Life! (corona virus, non informative, non hysterical post)

SHUMBA

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Just out of interest i would like to ask what are peoples opinions regarding how Englands handling of this looks to you ?. Im not so much interested in the politics and science but more how the people in charge have carried themselves and what impressions they have made on you. I say England and not the UK as i live there. I wont find offence in anything said but would appreciate your honestly.
Sorry I canna say lad, cause I'm a Canadian of Irish extraction. Canada has handled the crisis crisis shamefully. We are in dire need of a federal election.
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Sorry I canna say lad, cause I'm a Canadian of Irish extraction. Canada has handled the crisis crisis shamefully. We are in dire need of a federal election.
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Thanks Shumba. My Ma was from Galway .
 
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Good lord this thread has taken a turn for the worse. Now we have forum members that are reduced to taking stabs at others with taking quotes out of context. This thread is a train wreck. I can't help but watch it........
 

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Today no new cases but yesterday New Zealand had 1 new covid case and it was related to a known cluster, the person was already in isolation because of their connection to an earlier case.
I think we had 4 days previous without case, then another single case related to a cluster.

We are at level 2 which means everything is now open, bars and restaurants need your details for tracing and table service only,
Max groups anywhere is 10 only.
But funerals can have 50.
All the shops ive seen have sanitizer at the door to use when entering or exiting.
Masks are optional.

We have an APP to download for tracing , shops need to have a QR code ready to scan dunno if all shops have it. 294000 kiwis have uploaded this.

We'll see in about a weeks time (be two weeks of level 2 - incubation time roughly) of the 'mingling' we've been allowed to see any or more new cases, if there are hopefully we can trace and isolate those areas rather than the whole country.
 

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Today no new cases but yesterday New Zealand had 1 new covid case and it was related to a known cluster, the person was already in isolation because of their connection to an earlier case.
I think we had 4 days previous without case, then another single case related to a cluster.

We are at level 2 which means everything is now open, bars and restaurants need your details for tracing and table service only,
Max groups anywhere is 10 only.
But funerals can have 50.
All the shops ive seen have sanitizer at the door to use when entering or exiting.
Masks are optional.

We have an APP to download for tracing , shops need to have a QR code ready to scan dunno if all shops have it. 294000 kiwis have uploaded this.

We'll see in about a weeks time (be two weeks of level 2 - incubation time roughly) of the 'mingling' we've been allowed to see any or more new cases, if there are hopefully we can trace and isolate those areas rather than the whole country.
New Zealand, now there's a very orderly well run country. I had both the pleasure and honour to vist Zealand in February of this year. As a Canadian, I am very envious, oh, can we borrow your prime minister please, because our so called PM has allowed the "train wreck" to happen in Canada.
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A fair assessment. To follow up point two, Dominic Cummings is senior adviser to his knibs and he is defending his breaking lockdown because he's different. He just creates the rules, he doesn't have to live by them. That's for us taxpayers to do.

The quarantine for new arrivals is just an utter facepalm. That should have been enacted immediately. No bloody point to it now...
 

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Wow, some of you have some serious miles “riding” the keyboard in this thread.

Shumba “ride,ride,ride”!!!
 

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Although we are currently trialling Hydroxychloroquine to confirm its effectiveness in preventing and reducing the severity of Covid-19.
The Lancet strives to peer review to publish medical articles which are beyond reproach, they are the oldest medical journal and not some tabloid or fringy news outlet.

Various countries started a number of trials before The Lancet article pulled all the data together for the 93,000 patients in the study. In fact, the Lancet article mentioned that there were a number of small studies and those insufficiently supported by small data sets. Now that this much data has been collected and analyzed, it'd be hard to imagine the new trials coming up with new and unique results at this point.

The bottom line is still that prescribed doses are effective for malaria and other intended purposes, BUT according to the article there is:
- no prevention of COVID-19,
- no effect on patients who have COVID-19,
- it can kill you,
- a side effect is that it can create heart arrhythmia, which can lead to more severe problems in us older folks.
If you want to be like Trump (risking that he wasn't lying) and take it then go for it, knowing those risks.

fwiw - Traveling like I used to, we'd use the anti-malarial meds a lot and I've seen side effects of mis-using hydroxy twice in 32 years, once on a flight to India and once in Cameroon. None of us knew it till there was a problem, but a co-worker swallowed extra before and after getting getting on the flight to India. (Traveling with him something always happened.) He later said that he thought if a little is good a lot is probably better. He was irrational and mildly bouncing off the walls before the plane landed and we could get a doctor involved and figure out what was going on. Not a good time for any of us and we ultimately had to baby-sit him in a Bangalore hotel for a day. He would've been in real trouble if he'd been alone. The time in Cameroon the guy who took it did have a heart arrythmia when we were in a sweat-house of a boot-sucking mud in a hot steamy jungle. We thought he was having a heart attack and carrying him out for about a km was an absolute bitch. Once in an air conditioned car he started to do a bit better but it continued till getting to a hospital. In Cameroon, which is about as 3rd world as you get.
:rolleyes:
imho - hydroxy is nothing to F*ck around with, but again you get to make your own choice.
 

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3) I understand, but don't comprehend, that the UK finally instituted a 14 day quarantine for returning travellers. Starting on June 8th, Say wharrr? That particular 14 day trick has been in place in sensible countries for a couple of months. Have the authorities been snugged up watching Netflix or something? I do believe this is a nice example of shutting the gate after the horse has bolted.
I agree, and this follows Spain introducing 14 day quarantine for international arrivals from May 15th, and France reciprocating with arrivals from Spain and the UK! Bonkers! Of course here in the UK we have had 541 deaths per million against Spain (612), France (433), Belgium (797), but at the other end of the spectrum Germany with only 100, Poland (26) and Greece with 16 deaths per million. Something about the numbers doesn’t quite make sense.
 
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Wow, some of you have some serious miles “riding” the keyboard in this thread.

Shumba “ride,ride,ride”!!!
Keyboard jockey is at least safe. With some of the country reopening, using common sense it's really all some of us can do. In reality I would not ride right now even if I could. The risk I would putting myself and others is too great. Of course this is my choice. Trying to reason with anyone that has total disregard for human life is futile.

This virus is still in the danger stage. Only reason that some of the stay at home orders have been lifted, shops reopening, parks opening, etc, is to get the economy moving again. Humans that have an erudite brain that works logically are using caution and not taking unnecessary risks in the name of fun.

I'm getting Email after Email of rally's that are still taking place. Blows my mind to think that groups are willing to risk contact with others, an airlift and more contact in hospital just to enjoy a ride. FWIW without fail, almost every single group ride, rally, race etc, has at least one or 2 serious injuries that require a hospital visit. It is the reality of riding 2 wheels at speed off road.

Last rally I was involved had a guy snap his ankle in camp and then the next day another rider doing a rag doll over the bars. Both required a lot of human contact and hospitalization.
 

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You can hide in your cave if I makes you feel safe. Maybe you have health issues that mandates that. But eventually You can’t hide from the threat.
It was as crowded as ever at the grocery store. Now you might go when it’s not as crowded. But the poor people who work there have been there through busy and slow. maybe only selfish people go out to the grocery store. Think of all the poor people who have to work so you can eat. Exposing themselves and countless others.

The whole point of the stay home stay safe was to slow the speed of infection to not overwhelm the hospitals. If in your area the hospital is overwhelmed-take appropriate actions.

To wreck the whole economy over the small percentage of infected people that need hospitalization is ludicrous.
 
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ballisticexchris

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I cannot hide from the threat but I sure in the heck take precautions that will greatly diminish any chances of contracting or spreading the virus. I feel horrible for anyone who has to work and expose themselves. Unfortunately they do not have a choice unless they want to be without income. My wife is on a renal diet so home delivery is out of the question. The only limited human contact I have outside my home is for the essentials to survive.

I'm not doing anything that is self serving for my pleasure. It's all about survival and protecting human life as much as humanly possible. Attending rallies, group gatherings, riding, or any "fun" activity that requires human contact is not my felicific idea of enjoyment. Nor should it be anyones delectation or rampant egomania.
 

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this virus is serious for some , not much of a problem for most . the destruction of our economy through lock down will effect more and even in a more destructive way if it continues . history says so . because when bad things happen to people people act like they always do .... can one say social upheaval , never a pretty thing .
 
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ballisticexchris

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Look for Colorado numbers to spike.....went for a short ride and no contact but wow it almost looked like a normal Memorial Day weekend.
It's the same thing here in CA. The beaches and parks are packed shoulder to shoulder and hardly anyone wearing masks.
 
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