Parts Crossover Curious

[stutrump]

Hi folks. Apologies if this has been covered before but I'm curious about parts crossover for the our S10's. Could be helpful in the UK where there are so few S10's.
For example:
Ignition Coils....
XT1200Z part no: 23P-82310-00
YZFR1 part no: 1KB-82310-00

After a bit of research it seems the first 3 digits of a Yamaha part number are the model code and the next 5 digits are the basic part code.
Would it therefore be safe to assume that YZFR1 coils (for example), would be fine in an XT1200Z???
PS..this post is not particularly about coils but more about the crossover of parts.
Appreciate your thoughts...oh..and Happy New Year

 

[Nikolajsen]

I find it strange, if Yamaha would have the same part, with different numbers .
But I don't know.
I think there is a differensen, if the part numbers are different. It could be just a bracket, or a hole in the bracket, so it for some would be an easy fix.
But still different.

 

[bimota]

well those 2 part numners for sticks are different look at the tops of the 2 coils.

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rob

 

[Jlq1969]

well those 2 part numners for sticks are different look at the tops of the 2 coils.

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rob

£ 24 just for one hole ?? ...... I think I'm going to start a hole factory

In my country, it is cheaper to make a hole in a coin and use it as a washer ... than to buy a washer

 

[scott123007]

The main difference between the two is the Tenere's coils are bolted down, where as the R1's are not.

 

[Saint rob]

well those 2 part numners for sticks are different look at the tops of the 2 coils.

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rob

Rob a lot of Ebay traders don't take photo's of the actual products and use stock images instead, so there's no guarantee that you'll get what you see, it's always best to check directly with them before you order anything.

Stu your research is correct, the first 3 digits relate to the model and the rest relates to the part, so 82310 relates to the coils but 23P-82310 relates to the coils for a S10 which is unlikely (but not impossible) to be compatable with other models.
This was confirmed by a dealer local to me when I asked for a price for a drivetrain set for my MT01, he couldn't find the part number for the set (only the individual pieces) He was convinced that a set would be considerably less expensive so he used the part number for a set from a different model and changed the prefix to RP12 and came up with a price that was half of what it would of cost buying the chain and sprockets seperately.

 

[stutrump]

Mmmm...all interesting stuff..thanks folks.
As mentioned, this is not particularly about coils but having said that, I'm pretty sure I've also seen R1 coils on ebay that look the same as XT ones. The plot thickens...haha

 

[stutrump]

Mmmm...forget that last comment!! Just looked on ebay again and the R1 ones do look different. Therefore, I guess the middle 5 numbers of a part number...can't be relied upon (even if they are the same) to suggest crossover parts

 

[Saint rob]

I guess the middle 5 numbers of a part number...can't be relied upon (even if they are the same) to suggest crossover parts

I agree that they can't be relied upon for being interchangeable between models, but the middle 5 numbers can be relied upon to relate to the same component names.

 

[Checkswrecks]

Generally the first digits restrict the part to the model. However, plug the part number after "Yamaha" into a Google search and you'll find the other models if the part is used in more than one. For example the following shows the gas cap assy 39P-24602-00-00 for the Tenere used in 335 places:

Yamaha 39P-24602-00-00 - Cap Assembly - Adept Powersports

Yamaha Cap Assembly (39P-24602-00-00) is used in Fuel Tank assembly for 2005 Yamaha YZF-R1 (YZFR1T), Fuel Tank assembly for 2007 Yamaha R1 (YZFR1W), Fuel Tank assembly for 2006 Yamaha R6 (YZFR6V), Fuel Tank assembly for 2005 Yamaha FZ6 (FZ6ST) and Fuel Tank assembly for 2004 Yamaha YZF-R1 (YZFR1S)

www.adeptpowersports.com

 

[WJBertrand]

In my experience crossover parts will always carry the same part number. A better way to check this would be to put the part number of interest into a “where used” search bar at one of the on-line OEM parts sellers like Ron Ayers, Partzilla, etc.. All the models that use that P/N will be listed.


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[OldRider]

By being in the parts business I have seen a lot of parts that are completely interchangeable but have different part numbers because of a small difference in how they are made.

For example, Honda has several starter relays and the only difference in them is the length of the wire going from the relay to the wire harness. There can be a $20 difference in price between two relays with the only difference being a half of inch in wire length.

Same thing with cables. I've seen one cable fit 4-5 different four wheelers that all had different part numbers.

I've seen identical coils have different part numbers over an inch of wire that didn't make any difference in application.

There can be a huge difference in the same parts because of color.
Some TRX 300 Hondas had Black seats and some had Gray seats. Black was $50 higher.

I saw a $200 difference between years on a Yamaha carb with the only difference being a one size larger main jet. The jet cost five bucks.

 

[cycledelic relic]

Many times....it all boils down to production numbers.... If you make 10000 of a particular part # vs 1000 of another #....with almost identical specs... There is going to be a difference in cost per item.

I too have worked in the parts biz mostly
...since my high school years (Im 65)
Tractor/implement parts...car parts...cycle parts...aircraft parts... They all have the same interchangeability/differences to deal with.


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[stutrump]

Thanks folks. All very interesting!

 

[Shuckers]

Thanks folks. All very interesting!

Hi folks. Apologies if this has been covered before but I'm curious about parts crossover for the our S10's. Could be helpful in the UK where there are so few S10's.
For example:
Ignition Coils....
XT1200Z part no: 23P-82310-00
YZFR1 part no: 1KB-82310-00

After a bit of research it seems the first 3 digits of a Yamaha part number are the model code and the next 5 digits are the basic part code.
Would it therefore be safe to assume that YZFR1 coils (for example), would be fine in an XT1200Z???
PS..this post is not particularly about coils but more about the crossover of parts.
Appreciate your thoughts...oh..and Happy New Year

Hi Stu,

Hope your well, still need to meet up when all this settles.
If you go into Fowler’s parts in Bristols website,enter search for your bike model. Pick any part then click on it, it will come up with which other Yamaha bikes use that part. So yeah you are right.