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afaik, this engine was an adaptation of half a sport bike engine to compete with the GS. Hence the cross-plane crank and shim under bucket valves.

What we forget though is that Yamaha builds engines for boats, personal watercraft (jet skis), their RMAX unmanned helicopter, a line of quads, other vehicle manufacturers (incl Ford), water pumps, industrial engines, etc. The engine may have been meant to be used in one of those originally.
 

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I have a digital copy of the manual at home on my computer. If you'd like me to send it to you, let me know and I will when I get home, in a couple hours. R
Hi Rem, I'm new to the Tenere world and wondering if you're willing to share the shop manual with me as well? Just picked up a barely used 2013 ST and ready to do my first Oil/rear drive service. Among other things. Willing to send a few bucks for it if needed. Many thanks!
 

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Everything is an evolution or designed for more than one machine. It'd be interesting to know what else this engine was designed for or how the adaptation from something else left these features.
The 2021 Yamaha RMAX utv has a 270 deg parallel twin also. 1000 instead of 1200 but the bore/stroke ratio is the same (5mm smaller respectively).
 

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So far I’ve always changed the filter at every oil change. But I believe the owners manual recommends changing the filter every other change.
Believe it or not the used filter will actually do a better job filtering the oil .
 

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So far I’ve always changed the filter at every oil change. But I believe the owners manual recommends changing the filter every other change.
Believe it or not the used filter will actually do a better job filtering the oil .
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Guess no one follow owners manual.. I guess maybe at long trip every other change filter...

Coz I saw amount of oil with filter n without filter... So I wonder why owner manual said that
 

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All joking aside, if the manual says, "every other", then "every other" would be fine. My dad got me in the habit of changing "every time" when I got my first car, and I've kept the habit ever since. Filters, for cars anyway, used to be cheap. Worth the price to me. I'm hoping that the price increases over the years mean the filtering increased also.
 

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Guess no one follow owners manual.. I guess maybe at long trip every other change filter...

Coz I saw amount of oil with filter n without filter... So I wonder why owner manual said that
This makes good sense, if away on a long trip and needing an oil change, it’s not going to be an issue leaving the filter in place if it was changed last time round.
 

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Maybe this was already covered (I didn't go back and re-read all 25 pages), but I've always figured that Yamaha made the recommendation of changing the filter on every other oil change because the engineers were evaluating this based on the performance of a specific oil filter. Probably their own Yamaha filter. I know that they don't make their filters, but I'm sure they source them from a manufacturer who meets their specifics. So the engineers are cool with the filter they test with being sufficient to handle 8000 miles between changes. But not all filters are the same or perform the same, and I doubt that Yamaha evaluated every available filter on the market that fits this bike. It seems like a pretty broad based recommendation to advise an "every other" change cycle if they don't have data for all filters. Personally I've only used a Yamaha branded filter a couple times; mostly it's been Mobil, Mahle, and Bosch. I'm not absolutely rigid about it, and I've skipped filter changes, but more often than not I change the filter each time. I'm not sure if any of the filters I use have a recommended mileage, but for a maintenance interval like this, it seems like the filter manufacturer's recommendation would be more critical than Yamaha's, if you don't use Yamaha filters. So, with an unknown at play like that, it seems more prudent (for me, anyway) to change the filter each time, even though I do get lazy occasionally.
 

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I never change oil while on a trip and I really don’t care how many miles might be on the oil.
My Goldwing recommended oil change is 8,000 miles and I try to stick close to that but have actually went 12,000 miles without changing, odometer currently reads 579,900 miles and other than burning a little oil it still runs like new. Here is a picture of it taken last fall at 575,000 miles. Current plan is to retire it after it reaches 600,000 miles and buy a new Goldwing with DCT transmission, hopefully Honda will start building them in yellow again.
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I know it's apples & oranges, but Mobil 1 has an annual oil. No mileage restriction, good for one year; $40/5 qts. Their regular extended performance oil is "only" good for 20k miles or one year; $29/5qts. Hard to beat.
 

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So far I’ve always changed the filter at every oil change. But I believe the owners manual recommends changing the filter every other change.
Believe it or not the used filter will actually do a better job filtering the oil .
You are saying a used filter will filter better then a new filter ?


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Every time, not wanting to contaminate my new fresh oil with residue from the old in the filter. And it’s cheap.
Same here. Doing the job yourself saves more than enough to make a filter affordable. And if your spending £40-50 on good oil why wouldn’t you spend a few pounds/euros more and have a fresh filter.
 
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