HID Headlights??

Chadx

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twistedthrottle said:
The Denali LED Lighting 2-Light Kit with Full Wiring Harness and M10 Mount will solve all lighting issues easily. Hook up the lights directly to the battery (or a fuse block) and tap a running light with the provided Posi-Taps and you have a low draw super efficient LED auxiliary light setup:

The Complete Kit
I love LED lights and think it's great Twisted Throttle is offering a package with everything one needs for a tidy install as well as the bike specific upgrades (longer leads, lighted and waterproof switch, etc.) over the plain jane Vision X Solstice LEDs.

I will be leaving the stock headlights alone and adding additional light via two LED lights. Will Twisted Throttle be offering the kit with the new 45°wide/15°high elliptical "driving light" beam pattern? That seems to be the beam that makes the most sense for day-to-day road riding, though being able to change one or both lenses to a different pattern, like a flood pattern, could be handy in certain situations. I value the wide patterns to dump plenty of light in the ditches (deer, elk, sheep and moose in the areas I ride) but I don't want to waste lumens by dispersing too much light up to the sky and right down in front of the bike, so rather than the standard flood light pattern, the 45°/15° elliptical beam seems to have the best of both worlds (short and wide). But then, I haven't seen the beam patterns in person, so it's hard to imagine. Maybe one flood pattern and one standard would give a similar pattern?

Are there going to be Super Tenere brackets or do the included brackets work with the pre-drilled factory mounting holes while still allowing both horizontal and vertical adjustments to position the lights as needed? It seams they would only allow for vertical adjustment. Any comments on that would be appreciated. Thanks!
 

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Chadx said:
Are there going to be Super Tenere brackets or do the included brackets work with the pre-drilled factory mounting holes while still allowing both horizontal and vertical adjustments to position the lights as needed? It seams they would only allow for vertical adjustment. Any comments on that would be appreciated. Thanks!
Our fairing mount kit is here:
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/5694/821/


You can mount the lights either there, or on the fender bolts. Either way, you retain the ability to adjust both the horizontal and vertical aim of the lights independently. Each light has a bracket that allows adjustment in both axes.
 

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trinc4me said:
This will probably one of the first mods on my Tenere. Looks great!
I've watched some of the videos on TT's site since finding out about these, and I must say I'm quite enamored with them myself. They seem like such a great solution; they look good and appear to be very functional, low wattage, long life span. I think there may be a set in my future as well.
 

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Venture said:
trinc4me said:
This will probably one of the first mods on my Tenere. Looks great!
I've watched some of the videos on TT's site since finding out about these, and I must say I'm quite enamored with them myself. They seem like such a great solution; they look good and appear to be very functional, low wattage, long life span. I think there may be a set in my future as well.
Yeah... 10 years is a pretty ok warranty period. I actually forgot to add the mounts to the list of available mounts on the Denali product page... this thread delivers.
 

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Chadx said:
Will Twisted Throttle be offering the kit with the new 45°wide/15°high elliptical "driving light" beam pattern? That seems to be the beam that makes the most sense for day-to-day road riding, though being able to change one or both lenses to a different pattern, like a flood pattern, could be handy in certain situations. I value the wide patterns to dump plenty of light in the ditches (deer, elk, sheep and moose in the areas I ride) but I don't want to waste lumens by dispersing too much light up to the sky and right down in front of the bike, so rather than the standard flood light pattern, the 45°/15° elliptical beam seems to have the best of both worlds (short and wide). But then, I haven't seen the beam patterns in person, so it's hard to imagine. Maybe one flood pattern and one standard would give a similar pattern?
We tested the elliptical beam pattern when we first put the Denali kit together. It sounds good on paper, but what you get is a beam that is way too flat and wide. The extreme width gives you a soft glow across a wide area, but it doesn't really penetrate very far in any direction. Our supplier says that the elliptical pattern has the lowest sales of all patterns available to automotive applications, and is typically only used by folks installing backup lights on pickup trucks. After trying the elliptical pattern out, we have to agree. The beam is so short range that it won't even be very useful for finding deer in the bushes when you're at speed - by the time you see the deer off to the side, you've already blown past it. Most of the guys in our office stick with the 10 to 15 degree beam pattern that we call the "driving" lens in our Denali package. It gives a good penetration range down the road while still lighting up the sides of the road enough to see if there are critters lurking nearby. The "floods" in our Denali package provide more side light, but it's not overly diffuse.

The other reason we don't offer the 45/15 elliptical pattern is that you'd need to buy a whole lamp assembly just for that pattern. Unlike the other lenses in our Denali kit, you can't swap just swap them. The elliptical pattern is actually built into the lamp housing itself and cannot be changed. We figured most folks would rather have some flexibility in a single lamp housing than have a really awesome backup light that couldn't be changed to a more useful driving or flood pattern.

YMMV. All the guys in our shop voted based on independent night-time road tests on our personal bikes... unanimously.
 

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YMMV. All the guys in our shop voted based on independent night-time road tests on our personal bikes... unanimously.
This is what I call QUALITY SERVICE. I've already looked at this kit previously but now I'm sure. Next year I'm getting some of these since there really is no point in using HID IMHO.

I rode some really dark roads even without moon light and I didn't feel the need for more light. If so, high beam shutter to "free" even more light.

the Denali kit however will be used by me to direct light in a way that when i'm leaning I can see the road clearly. When the bike turns you'll loose a significant part of the beam.

PS: No many wilderness around the roads in Portugal so my opinion on HID is based on that. Besides its not legal although many people do it...
 

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twistedthrottle said:
We tested the elliptical beam pattern when we first put the Denali kit together. It sounds good on paper, but what you get is a beam that is way too flat and wide...
The other reason we don't offer the 45/15 elliptical pattern is that you'd need to buy a whole lamp assembly just for that pattern...
YMMV. All the guys in our shop voted based on independent night-time road tests on our personal bikes... unanimously.
Exactly the type of hands-on info I was looking for. Thanks for the succinct response.
 

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twistedthrottle said:
Chadx said:
Will Twisted Throttle be offering the kit with the new 45°wide/15°high elliptical "driving light" beam pattern? That seems to be the beam that makes the most sense for day-to-day road riding, though being able to change one or both lenses to a different pattern, like a flood pattern, could be handy in certain situations. I value the wide patterns to dump plenty of light in the ditches (deer, elk, sheep and moose in the areas I ride) but I don't want to waste lumens by dispersing too much light up to the sky and right down in front of the bike, so rather than the standard flood light pattern, the 45°/15° elliptical beam seems to have the best of both worlds (short and wide). But then, I haven't seen the beam patterns in person, so it's hard to imagine. Maybe one flood pattern and one standard would give a similar pattern?
We tested the elliptical beam pattern when we first put the Denali kit together. It sounds good on paper, but what you get is a beam that is way too flat and wide. The extreme width gives you a soft glow across a wide area, but it doesn't really penetrate very far in any direction. Our supplier says that the elliptical pattern has the lowest sales of all patterns available to automotive applications, and is typically only used by folks installing backup lights on pickup trucks. After trying the elliptical pattern out, we have to agree. The beam is so short range that it won't even be very useful for finding deer in the bushes when you're at speed - by the time you see the deer off to the side, you've already blown past it. Most of the guys in our office stick with the 10 to 15 degree beam pattern that we call the "driving" lens in our Denali package. It gives a good penetration range down the road while still lighting up the sides of the road enough to see if there are critters lurking nearby. The "floods" in our Denali package provide more side light, but it's not overly diffuse.

The other reason we don't offer the 45/15 elliptical pattern is that you'd need to buy a whole lamp assembly just for that pattern. Unlike the other lenses in our Denali kit, you can't swap just swap them. The elliptical pattern is actually built into the lamp housing itself and cannot be changed. We figured most folks would rather have some flexibility in a single lamp housing than have a really awesome backup light that couldn't be changed to a more useful driving or flood pattern.

YMMV. All the guys in our shop voted based on independent night-time road tests on our personal bikes... unanimously.
@Twisted Throttle,
I looked at all of the vids and would like to see a vid done on a dark road. Looking at a garage door or looking at the oncoming lights does not help me. Now maybe I missed a vid showing this, if so could you point me in the right direction?

I am after a light that will turn night into day.. Well alright, maybe not that good....LOL..
 
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