Life! (corona virus, non informative, non hysterical post)

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ballisticexchris

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I do not listen to or believe anything I hear or read on mainstream media. The only true accurate info is the World Health Organization, my local physicians, and what I actually see with my own eyes.
 

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Except for a few days during the election, the virus is still the top news story around here. Yesterday it was announced that all the ICU beds in the Madison Wisconsin area were 100% full. We are setting records almost daily with several days of over 7,000 new cases. It has migrated to the upper midwest and yes even Idaho. People around here did not believe it would affect us. But what was stopping the spread? Really nothing. Every state "reopened" way too early. Politics was put before safety and common sense. The scientific and medical experts were ignored. Here in Wisconsin the governor's hands are tied by the legislature. His most recent stay at home mandate is merely a suggestion because the legislature and state supreme court took away his ability to institute a real mandate.

The bars are usually full around here especially during Packer and Badger football games. There are church services going on. About half of the schools are closed, but the news is full of stories where groups of parents are petitioning for them to open. High school football games are being played. Many people just refuse to wear a mask and socially distance as the experts suggest. With absolutely no direction or plan from either the federal or our state government the virus is spreading uncontrolled. I am watching the news as I type this and there are 150,000 new cases and 1,900 deaths today in the US. We are in for a long, long winter, just like Dr. Fauci and others warned.
 

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I just figured it was the average self entitled American exercising their right to do what they want. . . . everybody else be damned. But, yeah, it's a world wide surge/spike. They talk about covid fatigue o_O . . . . people tired of wearing a mask, and social distancing. WTF. Really. . . . it's so difficult? Would I like to go back to the way it was? F**k YEAH. But, if we keep this shit up, it will never happen.

Back when this started, and they identified what it was, I told my wife that this was going to be the new normal. I had always wondered why when we saw a video from China, everybody was wearing masks. Now we know.

We are own worst enemy.
 

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All that is on our local fake media is the ineffectiveness of the vaccine, opening up the borders, and allowing more flights in and out of our country in order to curb the spread of COVID.
If you believe it to be fake news why do you watch it? If you don't watch it how do you know what they broadcast?

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If you believe it to be fake news why do you watch it? If you don't watch it how do you know what they broadcast?

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You can't help but hear and see the news it's all around us. Just a few minutes ago I was eating dinner and it was turned on.

What do you know, NEWS FLASH: Interview with city officials and governor are stating an uptick in COVID case during group gatherings of those that are infected passing on the virus to those not infected. Gosh golly, I need to listen to the news more often. That is very informative.
 

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There's talk of a 6-8 week shutdown. That's ridiculous. We had the shutdown. . . . were getting control of the situation. . . . and each holiday, we screwed it up. We can't afford another shutdown, literally or figuratively.
 

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There's talk of a 6-8 week shutdown. That's ridiculous. We had the shutdown. . . . were getting control of the situation. . . . and each holiday, we screwed it up. We can't afford another shutdown, literally or figuratively.
Where are we getting control of the virus??
 

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Interesting, the first Monday after the election was called, the significant vacine announcement (90+% effective) happened. That same day the company's stock was way up, and the CEO sold like 60% of his stock. Coincidence??

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The ICU in my state’s biggest hospital Iis full. Yet there are a ton of people that immediately take their mask off after entering businesses. Then they give people with their masks on the defiant stare down. SMFH
 
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Interesting, the first Monday after the election was called, the significant vacine announcement (90+% effective) happened. That same day the company's stock was way up, and the CEO sold like 60% of his stock. Coincidence??

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Not at all. The stocks went through the roof with the announcement. Why not sell some and make money on it. The man was smart. He knows darn well if the President elect becomes the next leader of our country there is a good chance stocks are going to plummet. Unfortunately our country has anti-vaccine quack leaders and judges that are doing everything they can to see vaccines are not allowed.

You do know that the current administration has been fighting tooth and nail to streamline the vaccine and has distribution logistics in place and at the ready. Unfortunately we are in wait and see mode right now as COVID vaccine is in big court battles as the socialist part of our government is trying to block it.
 

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Just came back from being away and it's time to cut the political crap. The R's scream that everything is fake news, while the D's are convinced corona is surging because the R's won't take responsibility. The election is in our past and neither is going to convince the other of anything on a motorcycle forum.

Here's something actually factual: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/masking-science-sars-cov2.html
 

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I don't think anybody a lot of people would disagree that masking helps prevent transmission. But, apparently everybody a lot of people are tired of wearing them, and decided to stop. Because, the holidays spiked, and then started to lower again. Now? No holidays, just more people not practicing prevention. Fingers crossed that the vaccine actually does start getting deployed in the coming weeks, because initial reports are showing good things.
 

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Been talking to the daughter about the vaccines and don't expect real distribution till mid Spring or summer and this seems to echo what Dr. Fauci is currently saying. This is hitting our family on a personal level in another way, since Karen and I are trying to protect a 6 month old and 88 year old. We suddenly find ourselves this morning quarantining because yesterday I hugged my son and then hours later he learned that he had an hours-long work exposure a few days before. All of those stories about the current spread coming from groups of just a few people at home and for birthdays come to mind. At least we did have masks on, so we are all now awaiting test results.

The daughter and her company have been on overtime since this began and there is a lot more in development than what is being made public. The stone wall for a number of things still in development is that there are problems scaling up from being able to make tens or hundreds of doses. Trying to make thousands or millions requires changing their recipe enough that it has resulted in parking a number of things that have actually worked in initial trials.

The current vaccines now available are either high risk, such as those from Russia and China giving some adverse problems, or extremely hard to get into realistic distribution. The one from Pfizer is an example of the latter, because it requires storage and distribution at -70 degrees, which is not widely available outside of actual hospitals. Even if Pfizer could make millions of doses, there aren't that many freezers that cold to hold it or trucks that cold to transport the quantity. Plus it requires two shots a month apart.

On the up-side, real vaccines should be available for the very first medical providers before the end of the year, so it does look like we are turning a corner even if slowly. And while the lingering results of getting COVID are affecting a LOT more people than earlier thought, the mortality rates have fallen because therapies have been learned.
 
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Just came back from being away and it's time to cut the political crap. The R's scream that everything is fake news, while the D's are convinced corona is surging because the R's won't take responsibility. The election is in our past and neither is going to convince the other of anything on a motorcycle forum.

Here's something actually factual: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/masking-science-sars-cov2.html
Bob that link does not really say anything more than what we already know. Bottom line is if you come in contact with someone who has COVID there is no protection whatsoever other that is 100% effective (other than no human contact). If the vaccine is made available and we take it, then the risk of contracting COVID goes down even more.

Unfortunately we have the "anti vac freaks", judges, and government officials that are fighting to not allow the vaccine to be made available. This is not politics this is real life facts. As a United States Citizen I should have a right to take a vaccine to lessen the chance of contacting this deadly disease.

That same freedom is being allowed to those that choose to spread COVID and take zero precautions. It is all around us. This is no different than AIDS or Syphilis that people knowingly contract and deliberately spread through sexual contact, blood transfusions, and needles. With COVID it's spread through deliberate unnecessary human contact.

More facts worldwide: Opening up borders and allowing more flights in and out of countries means more human contact. This means more spreading of COVID. The longer preventing vaccine development/distribution is also going to accelerate and allow the continuing spread of this disease.

Sure is funny most of the facts I've pointed out are not on the mainstream news. As I said before the only truth I heard on mainstream media was health officials stating that you are at risk if you come in contact with someone that has COVID.

Mainstream media has nothing more than laughable entertainment to report 99% of the time. I would challenge anyone to send a link of a CNN report that is not politically biased or a reporter employed by CNN that is being 100% accurate truthful about COVID. You are not going to find it.
 

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Around here, the news is saying that CVS, Walgreens, and a few other places, are already in talks for the first distribution. Healthcare workers, high risk persons, and I have to assume first responders, are set to be the first to get it. I was thinking March 2021 for widespread distribution, but they were saying by the end of December '20. That seems over optimistic. Unless, the drug companies are so sure of acceptance, that they are already in production. I don't know why it would take so long for y'all to get it. But, I'm not a politician.

EDIT: Not getting political, but, I just read that Trump said "As soon as April the vaccine will be available to the entire general population,". It's contrary to what our local media is saying, but is closer to what CW is saying. Fingers crossed. Maybe that light at the end of the tunnel isn't a train this time.
 
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