Michelin Anakee 3

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Re: Michelin Anakee 3 Tire Wear

Thanks very much for the feedback. It's not that tire wear seemed abnormal as much as I am trying to make the next tire last longer. I will try the higher tire pressure. I had never consider a pressure that high for a motorcycle tire.


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Re: Michelin Anakee 3 Tire Wear

42psi should be fine for long life. I ran a set of A3s at 40-42 and unfortunately got nearly 17,000 miles. I hated those tires, hence the wording.


To be as worn as yours are, my guess is that you ride where the pavement is more coarse (NC for example), are harder on the brake, or having more fun with the gas.
 

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Re: Michelin Anakee 3 Tire Wear

Checkswrecks said:
42psi should be fine for long life. I ran a set of A3s at 40-42 and unfortunately got nearly 17,000 miles. I hated those tires, hence the wording.


To be as worn as yours are, my guess is that you ride where the pavement is more coarse (NC for example), are harder on the brake, or having more fun with the gas.
What did you hate about them? The on-line review sites are heavily favorable on them. What is your split between on/off road?
 

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Re: Michelin Anakee 3 Tire Wear

I just put a new Anakee 3 on a few days ago. I have ridden from Sacramento to Grand Junction, CO with a moving average speed of 81 mph per the GPS. We have made good time across the desert with some of the 75 and 80 mph speed limits. No excess tire noise at those speeds,can only hear motor and wind noise. So the comments above about tire noise I can't relate to. Regarding heat and high speed I am clearly in that category.

Tire does well in the rain based on two thunderstorms we had to go through as well.

On to Vail today.


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Anakee 3 front and rear were already mounted on my S10 when I bought it earlier this year. Didn't think much about it until going on a tour this summer, when I started noticing the howl more and more. It took me most of the trip to figure out what it was coming from and I worried a lot about something being wrong with the transmission/final drive or similar. It is most apparent around 75 km/h and 110 km/h, especially upon deceleration. My front wheel is up for replacement by now and I will most likely change both front and rear for something else, just to get rid of the noise. I'm considering Pirelli Scorpion trail 2, Tourance Next and Battlax A40. Had it not been for the howl, I would have stayed with the Anakees since I like their performance in general, both on tarmac and gravel. Too bad, but the howl has to go.
 

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I've got about 4K on my AIII's right now. I don't really have any complaints. The only area I've found them wanting a bit is in mud. They are great on the tarmac (wet or dry), gravel and hard pack and OK in shallow sand. Running them at 35 front and 42 rear with luggage attached. The rear is beginning to flatten a bit visually due to the amount of highway riding I do, but does not seem to affect handling.
 

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Re: Michelin Anakee 3 Tire Wear

After reading the wildly varied replies about how good and how bad these A3 tires suck, I'm gonna go ahead and give them a try just to see how bad they are, hahaha! Wow, did Michelin really screw up that bad, kinda hard to believe, but we'll see :question: I rode these on a brand new 1200 GSW for three days and don't remember anything overly troublesome, but I'll have to see how they go on my own S10. Had some good luck recently with Michelins on my offroad 500 bike, and the reviews were mixed there too, and they are great.

I am not so concerned about the noise or mud/offroad performance for this 85/15 tire (not designed for slick mud) as I am interested in seeing how they handle on smooth and rough paved twisty mountain roads and dry dirt roads 10% of the time.
 

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decooney said:
Wow, did Michelin really screw up that bad, kinda hard to believe...
I agree completely. I used Anakee 2s for many years on both our bikes. One round with the 3 and I'm off Michelin completely now. In the end it's a good thing. The Mitas E07 is far superior to any Michelin tire I've used. So thanks to Michelin for leading me to find a better tire.
 

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Dirt_Dad said:
I agree completely. I used Anakee 2s for many years on both our bikes. One round with the 3 and I'm off Michelin completely now. In the end it's a good thing. The Mitas E07 is far superior to any Michelin tire I've used. So thanks to Michelin for leading me to find a better tire.
Duane, I totally agree with D_D. I haven't had the Ana3 on my 2015 ES but had them on my 2012. The front tire is junk and the rear is not far behind. I recently tried the Mitas Dakar e07 for the possibility of riding off road. SURPRISED to find how well they handle the highways and roads and rough asphalt back roads. These tires are better than me. Yesterday I rode https://goo.gl/maps/4pukYXXtvqT2 which you and I have recently ridden some of together. Rode Iowa Hill 50%. Rode Mosquito Ridge Rd, French Meadows Rd, 11 Pines Rd, Ice House Rd, Silver Fork Rd, Mormon Immigrant Trail 85% and the Mitas Dakar e07's were not challenged from edge to edge. The Bridgestone Battalax A40 tire is a very good tire for all of these roads but does not have the off road range of the e07. Hope this helps.
 

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Thanks for the feedback. [EDIT], took the bike out today with the the new A3s on. Tried them at varying speeds from 20 to 80 on paved roads, and did not notice much of a whining noise sound, not much at all - even when pulling in the clutch and coasting. The wind noise in my helmet open or closed and sound of the engine and Yosh exhaust far exceeds any kind of noise from the tires new, however they are brand new soft fresh rubber. These tires had not been sitting on a shelf, came right from the Michelin distributor. I wonder, maybe the noise sets in and gets worse if the tires sit (or had a long shelf life) and get harder over time?

As for initial handling, they do seem to have a linear lean-in aspect to them, it's not as if they tip in suddenly or slowly, but when I started riding back and forth in slalom course fashion as if I was going through narrow cones a bit, I was able to get the bike to slalom faster on paved roads than I could with the prior worn out set of Bridgestone Battlewings. This, of course could have been the difference in air pressure from my former set I ran in the mid 30s and these are high 30s to low 40s. I''ll try lowering air a bit to compare again next time. I will not try off road for a bit, I'll get at least 200 miles on them before I try it offroad some. Straightline traction is pretty good new, so far. Rolled on hard on slick pavement a few times slipping the clutch, and they grabbed well. I could get my former BWs to loose traction a bit on paved roads half way through their life.

It's premature to say, I know, I did not get but 35 miles on them with higher air pressures, and will play with air pressures a bit more next week. Got to scrub them in pretty good first to see what these A3s can really do. So far I'm not overly happy or disappointed with them. Then again, I've ridden several bikes with crap tires due to extended use over my life so any kind of fresh new rubber is always better than bald tires, hahaha!
 

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I ran 3 sets of Anakee 3s on my S10, rear would last 12,500 miles, back about 9000. Usage was spirited touring and commuting. Wore earplugs to block the wind noise so no whining issues. Great grip in wet or dry, never squared off. Great tire IMO.
 

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twinrider said:
I ran 3 sets of Anakee 3s on my S10, rear would last 12,500 miles, back about 9000. Usage was spirited touring and commuting. Wore earplugs to block the wind noise so no whining issues. Great grip in wet or dry, never squared off. Great tire IMO.
Hmmm, good to know. Well, I put another 350 miles on my brand new Anakaee 3s last weekend. Included twisty paved and rough unpaved bumpy mountain road sections. Pulled in the clutch a few times to listen for a howl, and nothing really notable. After 150 miles I leaned the bike over pretty good breaking off the nubbs, scraped a peg a few times...the tires stuck like glue on smooth and rough asphalt so far. Now I guess I need to see how long it reportedly takes to "develop a flat spot" or other "unexpected handling characteristics". In any case I've already concluded the Michelin Anakee 3 feels and handles a bit better on-road and off-road as compared to my stock original Bridgestone Battlewing tires, which weren't bad at all. However, the A3s seems to do a bit better for me on the Super Tenere. I played with varying air pressures in the mid to high 30s to low 40s on front and rear, got these new tires pretty hot (95-100 degree day) on a few occasions scrubbing them in. So far so good, honestly, no real complaints yet.

Based on older reviews, I was bracing myself for what was looking like it was going to be a really crappy set of tires. Nope, not at all, quite the contrary. I wonder if anything has changed with A3 materials and construction over the past 2-3 years?
 

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decooney said:
"Hmmm, good to know. Well, I put another 350 miles on my brand new Anakaee 3s last weekend. Included twisty paved and rough unpaved bumpy mountain road sections. Pulled in the clutch a few times to listen for a howl, and nothing really notable. After 150 miles I leaned the bike over pretty good breaking off the nubbs, scraped a peg a few times...the tires stuck like glue on smooth and rough asphalt so far." WAHOO!!!
 

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decooney said:
Hmmm, good to know. Well, I put another 350 miles on my brand new Anakaee 3s last weekend. Included twisty paved and rough unpaved bumpy mountain road sections. Pulled in the clutch a few times to listen for a howl, and nothing really notable. After 150 miles I leaned the bike over pretty good breaking off the nubbs, scraped a peg a few times...the tires stuck like glue on smooth and rough asphalt so far. Now I guess I need to see how long it reportedly takes to "develop a flat spot" or other "unexpected handling characteristics". In any case I've already concluded the Michelin Anakee 3 feels and handles a bit better on-road and off-road as compared to my stock original Bridgestone Battlewing tires, which weren't bad at all. However, the A3s seems to do a bit better for me on the Super Tenere. I played with varying air pressures in the mid to high 30s to low 40s on front and rear, got these new tires pretty hot (95-100 degree day) on a few occasions scrubbing them in. So far so good, honestly, no real complaints yet.

Based on older reviews, I was bracing myself for what was looking like it was going to be a really crappy set of tires. Nope, not at all, quite the contrary. I wonder if anything has changed with A3 materials and construction over the past 2-3 years?
No idea but I was running them 3 years ago and recently and don't see any difference.
 

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Tires, make your head spin. I have flipped 10K on the stockers and need new, I think it's down to 2 to pick from. These and the metzeler tourance next. Anyone have good or bad info on the Metzeler ?
 

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Tombraider2 said:
Tires, make your head spin. I have flipped 10K on the stockers and need new, I think it's down to 2 to pick from. These and the metzeler tourance next. Anyone have good or bad info on the Metzeler ?

Please keep THIS thread for the Anakee 3 and put Tourance stuff in one of the threads about the Tourances. To find those, go to the Tires sub-forum ( http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?board=74.0 ) and do a search with Metzeler Tourance in the search box. By doing the search while in the tires sub-forum, results will be limited to threads contained in just that forum.


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