Problems shifting - Lube shifter and brake pivot

[limey]

Good man.

 

[OldRider]

Got it out with channel locks, I'll be damn.........

 

[yoyo]

? ? ? ?

I'm guessing the threadlock, very naughty not having a spot of paint on the bolt to show it's threadlocked, unless a previous owner put it on there?

It's out, that's all that matters!

 

[OldRider]

I'm guessing the threadlock, very naughty not having a spot of paint on the bolt to show it's threadlocked, unless a previous owner put it on there?

It's out, that's all that matters!

You can clean the bolt and shifter up and grease it real well and in a year or two, less if you ride in mud and water and it will have to be cleaned and greased again. This same pivot bolt is used in scores of Yamaha's and they all need attention every once in a while.

 

[cavenger]

I think the previous owner put the thread lock on... Just a guess. The channel locks did not work on the bolt until I pounded it out of there with a hammer and vise grips. There was no way anyone would have had the hand strength to get it out. Now, I did not have a torch to heat it up but I did use a heat gun.

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[jbrown]

I'm the original owner of my bike, and there was locking compound there on my bike. I have to lube that pivot several times a year to keep it shifting well.

I think the previous owner put the thread lock on... Just a guess. The channel locks did not work on the bolt until I pounded it out of there with a hammer and vise grips. There was no way anyone would have had the hand strength to get it out. Now, I did not have a torch to heat it up but I did use a heat gun.

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[yoyo]

I'm the original owner of my bike, and there was locking compound there on my bike. I have to lube that pivot several times a year to keep it shifting well.

That's good to know, my bike is a year old now so I'd better get it off and give it some lube, will get some heat on there first.

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[RonH]

It just looks like blue loctite, which is not all that hard to break loose. They use it all over the motorcycle. Get better tools it will come off real easy every time. Those L shape Allen wrenches are not going to work at all. No leverage.
Best to get impact sockets, and doesn't hurt to have an air impact tool. Harbor Freight sells the Earthquake air impacts in 3/8 and 1/2" drive, and they will not disappoint. Would have had that bolt off in less than 2 seconds.

 

[taskmaster86]

There should be a drop or two of blue Loctite on those threads! You do not want that bolt coming loose while you are riding! Buy a quality 3/8 inch Allen head socket that fits properly and everything will be fine.

When you do the grease job, clean out all the old stuff, thoroughly pack the drum with a good quality water proof grease, add a drop or two of blue Loctite on the threads and screw it back in, just snug with your ratchet. Do not crank on it, don't grunt and don't force it.

I lubed my shifter pivot this way when I first got the bike over two years ago and it has been buttery smooth ever since. I am 100% confident it will come right out when I am ready to take it apart again.

 

[S10 Aus]

Just a quick thank you to checkswrecks, It never crossed my mind to lube the shifter & brake pivots until I read this forum. So, I disassembled both, the joints were dry ???!!!
A quick dab of grease, the bike shifts like new!

Thanks guys ::022::

 

[Rambler]

I'm having clunky shifting at 2100 miles on my bike. Simple solution of greasing or could there be something else going on.

(Thanks Checkswreck for this 'How-To'.
Directed here via link posted in the FB group)

 

[Stef]

For those who installed the zerk in their shift lever, what size was it?

 

[ADKsuper10]

There should be a drop or two of blue Loctite on those threads! You do not want that bolt coming loose while you are riding! Buy a quality 3/8 inch Allen head socket that fits properly and everything will be fine.

When you do the grease job, clean out all the old stuff, thoroughly pack the drum with a good quality water proof grease, add a drop or two of blue Loctite on the threads and screw it back in, just snug with your ratchet. Do not crank on it, don't grunt and don't force it.

I lubed my shifter pivot this way when I first got the bike over two years ago and it has been buttery smooth ever since. I am 100% confident it will come right out when I am ready to take it apart again.

I did this maintenenace today for the first time (at approx 5700 miles on my 2015) and it is super easy. A nice H6mm socket worked like a charm. The shifter pivot bolt did have blue locktite in the threads so I did same when I put it back in. I dont think the brake side had any on it, but i put a drop anyway.

The cotter pin on the brake pedal pivot bolt comes off easier I noticed if you flip it around to the underside of the bolt before you pull it off. And goes on easier the same way. Needle nose pliers help here greatly.

My shifter pivot had very little grease on it it was pretty dry looking. The brake had a little but not much - pretty dry also.

Hopefully good till next year now.

Checks - thank you for the original post on this - my owner’s manual has pretty weak sauce instructions for doing this - just says to grease them when needed.

 

[taskmaster86]

It has been over 3 years since I greased all of the controls on my S-10. Every one of them is still working buttery smooth.

This grease job might be a once every 5 years or longer if you did the job properly and used a high-quality waterproof grease.

 

[ADKsuper10]

That would be great. I bought a tub of Yamaha Race Grease so it should last me 5,000 applications! Lol.

 

[Rambler]

Is this a good grease option?

Yamalube ACC-MOLDM-GS-10 Molybdenum Disulfide Grease, 10 oz Tube

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005XA2EQK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Wp1aBbW1S6BJ6

 

[taskmaster86]

Is this a good grease option?

Yamalube ACC-MOLDM-GS-10 Molybdenum Disulfide Grease, 10 oz Tube

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005XA2EQK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_Wp1aBbW1S6BJ6

Meh, It will definitely work but really isn't the best. That grease is a moly grease and moly greases do not have very good water resistance.
That being said, You do not need any special grease to do this job. You can just buy a waterproof grease locally and get to work.

Here are some examples of good waterproof greases (I prefer lithium complex based greases) that most chain auto parts or home improvement stores will have in stock:

Green grease (autozone or advanced auto)
Lucas marine grease (Advance auto or lowes)
WD-40 marine grade, resistant grease (home depot)

 

[limey]

It has been over 3 years since I greased all of the controls on my S-10. Every one of them is still working buttery smooth.

This grease job might be a once every 5 years or longer if you did the job properly and used a high-quality waterproof grease.

Years ? How many miles and what riding conditions?

 

[Ramseybella]

Years ? How many miles and what riding conditions?

I picked up three tubes of Marine White Lithium Grease.. Honestly this many pages on greasing a pivot point? :-\
Been putting off installing a grease nipple fitting, to much time riding.
Loctite? Never had to use it on this bike except spoke adjusters for that extra peace of mind.

 

[taskmaster86]

Years ? How many miles and what riding conditions?

6,000 miles, through all conditions with thorough pressure washings every few months each year.

Before everyone jumps on me, I have been pressure washing all of my equipment, including motorcycles for years with no problems. Pressure washers do not cause problems when you use them properly.