YesWJBertrand said:So you are recommending more or less caulking all the corners and seams on the inside when you say "lining"?
YesWJBertrand said:So you are recommending more or less caulking all the corners and seams on the inside when you say "lining"?
Just as a matter of interest, the Trax boxes I had on my 2009 Moto Guzzi Stelvio were not at all watertight. As a result, I always made sure I used waterproof bag liners with them. The newer Trax boxes I have on my 2012 Super Tenere, on the other hand, have proven to be watertight, although I still use a waterproof liner with them (my new boxes came complete with the liners) to be sure the contents remain dry in all conditions.Sckill said:A warning on these cases from 1 year of use: they are not waterproof and per Givi were not designed to be. If you have these cases or are looking to buy them, I advise lining the inside edges of the case with a sealant like clear silicone.
I took these cases on a 2 week trip at the end of August and water got into the cases from the bottom corners after riding in rain for a few days. I sent the cases in for warranty claim, but got the below response from Givi earlier this week:
"Just wanted to let you know that your cases were extensively water tested and they passed within the parameters of which they were designed. Since the cases are technically not “water tight,” they may get a very tiny bit of water in them from time to time when exposed to heavy rain. When we tested yours, they were sprayed for a very long time. One case had some condensation on the inside, and the other had maybe a teaspoon worth in the bottom. There again, this is normal since the cases were not designed to be completely water tight."
This is disappointing considering how much these cases cost and the fact that water leaked in through the bottom of the case which should be sealed from the factory. I still like the cases overall and it's an easy remedy to apply silicone to seal it off, but we shouldn't have to do this if these were properly sealed from the factory. I avoided TraX boxes because I heard of the waterproofing issues on earlier cases.
These cases are only 1 year old and were never dropped or beat on. So if you have these cases, be sure to apply extra sealant so you don't end up with wet contents.
I had a similar issue with my Honda ST1100. There was a vent hole on the inside of the bag that was susceptible to water spraying off the rear brake rotor on the left side. The right side had the same vent hole but kept contents dry just fine. I silicone sealed that left vent hole. The case would evidently push open far enough to equilibrate when I rode up into the rocky mountains ~10,000 ft., but not when I came back down. I could not get the lid open for the live of me. Ended up de-mounting the bag and removing the silicone plug - whoosh!Sckill said:I sealed up my cases with silicone on the inside edges as well as the outside bottom edges. After spraying with a hose for a while, no leaks detected. I can understand the air pressure thing, but we'll see if it ever gets to a point where the cases are sealed tight due to air pressure. If it ever gets there, there's the option of making a small gap in the rubber seal of the lid to allow some air in.
proffsionl said:My bags from Motostorm finally made it to Austin! They showed up via Fedex yesterday. Fedex figured out there was no duty on them, which held them up for a day or so. For the record, it took about three weeks to get them (the mounting rack is backordered). Changed out the locks to work on a single key. They may build nice luggage but their instructions really stink.
Overall, very happy with the purchase, have not had a chance to ride with them yet (it keeps raining in Texas), but they look good!
One question for those that have this setup. My left side rack is just barely rubbing the exhaust shield (the front side of the mount). Anyone else had this issue?
Would you like to sell those OEM pannier with the mounting kit at a bargain price?Super08 said:Well I drank the kool aid and now I have a set of black 37/48 Outbacks on the way. I already had the 42l top box so it was only a matter of time. My bike came with the OEM panniers standard. I am not too fond of them however, especially how boxey they look. The key is very stiff to turn and the latch is plastic as are the boxes. They only have some aluminum on the outside for show. I was hoping Givi would have come out with a quick release version of the side frames by now, but no luck. I may order a spare 37 l case for the right side if I feel the 48 is too large for daily use. I don't see 60cm making that big of a difference though. After placing the order this morning I spent part of the afternoon removing the OEM panniers and returning the bike to how it would come from the factory without them in preparation of the Outbacks arriving. I was really tempted to go with the Trax Adventure as they look to be well made and come with quick release side frames. I decided to stay with the Outbacks as I don't like how the SW frames pull the panniers in at the back and the Outbacks are a better looking bag in my opinion. Here is my bike as it was before removing the stock panniers.
I am going to hang on to them for now, plus they are keyed to the ignition so I would have to keep the locks. They will be good incase something happens to the new ones or even to put back on the bike when I sell it. OK I admit it, I'm a pack rat.....abong said:Would you like to sell those OEM pannier with the mounting kit at a bargain price?
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I just measured mine.... 22 inches with locks, 20 inches without locks. Shouldn't be a problem for 2 up ridingHey, can someone tell me the length, front to back of the outbacks. I know it says 495 mm on the website, but does that include the locks, or dimensions of the case? I am trying to decide on cases, including the Dolomiti cases. I know those are 540 mm with locks and the case itself is 495 mm. Wondering if the outbacks are the same. My concern is two-up leg room. Thanks.
Hey, can someone tell me the length, front to back of the outbacks. I know it says 495 mm on the website, but does that include the locks, or dimensions of the case? I am trying to decide on cases, including the Dolomiti cases. I know those are 540 mm with locks and the case itself is 495 mm. Wondering if the outbacks are the same. My concern is two-up leg room. Thanks.
I had leaking cases in 2018 Raid Edition Tenere. Every corner on the bottom. It is imple to seal corners with Wurth glue. Quite a bug from case-factory...A warning on these cases from 1 year of use: they are not waterproof and per Givi were not designed to be. If you have these cases or are looking to buy them, I advise lining the inside edges of the case with a sealant like clear silicone.
I took these cases on a 2 week trip at the end of August and water got into the cases from the bottom corners after riding in rain for a few days. I sent the cases in for warranty claim, but got the below response from Givi earlier this week:
"Just wanted to let you know that your cases were extensively water tested and they passed within the parameters of which they were designed. Since the cases are technically not “water tight,” they may get a very tiny bit of water in them from time to time when exposed to heavy rain. When we tested yours, they were sprayed for a very long time. One case had some condensation on the inside, and the other had maybe a teaspoon worth in the bottom. There again, this is normal since the cases were not designed to be completely water tight."
This is disappointing considering how much these cases cost and the fact that water leaked in through the bottom of the case which should be sealed from the factory. I still like the cases overall and it's an easy remedy to apply silicone to seal it off, but we shouldn't have to do this if these were properly sealed from the factory. I avoided TraX boxes because I heard of the waterproofing issues on earlier cases.
These cases are only 1 year old and were never dropped or beat on. So if you have these cases, be sure to apply extra sealant so you don't end up with wet contents.