Personal Freedoms vs. Texting While Driving

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2112 said:
Sadly, there are too many muppets on the road and not enough police to catch them. I see some dreadful, inattentive driving and it's usually someone doing anything but actually drive. I've seen people shaving (electric not wet, but there's time...), make up and hair, breakfast (looked like Coco pops), map and newspaper reading, playing card games on a laptop (Polish registered HGV) and even a kid on a 50cc scooter texting. Add in the odd drink/drug driver and it keeps you on yer toes ! Ride safe out there ::008::

+1 in being entertained by seeing what all folks really are doing while commuting into DC every day for 27 years. Shaving, make up and reading are all normal. There was a guy long ago in a Mercedes who would play a coronet on River Road in the morning. Twice seen female heads bobbing in the laps of male drivers, which was distracting as heck and I wasn't even in the car!
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Twice seen female heads bobbing in the laps of male drivers, which was distracting as heck and I wasn't even in the car!
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Oddly, on the subject of wind instruments we came across a feller on the very busy 'Peripherique' of Paris playing a trumpet in 5 lane solid traffic. Took me ages to work out where the music was coming from...
 

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Easy question really.

Does banning phone use whilst driving impede someone's personal freedom more, or less; than being killed impedes another's persons personal freedom?
 

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Do you believe that driving should be banned for anybody who has had too much to drink?
 

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Do you believe that driving should be banned for anybody who has had too much to drink?
Yes, if for no other reason that it makes it harder to take ugly girls home by mistake ???
 

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Do you believe that driving should be banned for anybody who has had too much to drink?
Yes. Over here it is illegal to drink over the limit. The "limit" is approx 2 pints of beer. Although this does vary slightly depending on the person concerned.
Generally getting caught earns you a fine of around £250 - £500 and a 1 year driving ban. Plus associated loading of insurance premiums for the next 5 years.
 

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What if you could train people to text and drive? Really TRAIN them to crosscheck their phone, car, and surroundings in such a way that texting is no big deal?
It CAN be done.
 

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What if you could train people to text and drive? Really TRAIN them to crosscheck their phone, car, and surroundings in such a way that texting is no big deal?
It CAN be done.
You mean like Apache helicopter pilots that can scan with one eye and look at the other instruments and targeting with the other ?
 

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You mean like Apache helicopter pilots that can scan with one eye and look at the other instruments and targeting with the other ?
The problem with that is the Apache pilots are not surrounded in close proximity by dozens of other dozy numpties all doing the same thing!!
Also, if these people has the skill level and intelligence to do this then they would not be texting in the first place, see my point?
As for training them, why not train them to do ONE thing well first?
 

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UncaBuddha said:
What if you could train people to text and drive? Really TRAIN them to crosscheck their phone, car, and surroundings in such a way that texting is no big deal?
It CAN be done.
From what I've seen, its near impossible to teach most people to just drive.
 

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Dogdaze said:
Also, if these people has the skill level and intelligence to do this then they would not be texting in the first place, see my point?
I was being facetious ! You're right of course and it'll never work, as Andylaser says it's amazing how some people actually pass a driving test without appearing to have the required skills. Perhaps we should have a 'pedestrian test' before people are allowed out unattended in public and then they can work up to driving. It would keep some people off the streets for life...
 

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2112 said:
I was being facetious ! You're right of course and it'll never work, as Andylaser says it's amazing how some people actually pass a driving test without appearing to have the required skills. Perhaps we should have a 'pedestrian test' before people are allowed out unattended in public and then they can work up to driving. It would keep some people off the streets for life...
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UncaBuddha said:
What if you could train people to text and drive? Really TRAIN them to crosscheck their phone, car, and surroundings in such a way that texting is no big deal?
It CAN be done.

Before that much awareness happens, EVERYBODY will have realized their suffering and path.
I'm not going to hold my breath.
 

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Dogdaze said:
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Don't get me started on the pedi's
Ah yes, Switzerland the land of the non-looking pedestrian ! It's something I've noticed while travelling through that pedestrians do just step out in Switzerland. I know the law says ped's have right of way at all times but you'd think people would have a sense of self preservation ?
 

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Ah yes, Switzerland the land of the non-looking pedestrian ! It's something I've noticed while travelling through that pedestrians do just step out in Switzerland. I know the law says ped's have right of way at all times but you'd think people would have a sense of self preservation ?
You know, thank goodness someone else sees that!!!
It's difficult to explain this to people that don't live in Switzerland, so glad you've experienced this. It boggles the mind.
 

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I nearly wiped out an elderly gentleman in Davos who just stepped straight out of the kerb about ten foot in front of me ! No looking, just blind faith I'd stop (or swerve). Crazy.
 

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Yet at kindergarten they teach my kids that when crossing, you stop wait for cars to stop by looking at their wheels to ensure they are not spinning then eye contact then cross when waved across. I guess they then get to primary school and told to forget what the learnt in KC!!! ::010::
 
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