Is Motul 5100 same as Yamalube 10/40.

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Has anyone got 100% proof that Motul 5100 is the same Oil as Yamalube 10/40? Motorcycle Dealer and several riding companions have told me this, in the UK the price difference is substantial, I have used Yamalube for 32,000 miles with no problems, if Motul 5100 is the same oil,why not use it? Other thing is Motul 5100 gets great reviews for gear shifting smoothness.
 

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Dont know if its the same but I've used Motul for well over 100,000 miles on my S10 and no problems at all. Yamalube is way out of my reach financially and in my experience Motul is just fine
 

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You can use it!
I don’t know if its the « same » thing in term of composition...
Where I live there’s both and usually at the same price. Both make the bike shift smoothly but not for long...
 

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Dont know if its the same but I've used Motul for well over 100,000 miles on my S10 and no problems at all. Yamalube is way out of my reach financially and in my experience Motul is just fine
Cant go wrong with that,I keep my bikes for years and hate getting ripped off.
 
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Has anyone got 100% proof that Motul 5100 is the same Oil as Yamalube 10/40? Motorcycle Dealer and several riding companions have told me this, in the UK the price difference is substantial, I have used Yamalube for 32,000 miles with no problems, if Motul 5100 is the same oil,why not use it? Other thing is Motul 5100 gets great reviews for gear shifting smoothness.
I would be very careful using a subpar oil such as Motul. Yamaha specifically recommends only Yamalube products to be used on their machines. Mixing and switching to different oils is a big no no. Be careful listening to the Motul reviews. It is one of the lowest grade oils produced. You are asking for a camshaft failure if you use Motul. The 5100 has a very low sulphur base which will lead to accelerated bearing and piston wear.
 

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I would be very careful using a subpar oil such as Motul. Yamaha specifically recommends only Yamalube products to be used on their machines. Mixing and switching to different oils is a big no no. Be careful listening to the Motul reviews. It is one of the lowest grade oils produced. You are asking for a camshaft failure if you use Motul. The 5100 has a very low sulphur base which will lead to accelerated bearing and piston wear.
In my Honda Goldwing I have used at least 8 different brands of oil and at 549,000 miles it still runs like new, and very few times have I used motorcycle specific oil.
Not sure why but So far in my Tenere’s I have only used motorcycle specific oil but never with the Yamaha brand on it.
 

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In my Honda Goldwing I have used at least 8 different brands of oil and at 549,000 miles it still runs like new, and very few times have I used motorcycle specific oil.
Not sure why but So far in my Tenere’s I have only used motorcycle specific oil but never with the Yamaha brand on it.
Chris is trolling again. Here is what the SuperT manual says:
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Any manufacturer will recommend their products, they make more money that way. But any oil that meets JASO MA standards will be acceptable for the bike given the table and will be accepted for warranty

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ballisticexchris

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I rest my case as stated: "Recommended brand YAMALUBE".
 

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Yamaha will never say "buy Honda oil". Of course they're going to recommend their own product. Yamaha and Honda etc don't make oil. Only Yamaha knows who supplies their "own brand" oil. After Chris's "Motul is crap and Yamalube is oil from Venus's own nipples" statement I'd love to discover that yamalube is motul after all. Bloody oil threads...:rolleyes:
 
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ballisticexchris

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I agree, why take the gamble if not absolutely neccesery.
Yes and it's a big gamble. Engine failures due to using Motul oil are very common. Motul is an oil designed for racing engines that are rebuilt frequently. An example is my Beta 498. I use Motul in that motor. It provides just enough protection to last between the frequent tear downs and rebuilds.

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Now if you are removing the motor, splitting the cases, and replacing connecting rods, pistons, all the bearings, clutch plates, etc every 90 hours, then Motul is a great oil to use. Most guys are not into that kind of maintenance.

I'm a stickler for proper service and it gets old. Rebuilding my motor every 90 hours is not fun at all and it gets costly. There is a price to pay when using a low grade racing oil.
 

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Thanks for your information, I had no idea racers were using low quality oil !


Yes and it's a big gamble. Engine failures due to using Motul oil are very common. Motul is an oil designed for racing engines that are rebuilt frequently. An example is my Beta 498. I use Motul in that motor. It provides just enough protection to last between the frequent tear downs and rebuilds.

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Now if you are removing the motor, splitting the cases, and replacing connecting rods, pistons, all the bearings, clutch plates, etc every 90 hours, then Motul is a great oil to use. Most guys are not into that kind of maintenance.

I'm a stickler for proper service and it gets old. Rebuilding my motor every 90 hours is not fun at all and it gets costly. There is a price to pay when using a low grade racing oil.
 

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Yes and it's a big gamble. Engine failures due to using Motul oil are very common. Motul is an oil designed for racing engines that are rebuilt frequently. An example is my Beta 498. I use Motul in that motor. It provides just enough protection to last between the frequent tear downs and rebuilds.

Now if you are removing the motor, splitting the cases, and replacing connecting rods, pistons, all the bearings, clutch plates, etc every 90 hours, then Motul is a great oil to use. Most guys are not into that kind of maintenance.

I'm a stickler for proper service and it gets old. Rebuilding my motor every 90 hours is not fun at all and it gets costly. There is a price to pay when using a low grade racing oil.
Yamaha has said that the engine will run fine, and no less in performance, as long as the oil meets, or exceeds "X" specs. They will even warranty it, if it has 300K+ miles on it, while using Motul, and not Yamalube. But you say the engine will wear out quicker, and have more problems. I can understand the argument between synthetic and non-synthetic, and some oils have more "cleaning" additives, but to put a blatant statement out, you need facts, and stats to back it.

OIl, oil oil oil oil......
 
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