Howdy guys, new here. So my sport / touring mode switch doesn't seem to do jack.....

[sky4]

I've got a 2012 super tenere, 76,000 (yes thousand) miles on it. It's got fresh spark plugs, 91 octane in the tank, i live in colorado so 5000 feet up+

I can't feel any change by switching from sport to touring. it shows up on the display when i change it- but i feel nothing.

I have tried the bike at sea level as well.

anyway- other than that this thing is great. I come from an old BMW airhead- R100GS- which i loved, but the engineering, power and reliability of the super T is incredible. Just got back from a 8 state trip around the west- 3500 miles. wonderful machine.

 

[Squibb]

I'm thinking your bike may have had the ECU flashed at some stage. There should be a distinct difference.

Any evidence in old records/papers or maybe on or adjacent to the ECU?

 

[sky4]

I'm thinking your bike may have had the ECU flashed at some stage. There should be a distinct difference.

Any evidence in old records/papers or maybe on or adjacent to the ECU?

ECU has never been reflashed. first owner is a good friend of mine. according to him that switch never did anything!

I guess i'm mostly concerned it points to a more serious issue.

I likely will have the ECU reflashed this winter- i hear that helps with some of the snatchiness on/off throttle.

 

[jbrown]

If your clutch switch is bad, that can force the bike to always use the neutral throttle map. (The original free "flash".) Will the bike try to start in gear with the clutch lever released?

 

[Sierra1]

Welcome from Texas. If it feel "snatchy", that makes me think it's stuck in "S". 'Cuz, if I take off from a stop sign/light, I kill it in "T". But, I'm with Squibb. . . . somewhere. . . . somehow. . . .

 

[sky4]

If your clutch switch is bad, that can force the bike to always use the neutral throttle map. (The original free "flash".) Will the bike try to start in gear with the clutch lever released?

oooh. clutch switch is CANCELLED!

i'll reflash then re-connect that.

 

[Revz]

If your clutch switch is bad, that can force the bike to always use the neutral throttle map. (The original free "flash".) Will the bike try to start in gear with the clutch lever released?

If I may ask, what is the original free flash? Is that different from the original ECU maps?

 

[jbrown]

If I may ask, what is the original free flash? Is that different from the original ECU maps?

The neutral throttle map allowed 100% throttle, while lower gear maps limit to something less than 100%. So people would put a jumper across the clutch switch to remove the low gear restriction.

 

[sky4]

The neutral throttle map allowed 100% throttle, while lower gear maps limit to something less than 100%. So people would put a jumper across the clutch switch to remove the low gear restriction.

I had heard there were some complaints of stalling as well. I mean it was basically changing maps when you released the clutch... I could see this acting a little funny.

 

[EricV]

@sky4 - Welcome to the forum. Please take a moment to add your location to your profile. It gives context to your posts and helps others give you better answers, since there are some differences with bikes in various areas of the world. EU Vs US Vs Canada Vs California, for example.

The jumper mod advanced the timing across the board, if I recall correctly. In some climates/higher temps, this could induce knock under hard throttle and it wasn't really ideal, just sort of a poor man's cheat over doing a flash.

I would suggest you just hook up the clutch switch again and see what the two modes feel like before you jump on the flash wagon. If this is your first throttle by wire bike, you're just going to get used to the throttle over time anyway, it's more sensitive to input than normal EFI bikes and a LOT more sensitive than a Carb bike. Some dislike the heavy throttle braking of the S10, others enjoy it and use it to adjust speed Vs braking. It's a big twin, so you get more roll off throttle braking than on an inline four, but you have to decide what you like/dislike. Give the stock bike a shot and see what you think after you have a couple thousand miles or more on it before jumping to a flash. The flash options are even better when you have specific things you are looking to change/alter/correct that bother you. Just getting it right off the bat might result in features you don't really notice or enjoy.

 

[sky4]

@sky4 - Welcome to the forum. Please take a moment to add your location to your profile. It gives context to your posts and helps others give you better answers, since there are some differences with bikes in various areas of the world. EU Vs US Vs Canada Vs California, for example.

The jumper mod advanced the timing across the board, if I recall correctly. In some climates/higher temps, this could induce knock under hard throttle and it wasn't really ideal, just sort of a poor man's cheat over doing a flash.

I would suggest you just hook up the clutch switch again and see what the two modes feel like before you jump on the flash wagon. If this is your first throttle by wire bike, you're just going to get used to the throttle over time anyway, it's more sensitive to input than normal EFI bikes and a LOT more sensitive than a Carb bike. Some dislike the heavy throttle braking of the S10, others enjoy it and use it to adjust speed Vs braking. It's a big twin, so you get more roll off throttle braking than on an inline four, but you have to decide what you like/dislike. Give the stock bike a shot and see what you think after you have a couple thousand miles or more on it before jumping to a flash. The flash options are even better when you have specific things you are looking to change/alter/correct that bother you. Just getting it right off the bat might result in features you don't really notice or enjoy.

thanks eric i'll give it a shake.

I do run premium fuel when available, and i take it easy on the thing when it's hot.

I've pretty much been on big twins for most of my riding career. SV650 (ok, midsize twin) and an R100GS were my last 2 bikes.