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Morgan

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Hi All,
I am trying to decide between two Super Tenere bikes. The first is a 2016 with 10k miles and electronic suspension, the second is a 2020 with 400 miles and standard suspension. The 2020 is £1000 more than the 2016. From what I can tell there have been no major changes to the ST since the change from Gen 1 in 2014. Am I missing something? Was there any substantial changes between these two model years? Both bikes come with no extras, so they seem about the same with the only difference being year and milage and suspension. I plan to mostly do commuting with the occasional longer trip. I don't think the benefits of an electronic suspension would really come into play. Do you agree?

If you were going to choose which would you choose and why? One issue that plays into my decision is the insurance is about £400 more per year for the 2020. I really appreciate any insight you can provide. Thanks!
 
tallpaul

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Just flip a coin, you can't go wildly wrong with either. I was looking for a non ES model but ended up with one as it was the best bike for the money at the time (2nd hand). The ES has turned out to be a bonus because tweaking the suspension on the fly as the road conditions change is actually very beneficial, though not essential. On the other hand a "as near as dammit" new bike for a few quid more is very tempting. As always, you pays your money and takes your choice!
 
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Morgan said:
Hi All,
I am trying to decide between two Super Tenere bikes. The first is a 2016 with 10k miles and electronic suspension, the second is a 2020 with 400 miles and standard suspension. The 2020 is £1000 more than the 2016. From what I can tell there have been no major changes to the ST since the change from Gen 1 in 2014. Am I missing something? Was there any substantial changes between these two model years? Both bikes come with no extras, so they seem about the same with the only difference being year and milage and suspension. I plan to mostly do commuting with the occasional longer trip. I don't think the benefits of an electronic suspension would really come into play. Do you agree?

If you were going to choose which would you choose and why? One issue that plays into my decision is the insurance is about £400 more per year for the 2020. I really appreciate any insight you can provide. Thanks!
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I have a 2015 ES and love it the ES suspension is great however i couldn't turn down the 2020 one its still under warranty everything is new. i think most people will tell you to go for that one.
 
Sierra1

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I think the '16 is priced too high. There's only there's only about $1000 (800 pounds) between ES and non-ES when both are brand new. I would expect a larger price gap for a four year old bike. That being said, I prefer the ES. I do frequently change my suspension settings, 'cuz I ride on crappy roads. I didn't expect to adjust the suspension as much as I do. Also makes it easier/convenient when/if you ride two-up. And, being over there with y'alls weather, you're going to want the heated factory grips. Back when I rode in the cold, heated grips were a gift from heaven.

Edit: oh yeah, if you couldn't tell already. . . . I'd go for the '16, but I'd make them lower the price. Unless tallpaul is right.
 
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I went non ES too with no regrets, don't forget that there's no centre stand either, but a Yamaha kit is only around £175
 
moto.monk

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That 2016 is way over priced it's a sales tactic to buy the newer one because it will seem like a better deal because its only 1k more. When in reality they probably got it for half that. I have a 2016 non es and love it. If your going constantly changing your load I would go es plus you get factory healed grips which I had to pay more for. Also 2019 + gets a stronger rim because they were cracking where the spokes screw in.
 
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With the difference in cost, no question, go with the 2020 standard bike. Adding heated grips is plug and play for the cost of parts ~$220 USD.

FWIW, I picked up a scratch-'n-dent (shipping damaged) NOS '18 earlier this year. It has the improved rear rim design.

~G
 
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Longdog Cymru said:
I was torn between an ES and non-ES, for me, it was the non-ES andI have no regrets.
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It’s true that the non-ES doesn’t come with pillion grab handles, heated grips or centre stand, however mine did come with centre stand fitted and I simply bought and fitted a set of Oxford heated grips. I have found the suspension absolutely fine fine for me, no issues at all. I ride solo and tour with 36 litre Givi Dolomiti cases and a 30 litre Givi Dolomiti top box.
 
Morgan

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Thanks everyone for the great replies. I do thing the 2016 is a bit overpriced, and the 2020 may be marked down a bit. I was told this is the last year they will be sold in Europe, because of EURO 5. Oddly this ES does not have heated grips, another point to bring the price down. I test ride the 2016 on Saturday and if they hit my price I'll take it.
 
fac191

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Morgan said:
Thanks everyone for the great replies. I do thing the 2016 is a bit overpriced, and the 2020 may be marked down a bit. I was told this is the last year they will be sold in Europe, because of EURO 5. Oddly this ES does not have heated grips, another point to bring the price down. I test ride the 2016 on Saturday and if they hit my price I'll take it.
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How much are they asking for it ?
 
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