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Moodytico

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So I just sold my Tiger 1050 and have decided I want a S10. First gens appeared to be plentiful, especially the 2012 models. My question is, should I get a well farkled first gen with low decent miles or hold out for a second gen and pay more? Most of the first gens are in the 6k range with the 2nd gens going 8-10k. Some of the 1st gens I've seen have lots of Alt rider protection, clutch basket upgrades, throttle locks, suspension upgrades, exhaust, etc. Basically everything the 2nd gens have. Any reason to choose one over the other? Would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks!
 

Moodytico

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Even if the 1st Gen has upgrades that the 2nd has? Most of the bikes I have seen have addressed all know issues.
 

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i,ve never wanted cruise control and looking at all the threads on here and facebook about problems with it i,m glad i haven,t got it, and the gen 1 clocks in my opinion are better than the gen 2 clocks,
my gen 1has a manual cct fitted ohlins suspension, prefer the gen 1 clocks i didn,t even want a gen 2 but only my opinion

when i bought mine i could of had a new gen 2 bike, or a 2013 gen1 world crosser with 1200 miles on it mint, i got rid of a second trouble sum bmw gsa and want a reliable bike with not electric gadgets like electric suspension, didn,t want fancy clocks cruirse control, after reading how reliable nick sanders bike was his first gen 1 that was it,
i bought the gen 1 7 yrs on no issues at all love it, i just put a manual cct in at 24000 miles for piece of mind cost £180 fitted bike nice and quiet now lovely, i have a ohlins rear shock that is 2 seconds to wind the preload up, and i still can ride 9-11hrs days in europe and alot of motorways hrs with out needing cruise control.
so for me a very reliable great bike and like don t said i wouldn,t want a gen 2

rob
 
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Moodytico

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Well I guess if I can find a 2nd gen for a reasonable price I will go for it. Honestly, I don't need CC or ES. I rode to Tuk 2 Summers ago on a Versys 650 and I was just fine. If I find a mint first gen with all the add ons for 2k less,. I can change the clutch basket and do an ECU flash and still have money left over!
 

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If you have to have cruise, that answers your question... If it was me, I would get the 2012, save the money and get a fantastic bike. Ive recently seen a few 2012/2013 with 5-10K miles and the price (what I thought) was crazy cheep...

Ive seen the a few post about the clutch basket, this is a good mod to change over to the 2014+ clutch basket. Ive recently seen that Yamaha has cut the price of that basket down a ton, they are now a few hundred bucks if you feel you need it.
 

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If you have the money get the gen2 if the updates matter to you. Otherwise the 1st gen can be a great money saver. I have the 2nd gen in yellow. I was not so much concerned about the price difference it was the features and reliability. I was planning some international travel and other long distance touring so the 2gen was the clear choice. I donot regret it.
 

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Welcome from Texas. I'm the kind of guy that ordered a brand new Jeep with manual everything; had to wait two months to get one without anything. But, I'm also the guy that bought a '17 ES. I didn't think that I would use the cruise very often. . . . I ended up using it all the time. Plenty of guys here will disagree, but the electronic suspension is F'n greatness. Pre-load is set at a stand still. Go from one rider to two, or vice versa, with a push of the button. Rebound/dampening is done on the fly. . . . no stopping. My roads go from silky smooth, to rat shit rough. One setting won't work. I adjust, and enjoy the ride. Ironically, another reason I went ES, is heated hand grips. As it turns out, now that I don't have to ride in the cold. . . . I don't. I haven't ridden a Gen 1, but plenty of guy that have talk about how much more "refined" the Gen 2 is. You don't have your location posted, but there is s difference in Tenere depending on which continent you're on. The UK non-ES bikes don't get a center stand, and rear seat (?). They also seem to have a lot more electrical gremlins due to their weather. So, the older the bike, the bigger the chance for issues.

Make one of those old fashioned lists. . . . what you want on the bike, and what you need on the bike. . . . and then see which bike has checked the most boxes. My money is on the Gen 2 ES.
 

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I've never had a bike with electronic cruise control and never thought I would want it, but I have done so many long rides with the Tenere that I could see using it. I have a Gen 1 so I am using the Kaoko throttle lock which works ok for me now. If you're not in a hurry to buy and you have cash, you can wait for the right one to come by.

A couple thousand dollars difference is substantial, especially if the older bike has a lot of mods that you are interested in. I don't know how vital the clutch basket upgrade is because I haven't done it yet. I installed a manual cam chain tensioner on my bike during the first valve adjustment. If you absolutely demanded it, you can install electronic cruise control for a few hundred dollars. I think the biggest difference is the ES model if that's something you think you want. Once again, I have no experience with it so I can't say if it's awesome or a gimmick and that could also vary per person depending on how you use the bike.

Anyway, let us know what you end up with!
 

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I've had my Gen2 14 for a year now and added 16,000 miles. It was nicely equipped with Alt rider crash bars (yes the do work quite well in slow speed tipover testing), skid plate and pelican bags. Paid less than 9 with less than 9 on the clock and very happy with the machine.

Get a gen 2 and be happy.
 

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My first Tenere was a 2013, hated not having cruise control and that was the main reason I traded for a brandnew 2018 with ES, the extra $1,000.00 for ES includes heated grips and after owning my first motorcycle equipped with heated grips back in the 90’s I sure hope to never own another bike without heated grips. ES was’t a big deal to me but after riding it for 2 years now I’d hate to go back to no ES. There are quite a few miner improvements on the generation two and when I did a test ride I was quite impressed with the differences and was immediately pretty sure I would be buying one.
 

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There are probably more Gen 2's available than Gen 1's at this point and many well equiped. Your question should be ES or NonES.

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If you're convinced you don't need or want the specific upgrades of the Gen 2 such as the available ES suspension, cruise control, integrated heated grips, better gauges, then get a Gen 1. Around here, Gen 1's are significantly cheaper than Gen 2's and stay on the market forever. Gen 2's go near instantly as long as they're priced semi-reasonably.

Remember that a throttle lock is not real cruise control, I've used one for a number of years, it doesn't compare.
 

Moodytico

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Great advice everyone! It's not that I am anti technology, it's just that if I can find a gen 1 set up well I would rather start riding and have some money in my pocket. If I could find a Gen 2 and pay outright that would be ideal. Guess I will just have to scour the internet and find the right bike for me!
 

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If you have to have cruise, that answers your question... If it was me, I would get the 2012, save the money and get a fantastic bike. Ive recently seen a few 2012/2013 with 5-10K miles and the price (what I thought) was crazy cheep...

Ive seen the a few post about the clutch basket, this is a good mod to change over to the 2014+ clutch basket. Ive recently seen that Yamaha has cut the price of that basket down a ton, they are now a few hundred bucks if you feel you need it.
hi TABASCO,

got any links to the price reduced basket

cheers

rob
 

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hi TABASCO,

got any links to the price reduced basket

cheers

rob
I just pulled up one of the big ones. I think they are now about 300. Not 500-600
 
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