Maintenance Items, Part Numbers, & Accessories
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sallydog said:
I never said they were "such sh*t"... I just said I wouldn't use them. When I had my shop we had some problems with Emgo filters coming apart... Like where the element caps are glued to the filter media. Often that glue would let go, and as such the oil would bypass the paper filtering media. We also saw the paper *blow out* on the edges of pleats, etc.
To each his own, but I'll stick with the Denso filters (Yamaha, Honda, Kawasaki, & Suzuki OEM supplier) if I can get 'em. For me personally if I can't get one of those Jap OEM filters then I look for a Mobil 1, Purolator, AC Delco, or Bosch... Then K&N... Pretty much in that order. Again, that is nothing more than my own personal preference. I am not for even a moment trying to tell anyone else what filter to use.
And who knows... I haven't used them in decades. Emgo may not be using the same sub-contractor to make their filters any longer. They could even be sourcing them from Denso!
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thank youDallara said:I never said they were "such sh*t"... I just said I wouldn't use them. When I had my shop we had some problems with Emgo filters coming apart... Like where the element caps are glued to the filter media. Often that glue would let go, and as such the oil would bypass the paper filtering media. We also saw the paper *blow out* on the edges of pleats, etc.
To each his own, but I'll stick with the Denso filters (Yamaha, Honda, Kawasaki, & Suzuki OEM supplier) if I can get 'em. For me personally if I can't get one of those Jap OEM filters then I look for a Mobil 1, Purolator, AC Delco, or Bosch... Then K&N... Pretty much in that order. Again, that is nothing more than my own personal preference. I am not for even a moment trying to tell anyone else what filter to use.
And who knows... I haven't used them in decades. Emgo may not be using the same sub-contractor to make their filters any longer. They could even be sourcing them from Denso!
Dallara
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Just updated the list with Yamaha's new part numbers for OEM brake pads front and rear.
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Just updated the list with Yamaha's new part numbers for OEM brake pads front and rear.
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That's timely. ::008::
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Great List - Thanks for your efforts.
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Added right-side panel "Spring Plate" - part # 5PW-2177L-00-00 - as suggested by LDRyder.
This is the plate that the quarter-turn dzus-style fasteners screw into for the right-side battery/electrical panel.
For the record, the Yamaha-recommend factory oil filter - part # 5GH-13440-20 - for the Super Tenere measures 2.631" (66.83mm) on my precision digital caliper. This is what is commonly referred to as the "short" filter.
The "long" Yamaha filter, of which one of the part #"s is 3FV-13440-00, measures out on my digital caliper at 2.851" (72.43mm)
Please note you should *ALWAYS* measure for clearance on your *OWN* bike for filter fit with whatever skidplate, etc. *YOU* use. Many aftermarket brand filters have different overall lengths than the Yamaha filters, and there is *NO* way I can possibly go out and purchase an example of each and every brand of filter listed, then measure it. I have to go with various manufacturers crossover listings, so remember the list is a *GUIDELINE*, not the definitive final answer for any aftermarket part. As I state at the bottom of the original post:
"Mind you, this is most definitely *NOT* the "be all, end all" list of things for the bike, and I didn't post it to start any debates or "oil threads", etc.... It's just a place to start, and there are certainly lots of other chemicals, etc. that will work as well as those on this list. This is just based on some factory recommended items, items I have found to work well over the years, recommendations from people and places I trust, etc., and the list will evolve and change as my time with the bike goes on. Again, it's just something I do with all my bikes, and I have to start somewhere."
I tried to compile this list in an attempt to help Super Tenere owners. Please feel free to use it as a guideline, but remember you really should check how items from the list work with your own bike, particularly when there might be some sort of clearance issue involved.
As an example, Mobil 1 makes two oil filters that are supposed to interchange with the Yamaha "short" and "long" filters, but I have one of each here in my hand, and neither measures exactly the same length as the Yamaha filters. for reference they measure, on the same calipers, as follows:
Mobil 1 M1-108 - 2.566" (65.19mm)
Mobil 1 M1-110 - 3.383" (85.92mm)
As you can see there is a considerable difference in size between the Yamaha filters and these Mobil 1 brand ones. I have been informed there may be a difference in the length of the Bosch filters as well,, so as you can see you need to be careful when using different filters if you have a tight-fitting skidplate. So please, please, please... measure, measure, measure... to make sure you won't run into problems with things like this.
Hope this helps!
Dallara
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Added right-side panel "Spring Plate" - part # 5PW-2177L-00-00 - as suggested by LDRyder.
This is the plate that the quarter-turn dzus-style fasteners screw into for the right-side battery/electrical panel.
For the record, the Yamaha-recommend factory oil filter - part # 5GH-13440-20 - for the Super Tenere measures 2.631" (66.83mm) on my precision digital caliper. This is what is commonly referred to as the "short" filter.
The "long" Yamaha filter, of which one of the part #"s is 3FV-13440-00, measures out on my digital caliper at 2.851" (72.43mm)
Please note you should *ALWAYS* measure for clearance on your *OWN* bike for filter fit with whatever skidplate, etc. *YOU* use. Many aftermarket brand filters have different overall lengths than the Yamaha filters, and there is *NO* way I can possibly go out and purchase an example of each and every brand of filter listed, then measure it. I have to go with various manufacturers crossover listings, so remember the list is a *GUIDELINE*, not the definitive final answer for any aftermarket part. As I state at the bottom of the original post:
"Mind you, this is most definitely *NOT* the "be all, end all" list of things for the bike, and I didn't post it to start any debates or "oil threads", etc.... It's just a place to start, and there are certainly lots of other chemicals, etc. that will work as well as those on this list. This is just based on some factory recommended items, items I have found to work well over the years, recommendations from people and places I trust, etc., and the list will evolve and change as my time with the bike goes on. Again, it's just something I do with all my bikes, and I have to start somewhere."
I tried to compile this list in an attempt to help Super Tenere owners. Please feel free to use it as a guideline, but remember you really should check how items from the list work with your own bike, particularly when there might be some sort of clearance issue involved.
As an example, Mobil 1 makes two oil filters that are supposed to interchange with the Yamaha "short" and "long" filters, but I have one of each here in my hand, and neither measures exactly the same length as the Yamaha filters. for reference they measure, on the same calipers, as follows:
Mobil 1 M1-108 - 2.566" (65.19mm)
Mobil 1 M1-110 - 3.383" (85.92mm)
As you can see there is a considerable difference in size between the Yamaha filters and these Mobil 1 brand ones. I have been informed there may be a difference in the length of the Bosch filters as well,, so as you can see you need to be careful when using different filters if you have a tight-fitting skidplate. So please, please, please... measure, measure, measure... to make sure you won't run into problems with things like this.
Hope this helps!
Dallara
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Added additional warning notice about oil filter length, along with the actual *MEASURED* length of some available oil filters.
One more time... Be very very careful when using different oil filters other than the stock Yamaha recommended OEM filter when you have any aftermarket skidplate, crashbars, etc. as there is a possibility of interference, and that could lead to punctured filters or leaks. Please measure carefully to make sure you have adequate clearance when using *ANY* oil filter with *ANY* accessory that mounts close to the filter.
Just FYI, and I hope this helps!
Dallara
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Added additional warning notice about oil filter length, along with the actual *MEASURED* length of some available oil filters.
One more time... Be very very careful when using different oil filters other than the stock Yamaha recommended OEM filter when you have any aftermarket skidplate, crashbars, etc. as there is a possibility of interference, and that could lead to punctured filters or leaks. Please measure carefully to make sure you have adequate clearance when using *ANY* oil filter with *ANY* accessory that mounts close to the filter.
Just FYI, and I hope this helps!
Dallara
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That is freakin' awesome ... a long lived part is a good part, even if it is only a washer! ;DDallara said:
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Yamaha is actually pretty good about using parts for years, and even decades... Better than most IMHO.
On another note, I just updated the list with the actual measured length of some other oil filters I was able to put into the calipers today. I also added a new Kawasaki filter part # to the list as it is superseding the earlier #. I have actual measured lengths for both, though, thanks to my Kawasaki dealer!
I'll keep try to get actual measured lengths for as many filters as I can, with my calipers so they will better reference with each other.
Hope this helps, but I have no idea how long it will take. One local Auto Zone let me measure the Bosch filters today, but they didn't have the proper numbered AC Delco filters in stock, and they are no longer carrying Purolator or Baldwin here in my area... Off to O'Reilly's, Pep Boys, NAPA, etc. when I have time.
Dallara
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Yamaha is actually pretty good about using parts for years, and even decades... Better than most IMHO.
On another note, I just updated the list with the actual measured length of some other oil filters I was able to put into the calipers today. I also added a new Kawasaki filter part # to the list as it is superseding the earlier #. I have actual measured lengths for both, though, thanks to my Kawasaki dealer!
I'll keep try to get actual measured lengths for as many filters as I can, with my calipers so they will better reference with each other.
Hope this helps, but I have no idea how long it will take. One local Auto Zone let me measure the Bosch filters today, but they didn't have the proper numbered AC Delco filters in stock, and they are no longer carrying Purolator or Baldwin here in my area... Off to O'Reilly's, Pep Boys, NAPA, etc. when I have time.
Dallara
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Please delete the CR8EIX spark plugs as an equivalent. The plugs in our bikes are NGK CPR8EB-9 and I just chased around trying to find replacements on a Sunday. The lesson I've learned and wish to convey is to order these ahead of time. The other vehicles I found using these plugs are a couple KLX dirt bikes and ATVs.
My first thought was to look at the more common Iridium CR8EIX, since I've got a set for my son's bike. Plus, it's on this listing.
Don't do it. It would work in a pinch, but the only 2 things in common are the 10 mm size and the heat range. Our stock CPR8EB-9 has an extended tip and the CR8EIX positions the spark 2mm closer to the head, meaning you could have detonation under heavy load or at high rpm. The stock plug is a resistor plug, meaning that it's less likely to give off ignition noise if you have a radio or intercom. The CR8EIX would need a metal screwcap that does not come with the plug.
Better to swap each cylinders' A & B plugs. I'll change them after the trip we are about to go on.
Oh, and do NOT use anti-seize with NGK plugs. They already have an anti-seize coating, plus there is a Tech Bulletin from NGK not to because it reduces running turque enough that people have done damage in tightening.
My first thought was to look at the more common Iridium CR8EIX, since I've got a set for my son's bike. Plus, it's on this listing.
Don't do it. It would work in a pinch, but the only 2 things in common are the 10 mm size and the heat range. Our stock CPR8EB-9 has an extended tip and the CR8EIX positions the spark 2mm closer to the head, meaning you could have detonation under heavy load or at high rpm. The stock plug is a resistor plug, meaning that it's less likely to give off ignition noise if you have a radio or intercom. The CR8EIX would need a metal screwcap that does not come with the plug.
Better to swap each cylinders' A & B plugs. I'll change them after the trip we are about to go on.
Oh, and do NOT use anti-seize with NGK plugs. They already have an anti-seize coating, plus there is a Tech Bulletin from NGK not to because it reduces running turque enough that people have done damage in tightening.
Globerider2002
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Great information...thank you for all your work. ::012:: Do you think you could find the part number for the European left handlebar switch which has the emergency flasher and high beam pass switch included in the handlebar assembly? I have these functions on my Tiger and I really use them!
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23P-83969-00Globerider2002 said:
Dallara,
Thank you.
Thank you.
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Not sure if this has been mentioned, but the rear pads may have been updated again to this number. 3D8-25806-00-00. Can someone confirm this please? May need an update to the initial list as well. Thanks again
mcbearface
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Just tried Wix filter 51365 and the seal does not seat due to the part with the thread being raised. :-\
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I don't think I have the Wix filters shown on the "Maintenance", etc. parts list on the first page, do I? :question:
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No, firedad415 had mentioned it. Figure I'd give it a try.
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mcbearface said:
Gotcha'! ::008::
Thanks for the heads up!
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FWIW, I like the K&N KN-204. The nut on the end is brilliant!
It's a little longer than stock, but the SW-Motech belly pan allows it. I do have to remove the belly pan to change the filter, though.
It's a little longer than stock, but the SW-Motech belly pan allows it. I do have to remove the belly pan to change the filter, though.