stains this country's history. . . . You dismiss it with "it was 155 years ago" , I say that 60 years ago a black guy couldn't sit down at a "whites only" lunch counter in a restaurant in the state I live in now without getting arrested. You say "it was 155 years ago", I say I could easily go find a 75 year old black guy who, during his lifetime, was clubbed into unconsciousness by a Deputy for trying to get registered to vote. Within my own lifetime, there were still "Whites Only" bathrooms, water fountains, restaurants, etc, and I'm only in my mid fifties. There are lots of older black people out there that can recall a time when they were kids when they were legally forbidden the same freedoms as other US citizens. It wasn't "155 years ago", it was yesterday. . . . so that "get over it, it was 155 years ago" outlook isn't accurate.

As for "no one talks about human trafficking", my anecdotal experience is the exact opposite of yours. I've seen the existence of numerous news articles, documentaries, opinion pieces, etc that are concerned with the subject. If you want to know about it, there are lots of people talking about it.
1) Mainstream media have shown video footage of protesters carry signs with "white people need to pay for their ancestors crimes". Several politicians have supported a study to see what kind of reparations are appropriate. Most, if not all, state have a crime victim compensation fund. For the actual victim.

2) Comparing historical slavery to contemporary slavery is appropriate. Slavery is slavery. I consider contemporary slavery the greater evil. We are supposed to be civilized, and educated.

3) Comparing historical slavery to reprehensible treatment 60-70 years ago is incorrect. They're both wrong, but different animals.

4) I'm in my upper 50s, and have never seen a sign of "whites only". . . . anywhere. . . . except in historical pictures. And, I've lived in numerous states across the country. The fact that you have seen these sign, may explain the disparity in our views.

5) Mainstream media, and that's what most people watch, rarely speaks about human trafficking. The only time is shows up in the news, is when they find a semi-trailer full of deceased victims. Yet, on a daily basis, the news presents articles on racial inequality.

6) "It wasn't "155 years ago", it was yesterday." That's being a little dramatic. Yes, there are still ignorant people that judge people by the color of their skin. But, the fact that America elected a black man as it's president speaks volumes. If it had been a "race thing", he would not have been elected. Less then 14% of the US population is "black". In 2008, Barrack Obama received just under 53%; in 2012, just over 51%.

"I" can honestly say that I have NEVER judged a person by the color of their skin. If I don't like you, it's what's on the inside. . . . not the outside. My point of this rant, is that there is a great deal of anger over historical slavery, while contemporary slavery receives nowhere near the attention. Obviously you and I will never see eye-to-eye on this subject. That's fine, we'll keep our conversations on the T7 & T12; or any other topic. :)
 

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My rant for the day is we had the sewer line to the septic tank back up. Water jetted it out. Ten days later it does it again. Ran a camera down the line. Big root in the line and under the slab. Ran a rooter in with the camera behind it. At a place under the slab there is no cast iron pipe remaining. It has rusted away for about two and half feet. I am lucky we have some five gallon buckets and the contractor we use can get to this problem in three weeks. I am too old for this stuff. On the plus side I won't worry about the sewer for the rest of my life when we get this fixed.
I feel your pain, that sucks. Had the root problem at a former house, and dealt with almost exactly the same problem when I worked for a small city. The line for one of the parks restrooms always got clogged during little league games. Roots, OMG, so many roots. When they rootered it out, they broke the pvc pipe and we had to dig it all out and re-do it. Went mostly ok until we got to a point where kids had dug it up and broken the pipe in the past. Some rocket scientist decided to put a patch in, then cover it all in concrete. Boss wouldn't let us connect the new line to that small stretch of old line, so we had to dig it all out on the side of a steep hill. No way to use the mini-Ex. Long, hot, stanky day that was.

I hope you get sorted quicker than expected.
 

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I got lucky as far as my sewer system. I have a septic tank, and lateral line, leach field, or what ever it's called in the various parts of the country. Purely by accident, there aren't any tree, anywhere near. I just have to make sure nothing gets driven over the lateral lines. I don't think that they're not deep enough, but no sense tempting fate. I'm also a huge fan of RID-X. Works as advertised.
 

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I believe in many States in the USA there are no minimum age for marriage. I do stand to be corrected and am not having a dig.
The general age for marriage in the US is 18. That covers 40 of the 50 states, there are some lower ages for marriage w/o parental consent, Alaska, for example its 14. A few states it's actually higher. Mississippi has the age at 21, which surprised me. I didn't grow up here. More info HERE:
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1) Mainstream media have shown video footage of protesters carry signs with "white people need to pay for their ancestors crimes". Several politicians have supported a study to see what kind of reparations are appropriate. Most, if not all, state have a crime victim compensation fund. For the actual victim.

I'm unclear what point it is that you're trying to make in response to what I said in my post. The fact that you've seen video footage of white people with signs demanding reparations has nothing to do with the comparison I made between institutional slavery and contemporary human trafficking. I specifically said in the beginning of my post that I was disregarding the issue of reparations, because any proposed issue about reparations has nothing to do with the historical impact that government sponsored slavery had on this country.

2) Comparing historical slavery to contemporary slavery is appropriate. Slavery is slavery. I consider contemporary slavery the greater evil. We are supposed to be civilized, and educated.

No, it's not an appropriate comparison. You're comparing the outlawed organized crime activities of individuals with the historical legally sanctioned and government supported enslavement of human beings. If a victim of human trafficking escapes her captors and goes to a law enforcement agency, they can intervene and help. Under the Dred Scott decision, the government held that slaves weren't even citizens of the US, and could claim no rights under the Constitution, and had to be returned as property to their captors, where they could be tortured as punishment for the escape, which the government supported. Claiming that those two scenarios of human trafficking vs government sponsored slavery are coequal requires an Olympic degree of historical myopia.

3) Comparing historical slavery to reprehensible treatment 60-70 years ago is incorrect. They're both wrong, but different animals.
Where do I make the comparison and say that the two things were coequal? I said that following the Reconstruction, the government continued the process of enacting laws designed to disenfranchise black Americans and deny them their rights as full citizens. They may not have been legally owned anymore, but their movements, where they lived, who they could marry, whether they could vote, were very much legally controlled by governments solely for the purpose of disenfranchising them. All of those post Reconstruction laws regarding the rights of black Americans were a response to the now illegal institution of slavery: "we can't own you any more, but we sure as hell aren't going to let you participate in the same rights that every other American has by birthright".

4) I'm in my upper 50s, and have never seen a sign of "whites only". . . . anywhere. . . . except in historical pictures. And, I've lived in numerous states across the country. The fact that you have seen these sign, may explain the disparity in our views.


The fact that you've never seen a "whites only " sign except in historical photos may shape your ideas, but your personal experiences have zero effect on the reality of those signs for millions of Americans who saw them every day and who had to live under the laws that created them. Whether or not you've personally experienced them, if you were born sometime prior to July 2, 1964, you were alive at the same time that they existed, and anyone who drove across the southern US from Louisiana to North Carolina in the early 1960s would have seen them in abundance. There are plenty of people still alive right now who experienced that first hand, regardless of your experiences.

5) Mainstream media, and that's what most people watch, rarely speaks about human trafficking. The only time is shows up in the news, is when they find a semi-trailer full of deceased victims. Yet, on a daily basis, the news presents articles on racial inequality.

Well, I can't argue this point, since I haven't done the research to determine how many stories on human trafficking were produced on mainstream media throughout the entire US in, say, the past year, and since I don't want to throw around vague terms like "rare" or "many", we're just going to both have to wallow in our own confirmation bias.

6) "It wasn't "155 years ago", it was yesterday." That's being a little dramatic. Yes, there are still ignorant people that judge people by the color of their skin. But, the fact that America elected a black man as it's president speaks volumes. If it had been a "race thing", he would not have been elected. Less then 14% of the US population is "black". In 2008, Barrack Obama received just under 53%; in 2012, just over 51%.

Nowhere in my post did I touch on the issue of racism; you're creating a strawman to argue against. You made the point that these events happened 155 years ago, with the statement "Why are we, society in general, worrying about slavery that occurred 155+/- years ago. . . . when we have slavery occurring in the here & now?" It's certainly not a leap to infer from that you consider the events of 155 years ago to be less relevant because they happened in the dim dark past; I pointed out that those same attitudes that allowed slavery to flourish in this country didn't end 155 years ago; they were still being codified as law in the United States as late as your lifetime. 1964 is most decidedly not the dim dark irrelevant past, it's 55 years ago. There are still people alive NOW that experienced the reality that they could be arrested for drinking water from a fountain meant for white people. If you think it's "dramatic" that up until the recent past an American citizen could be charged with the specific crime of being a black person where he shouldn't be, then ok, I'll accept your labeling, as long as you're willing to accept that same "dramatic" label next time you're upset because you feel that your Second Amendment rights are being infringed on.

Obviously you and I will never see eye-to-eye on this subject. That's fine, we'll keep our conversations on the T7 & T12; or any other topic.

That works for me.
 

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I got lucky as far as my sewer system. I have a septic tank, and lateral line, leach field, or what ever it's called in the various parts of the country. Purely by accident, there aren't any tree, anywhere near. I just have to make sure nothing gets driven over the lateral lines. I don't think that they're not deep enough, but no sense tempting fate. I'm also a huge fan of RID-X. Works as advertised.
We have been advised to use RootX as it kills roots on contact if used as directed. I try to look at things on the bright side. A sewer line fiasco in August sure beats the heck out of one happening in February.
 

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We have been advised to use RootX as it kills roots on contact if used as directed. I try to look at things on the bright side. A sewer line fiasco in August sure beats the heck out of one happening in February.
I would imagine that frozen poo would be far less stinky than viscous poo...I base this solely on having watched every episode of Dirty Jobs.
 

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In 1776 we were 13 separate colonies, not a country. England signed a treaty with 13 separate entities. There was no federal government which was causing numerous problems especially economic, such as separate currencies and trade laws. It took 11 years before we had a constitution that united these colonies into a country with a federal government. The USA did not begin until 1787, not 1776. To get to that the founding fathers tried to end slavery and titles (something that created a class system in the rest of the world) but it failed by one vote. One. At the same time a Bill of Rights was demanded by some of the framers in order to get the Constitution through. They knew slavery was a problem that had to be settled but the emergency of the day was to get everyone together. We had just humiliated the greatest power on the planet with the help of the second (France) which lost their war with England and it was a matter of time before we would be forced back to bowing and scraping to a bunch of entitled inbred "royals". Which is what could have happened in 1812. We got lucky.

As for another check after over 50 years of money, housing, food, health care, government set asides and other handouts? NO. I don't them anything.
 

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I'm unclear what point it is that you're trying to make in response to what I said in my post. The fact that you've seen video footage of white people with signs demanding reparations
That's not at all what was written.
 

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So. . . . last month I had Discount Tire do the tire rotation on the Jeep. Last week I found one of the tires losing air. Went back to Discount Tire to get it fixed up. They called and told me that one of the lug nuts were cross threaded, and they were going to have to force it off. When I returned to the store, I was told that the lug nuts that they had installed back in '12, had been replace by a different brand. Apparently, the original brand has a tendency to cross thread on Mopar products. Afterward, they sent me to a mechanic shop two towns over to have the lug bolt replaced. Scheduled the appointment, got the bolt fixed. Then, I had to go back to Discount Tire to get a set of the replacement lug nuts to replace the defective ones, because they were out of stock the day I was there.

As I'm switching out the lug nuts, I discover that the mechanic that fixed the first lug bolt, had cross threaded another lug nut/bolt. I initially thought they had cross threaded all of that wheel's lug nut/bolts, due to how much force I had to use to loosen the nut. Luckily, the nuts were only waaaay over torqued. Baaaack to the mechanic to replace the newly damaged nut/bolt. I told them just to replace the bolt, and I would put the nut on at the recommended torque. They told me that they could do that since they had a torque wrench. o_O Recommended is 95ft lbs. . . . my guess is that they had the impact wrench dialed up to somewhere around 200ft lbs. Since it was 105 degrees, I let them do their thing. I'll re-do them tomorrow before it gets hot again.

Technically, this whole fiasco didn't cost me anything. . . . besides gas and time. But, if I had done the rotate myself. . . . a lot less time, and gas, would have been wasted. It's frustrating when nobody seems to take pride in their work. Not theirs. . . .don't care.
 

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Speaking of the sewer issues. I was bush hogging a couple years ago and saw a sink hole where my D box should have been. Sure enough it had fell in. I am sure the power line people drove over it but hey that was not provable. I dug it up and the box was fine but the top was crushed. Of course it was discontinued. So i made a form and mixed the concrete and made a new top. but there were tree roots that were working their way in. I cleaned that out and looked at the trees i had to get rid of. A week later i took vacation and cut trees. Of course the saw was giving me trouble. Any way i got the trees down and they were big. It was dry and i checked there was not a burn ban in my county. It still scared me so i put a water tank in the truck and i got a gas powered water pump and hoses for the creek next to where i would be burning. I cut ever thing down to 6 to 8 foot long and only piled on small amounts. Of course wouldn't you know it i had a new neighbor that didn't know his @$$ from a hole in the ground and thought he owned where i was working and gave me all kinds of hell for burning when there was a burn ban. but like i said i checked and all was good to go on that. I was just trying to get a job that had to be done finished. It turned real ugly to say the least. I did get my sewer fixed and the trees out of play and the mess cleaned up. things went down hill with the dumb @$$ next to me. he would throw trash all over my place take my posts out and gates out and cut my trees. After a couple of visits by the law who did nothing but annoy him he has settled down some. Of course i did try to be neighborly and i pulled him out of a ditch and graded some gravel back up in the drive for him a couple times but that said i still don't like him. He mistreats his animals and just isn't a very nice person. Oh wait i was ranting about my sewer wasn't I? Oh well it is a rant post so that is all that counts. Hope you all have a great day even with your rants!
 

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Speaking of the sewer issues. I was bush hogging a couple years ago and saw a sink hole where my D box should have been. Sure enough it had fell in. I am sure the power line people drove over it but hey that was not provable. I dug it up and the box was fine but the top was crushed. Of course it was discontinued. So i made a form and mixed the concrete and made a new top. but there were tree roots that were working their way in. I cleaned that out and looked at the trees i had to get rid of. A week later i took vacation and cut trees. Of course the saw was giving me trouble. Any way i got the trees down and they were big. It was dry and i checked there was not a burn ban in my county. It still scared me so i put a water tank in the truck and i got a gas powered water pump and hoses for the creek next to where i would be burning. I cut ever thing down to 6 to 8 foot long and only piled on small amounts. Of course wouldn't you know it i had a new neighbor that didn't know his @$$ from a hole in the ground and thought he owned where i was working and gave me all kinds of hell for burning when there was a burn ban. but like i said i checked and all was good to go on that. I was just trying to get a job that had to be done finished. It turned real ugly to say the least. I did get my sewer fixed and the trees out of play and the mess cleaned up. things went down hill with the dumb @$$ next to me. he would throw trash all over my place take my posts out and gates out and cut my trees. After a couple of visits by the law who did nothing but annoy him he has settled down some. Of course i did try to be neighborly and i pulled him out of a ditch and graded some gravel back up in the drive for him a couple times but that said i still don't like him. He mistreats his animals and just isn't a very nice person. Oh wait i was ranting about my sewer wasn't I? Oh well it is a rant post so that is all that counts. Hope you all have a great day even with your rants!
Wow!
 

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Since a couple of you have web-sites and blogs too, it may be worth sharing a shake-down I'm currently struggling with.

When setting up my site a year ago, I used photos of things I'd been involved with and one was of an airplane after a foreign accident. I'm pretty sure I took the photo and definitely was a part of the Government investigation. As usual, the Govt (in this case a foreign one) provided a lot of our photos to the press because media are not allowed on accident sites and while governments do not copyright photos and retains usage rights, the press MAY copyright them when they do distribution. When I made my site, I used a copy of that photo off the web and knew enough to not use one with a copyright marking. So I took the photo, it was a Govt photo, and the one I used had no marks. What could go wrong?

Fast forward and I recently got a copyright infringement notice with a claim for $710 from a Canadian company called PicRights. While first thinking this is a scam, then Googling after their 3rd notice and threat of legal action by their California partner Higbee & Associates, it turns out this is a very legal shake-down. PicRights has a web-crawler that searches for use of photos published by Agence France Press (AFP) and AFP had published the same Govt photo I used. It doesn't matter to them if mine has no marking or not, they have claimed copyright and I just joined a long list of other victims in this. It turns out that people have taken PicRights to court and LOST!!!
https://copyright-demand-letter.com/picrights-ltd-copyright-letters-making-noise-in-the-us/#comment-839

These ass-wipes are so prolific and this is so crazy that there is a competing legal group just to fight them!
https://copyright-demand-letter.com/higbee-associates-copyright/

As a result, I ended up re-populating my website with almost entirely new photos that I can show source on, mainly from Government dockets (I took and placed almost every one there) or my own personal photos. I've also asked the foreign Government for a release on the photo to hopefully negate this whole claim, but if they can't get back by the due date, my other half who is a lawyer says that the best outcome will be to just ought to negotiate a settlement (guessing around $350-400?), pay up, and move on.

Bottom line is to be extremely aware of the photos you are using on your web-sites and blogs, because knowingly being raped SUCKS.

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I have a "friend" that comes up with web site names, and then copyrights them. Then he waits for people to start a web site, and use the name he "invented". Same type of thing. People work hard to not work, than if they would just do the work.
 
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