Life! (corona virus, non informative, non hysterical post)

[Madhatter]

governor Cuomo , a great choice for VP , he sent sick c19 people to the nursing homes . kinda like when people gave small pox blankets to the Indians . 2020 needs to go away.

 

[Fennellg]

I must have missed that one. Look at all that we have had to overlook with Trump. I guess the point I am trying to make is more basic. In 2020 the best we can do is 2 old men with no new ideas who more than likely not be able to finish their term. We need something fresh, newer, Courageous. We need a leader.

 

[fredz43]

governor Cuomo , a great choice for VP , he sent sick c19 people to the nursing homes . kinda like when people gave small pox blankets to the Indians . 2020 needs to go away.

Not as simple as that.

Per snopes:
On April 6, Cuomo asked Trump for permission to treat coronavirus patients on the ship. Trump agreed, and the Navy reconfigured the ship into a 500-bed hospital so it could space out patients to avoid spreading the disease. But on that same day, a crew member tested positive for the disease, even after the crew had been ordered to quarantine for two weeks before their departure for New York. The number of infected grew to four in the following weeks. By April 21, the ship had treated only 179 patients, not even close to its capacity.

Trump acknowledged during a White House briefing that the reason the ship wasn’t put to much use was because its arrival coincided with the opening of a military-supported temporary hospital at the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center. A commander of the Comfort’s task force supporting the COVID-19 mission in New York City echoed the sentiment:

In summary, Cuomo’s administration did issue a controversial directive that sent recovering COVID-19 patients to nursing homes, which may have contributed to a spike in COVID-19-related deaths in those facilities. Officials reversed the order in May. The USNS Comfort’s inability to take in more patients was due to a combination of bureaucratic hurdles for New York City hospitals who found it difficult to send patients to the ship in the first place. Even after the ship opened up to treating COVID-19 patients, it was still unable to fill all of its beds. Therefore, we rate this claim as a “Mixture.”

 

[fredz43]

Furthermore, Cuomo had said that he in no way would serve as VP at this time.

Back to the subject of voting for party rather than candidate. , It is amazing to me that so many supposedly intelligent people continue to support a person who is a known habitual liar. He was before he became a candidate (Obama was born in Kenya) and continues everyday to tell ridiculous non truths. He lies, even when it makes no sense to lie. His father wasn't born in a small village in Germany like he claimed he was born in the Bronx, ( “My father is German, right, was German, and born in a very wonderful place in Germany) The coronavirus wasn't "almost airtight" as we were told in Feb, the 15 cases that were "soon going to be down to zero" and later, it would disappear "like magic in April"when warmer weather got here, so there was no need to stock up on medical supplies such as masks before it got serious. It was Obama's fault that we didn't have all those supplies, even though he had 3 years to restock if in fact the "cupboard was bare". Nothing is his fault, everything is the fault of somebody else. Now the Secretary of Defense had the courage to speak out against the use of federal troops in US cities and General Mattis has finally had the courage to speak out about this being the first president in his lifetime to do nothing to unite the nation, rather encouraged further division, Several other general level officers have agreed with this truth. He even said that he was the one that gave Mattis the nickname of Mad Dog, when it is easy to do a very little homework and find out that this is more BS. I find it hard to believe that if most people met a person of such low moral character and who lies to them every day, they would continue to associate with that, but it seems that some are so loyal to a particular party that they continue to support him even though he continues to take advantage of their gullibility.

I stopped supporting Bill Clinton in the late 90' because he demonstrated that he didn't always tell the truth so I decided that I couldn't trust him. and all he did was lie about getting a blow job, like who hasn't done that? . Turns out he couldn't hold a candle to the present prez and yet people still support him in spite of that. I have to question whether they are being honest with themselves.

 

[thughes317]

NY resident here....Cuomo is a arrogant, self-serving, hypocritical wannabee dictator POS with a serious napoleon complex that has run this state into the ground. People (including myself) are leaving in droves due to his progressive policies. I've tried to stay out of this thread but I guess you could say I was "triggered" by the suggestion that this douche nozzle should be considered for VP.

Yeah yeah, I know......"Don't sugarcoat it man, tell us how you really feel"

 

[BrutalTruth]

Whoever came up with that chart needs a serious reality check. CNN in the yellow box? Funniest thing I've heard lately.

Sent from my SM-T510 using Tapatalk

 

[Alexander]

NY resident here....Cuomo is a arrogant, self-serving, hypocritical wannabee dictator POS with a serious napoleon complex that has run this state into the ground. People (including myself) are leaving in droves due to his progressive policies.

Leaving in droves, are they?

Cuomo may be the single most popular politician in America right now.
"A new Siena College poll released this week showed Cuomo's overall favorability among New Yorkers at 77% while 71% approved of the job he is doing for the state. Asked who they trusted more to make the right decision about when to reopen New York, 78% chose Cuomo while 16% opted for President Donald Trump."

Cuomo popularity highest in 7 years
"New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo's (D) favorability rating is at its highest point in more than seven years, according to a new poll, driven by overwhelming support for his response to the coronavirus pandemic. [...]Seventy-one percent of respondents said they had a favorable view of Cuomo, up from 44 percent in February[.] "

Conservative New Yorkers trust Cuomo over Trump on state reopening
"In the poll, Republican and conservative voters also said they prefer the Democratic governor's judgment on the issue to Trump's, with 56% and 57%, respectively, favoring the governor."

All right-wing websites are ablaze right now trying to smear him. Wonder why.

 

[Madhatter]

you can't fix stupid

 

[Fennellg]

I seemed to caped off a range war here. This is getting personal. I am not fixated on any one candidate. I just don’t think a Vice President pick shouldn’t hurt a candidates chances to get elected. The candidate should be neutral or helpful.

I am also not satisfied with our current choices Running for president.

 

[Eville Rich]

you can't fix stupid

Always a good thing to remember about ourselves.

Eville Rich
2016 S10

 

[Checkswrecks]

...and all he did was lie about getting a blow job. like who hasn't done that ....

Ummm - Fred? . . .

We can clearly see that Fred's wife can not see his computer screen. LOL

Remember memes like this?

and now

 

[Fennellg]

Fred I would like a new bike. If you could see your way clear to helping me out I won’t show your wife how to be a lurker.

I was on a motor cycle trip with my buddies. We stopped for the night atop a Mountain in a small town. It was a one stop shop perfect for us, A small Best Western with a bar, pool table and food. After we checked in headed to the bar. The entry was blocked. The locals had set up a table and were playing poker. They told us to come in, go behind find the bar and grap a beer and go to the back room. That’s where the pool table was. They would send us someone to take our orders after they finished the game, We were home.

They sent us Charlotte the patron saint of bikers. She was more than a flirt. After a few beer, she would flash us her boobs with each order. Much later and a bunch more beers my wife calls. She asked me where we were and what we were doing. I told her I was having a beer playing pool and looking at naked ladies. My friends were mortified. My wife said that’s nice talk to you tomorrow. She thought I was being funny and drunk. The truth can sometimes be the best way to hide something.

 

[fredz43]

Checkwrecks and Fennellg, It is very clear that somebody from Antifa hacked into my account and added a very disturbing comment that is obviously false. It clearly wasn't written by me, as I have never gotten a BJ in my life, that I can tell you.

 

[AVGeek]

For me, 2020 is officially my personal worst year ever. Neil Peart's death hit me hard, which usually doesn't happen when a famous person passes. Then the virus hits, and my 27 year career is put into a medically induced coma (I'm hopeful that some live events will begin to return now that the country is opening up, looks like maybe this fall will hold some promise), and a few weeks ago, my father passed (not COVID related at all). It wasn't unexpected, as he had battling his illness for a while, but it still sucks. Yesterday was his birthday, and he should have been celebrating turning 74.

As far as the protests, I really hope there will be some reform, as it is long overdue. And our political system needs some long overdue reform as well. I have kept most of my political beliefs very close, and don't typically share them online. Like CW, I do appreciate that everyone is discussing the issue and not engaging in any ad hominem arguments, it makes our jobs a lot easier. I truly believe that most of us live much closer to the center than the MSM and the political parties would have us believe. And I think that the "either you're with us, or against us" rhetoric coming from the political parties has lead to the extreme polarization we see today. At some point, this is an unsustainable model, and it will collapse on itself; it will be interesting to see what emerges afterwards.

For the last few years, I have been the president of a non-profit association. While our board is fairly homogeneous, we still have discussions and I have certainly learned the art of compromise. I can't event begin to imagine the scale of responsibility that comes with an office like the Presidency. Since I became of voting age, I have yet to see a candidate from either party that really deserved my vote. It seems that either party doesn't understand the definition of insanity; doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result each time. It really is another unsustainable model, and it too will eventually collapse.

Thanks for letting me ramble. I've written out a few of these in this thread only to delete them before posting. Stay safe, be kind to one another, and enjoy the ride.

 

[thughes317]

Leaving in droves, are they?

Cuomo may be the single most popular politician in America right now.
"A new Siena College poll released this week showed Cuomo's overall favorability among New Yorkers at 77% while 71% approved of the job he is doing for the state. Asked who they trusted more to make the right decision about when to reopen New York, 78% chose Cuomo while 16% opted for President Donald Trump."

Cuomo popularity highest in 7 years
"New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo's (D) favorability rating is at its highest point in more than seven years, according to a new poll, driven by overwhelming support for his response to the coronavirus pandemic. [...]Seventy-one percent of respondents said they had a favorable view of Cuomo, up from 44 percent in February[.] "

Conservative New Yorkers trust Cuomo over Trump on state reopening
"In the poll, Republican and conservative voters also said they prefer the Democratic governor's judgment on the issue to Trump's, with 56% and 57%, respectively, favoring the governor."

All right-wing websites are ablaze right now trying to smear him. Wonder why.

If you poll the population of NYC and the surrounding Burroughs you will get the results you want. "Lies, damn lies, and statistics".

Here's the big picture:

New York Governor Election Results 2018: Live Midterm Map by County & Analysis

Get real-time 2018 New York Governor election results & live maps by county. POLITICO's coverage of the 2018 midterm races for Senate, House, Governors & Key Ballot Measures.

www.politico.com

And 2014:

2014 New York gubernatorial election - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Perhaps the pollsters should have asked the 86% of the state that voted against Andy how they feel regarding the job he's doing?

The above link is also a perfect example of what happens when you don't have an electoral college system at the state level....pure mob rule. We're simply outnumbered by the mass of progressives inhabiting tiny areas of the state. Look at that map.....and then realize that everybody living in the red area knows that their vote means nothing. Sucks.

 

[ballisticexchris]

Bryan, I too am having the worse year of my life. Between being attacked, serious injuries being left untreated going on 6 months, the virus, family deaths due to the virus, the riots, and then the job loss, it has been really tough.

On a good note, I'm still above ground and able to type on this forum.

 

[Madhatter]

don't forget " ballistic" you have friends

 

[2talltoo]

I am 69 and have voted in every election. It has always been the lesser of evils vote except Jimmy Carter, who after Richard Milhouse I was all in on, not my best vote. Anyway last election I wanted to keep my string alive and neither candidate was acceptable so I wrote in my own name. Threw away my vote on another poor candidate. Therefore I nominate Checkwrecks for President of the USA. Got be better than our current (fearless in a bunker) blowhard or Sleepy Joe. Now if Sleepy Joe picks a strong candidate that does not appear like a strong film extra as an SS officer (Pence), CW's bid for office could be in jeopardy.

 

[Alexander]

If you poll the population of NYC and the surrounding Burroughs you will get the results you want. "Lies, damn lies, and statistics".

Here's the big picture:

New York Governor Election Results 2018: Live Midterm Map by County & Analysis

Get real-time 2018 New York Governor election results & live maps by county. POLITICO's coverage of the 2018 midterm races for Senate, House, Governors & Key Ballot Measures.

www.politico.com

And 2014:

2014 New York gubernatorial election - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Perhaps the pollsters should have asked the 86% of the state that voted against Andy how they feel regarding the job he's doing?

The above link is also a perfect example of what happens when you don't have an electoral college system at the state level....pure mob rule. We're simply outnumbered by the mass of progressives inhabiting tiny areas of the state. Look at that map.....and then realize that everybody living in the red area knows that their vote means nothing. Sucks.

Thank you for providing links and taking the time to respond.

Your argument is a common one, and an issue of population density. The counterpoint, as you hinted, is that those red areas on the map are predominantly empty fields, and empty fields don't vote. The "86% of the state" to which you refer only houses 7% of the population.

Logically, I fail to understand why you consider it a "problem" when 93% of the population of a state gets to decide upon its leaders. You call it mob rule, I call it a representative republic, so long as the majority isn't tyrannical and addresses concerns of the minority. Conservatives, who currently control the executive branch, the judicial branch, half of the legislative branch, and a majority of the governorships, are not being tyrannically repressed by those densely-populated blue cities.

Conversely, if 7% of a population decided upon the leaders of a state (as you prefer), well, that would be an over-represented rule-by-minority, and would accurately describe the "dictatorship" you so fear.

It's the job of pollsters to try to ascertain the opinions of the majority AND the minority. Your desire to over-sample the minority, thus rigging the poll, would negate the purpose of polling.

Moving is indeed a solution.

 

[Tenman]

I'm a Trump supporter. Hate me if you wan to. I don't give a rats ass