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Wrathchild

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Can't you just pull the ABS fuse to disable it? In which case you can simply wire a switch to turn it on and off.
I ask seriously, isn't there a fuse you can pull to shut it down?
 

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re: picking it back up.

I don't have anyone to ride with sadly. What should I be doing in the gym to help with my ability to pick it back up on my own? Deadlifts? General core and arms? I guess squats as well?

I know that sounds dumb, but for real, if I am stronger, obviously I will have an easier time getting it up onto the wheels, so if I can target some specific things to help, I will give them a little extra attention when I work out.
 

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hmm it looks like grip and squats are where its at http://www.advpulse.com/adv-prepping/proper-lifting-techniques-adventure-motorcycle/

I haven't needed anything crazy, my other bikes have been a dirt bike (can pick that up easy lol its like 220lbs) a supermoto (heavier but still only 320lbs) and a Vstrom 1k ADV (like 475 with bags on it, not loaded, but REAL low center of gravity so it was surprisingly easy to pick back up)
 
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hmm it looks like grip and squats are where its at http://www.advpulse.com/adv-prepping/proper-lifting-techniques-adventure-motorcycle/

I haven't needed anything crazy, my other bikes have been a dirt bike (can pick that up easy lol its like 220lbs) a supermoto (heavier but still only 320lbs) and a Vstrom 1k ADV (like 475 with bags on it, not loaded, but REAL low center of gravity so it was surprisingly easy to pick back up)
I carry carabiners, a long rope, and pulley just in case. I also have a knot book so I can practice tying secure knots. A few pre-made prussic loops are always good to have on hand.

If you do drop it in a rut then rope is your best friend. Providing you have not broken both legs and arms , you can still use your one good leg and arm to get the bike upright. You have to work one end of the bike at a time to get it out of the rut. Falling off the side of a hill is pretty much game over in the desert unless you have a planted rock to tie the bike to. In the woods the rope and pulley will get you upright in no time.

If none of the above works then SPOT with S.O.V. feature is your best friend. They will come out on any paved or dirt road that's 4 wheel accessible.
 

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Can't you just pull the ABS fuse to disable it? In which case you can simply wire a switch to turn it on and off.
I ask seriously, isn't there a fuse you can pull to shut it down?
That's exactly how it's done, wire an on/off switch to the abs fuse. turn the switch off and everything is gone. Turn the switch back on and you have to cycle the ignition switch to turn everything back on.
 

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That's exactly how it's done, wire an on/off switch to the abs fuse. turn the switch off and everything is gone. Turn the switch back on and you have to cycle the ignition switch to turn everything back on.
Would this affect the speedometer? I saw a YouTube video where they did this but it turned off the speedo while the ABS was off.
 

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You are actually packing to much stuff for good off road riding.
I would ditch the panniers and pack lighter.
LOL What makes you think I was just riding off road? I had to get out there and back from near Buffalo NY and I was camping. Here's a few from Labrador, same bike, same tires, same "too much stuff".Lab1.jpgLab2.jpgLab3.jpgLab4.jpg
 

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Ha, I know the original questions by OP are not so much relevent now, but, you can certainly kill a fly with a hammer, but it is a lot smarter to use a flyswatter! I agree that rider ability is absolutely a factor. I tried to ride my Honda AT over Imogene Pass in Colorado and quickly found my limitations, coupled with a bike that is almost 100 pounds lighter than the ST. My current opinion is that using 500 to 600 pound "hammers" on the likes of Imogene pass, from Telluride side, is not so much a good idea. Having said that, I did manage to take the Alpine Loop, Cinnamon Pass, then Engineers Pass on my ST, and managed to do that without dropping bike. Was it the perfect tool? Not so much, but yes, I made it around and totally enjoyed the ride! At 68 years, I prolly lack some skill levels of many of ya'll. I know there have been ST
's that made it over Imogene, but I can't imagine how!!!!!
 

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LOL What makes you think I was just riding off road? I had to get out there and back from near Buffalo NY and I was camping. Here's a few from Labrador, same bike, same tires, same "too much stuff".
Keep on doin' what works for you!
 

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re: picking it back up.

I don't have anyone to ride with sadly. What should I be doing in the gym to help with my ability to pick it back up on my own? Deadlifts? General core and arms? I guess squats as well?

I know that sounds dumb, but for real, if I am stronger, obviously I will have an easier time getting it up onto the wheels, so if I can target some specific things to help, I will give them a little extra attention when I work out.
Figure out how to pick it up now, before you need to in the middle of a road, so you are NOT like these guys:


Lay it in the grass to practice and and do it like Ray here:

Don't try to make it a straight lift, use the leverage of the bottom of the crash bar. Notice how Ray leans in and gets it to the bar. At that point, the bike is almost half way up, so he is not lifting, he is leaning into it and pushing.

As for disabling the ABS, there are a number of how-to threads here.
 

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The bike handles really well on dirt, sand not so much. But the weight is mostly a factor if you drop it as others have said. I’m a big strong guy who knows pick-up technique and after the third time i had to pick mine up in one day of sandy riding I was fully beat. The bike didn’t mind much but I decided smaller would be better.
 

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Ha, I know the original questions by OP are not so much relevent now, but, you can certainly kill a fly with a hammer, but it is a lot smarter to use a flyswatter! I agree that rider ability is absolutely a factor. I tried to ride my Honda AT over Imogene Pass in Colorado and quickly found my limitations, coupled with a bike that is almost 100 pounds lighter than the ST. My current opinion is that using 500 to 600 pound "hammers" on the likes of Imogene pass, from Telluride side, is not so much a good idea. Having said that, I did manage to take the Alpine Loop, Cinnamon Pass, then Engineers Pass on my ST, and managed to do that without dropping bike. Was it the perfect tool? Not so much, but yes, I made it around and totally enjoyed the ride! At 68 years, I prolly lack some skill levels of many of ya'll. I know there have been ST
's that made it over Imogene, but I can't imagine how!!!!!

Imogene Pass is serious business! I would never take Michelle over it again on the Tenere, Just to dangerous. We rode over it up from Telluride but I was 58 not 68.
 
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