GEN III NEW Super Tenere question / info

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Just a thought. If the Gen III "new" Tenere comes out looking like a large version of the new Tenere 700 / T7, what would be your thoughts ? Of course it would have all the latest tech, but your thoughts on it being a BIG T7 ? (looking). No chain, but general looks.


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Looks okay? Nothing exciting. Think they'll have to change the seat. They would definitely have to make many changes because assuming it will be shaft drive for one. The seat will need more because being a higher CC bike it will need to be comfort for longer distant cruising. Also frame will need to be different to accommodate pannier racks and need more frame to stabilize carrying more. Just my take. Looks somewhat like a crossbreed between a KTM990 and Africa Twin.
 

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I'm in agreement....but I think that's why the SUPER Tenere looks the way it does. ::001::
 

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Intriguing thought and would not be surprised if they get as much resemblence as possible. It'd be good for both product lines.
But generational differences in Yamahas don't tend to stray much after they get the product as firmed up as the Tenere is. If you look at a current and 1st Gen FJR, there's no question that they are the same line. Even the R1, R6, and other Ricky Racer bikes have kept a lot of old DNA in their looks and feel.
 

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The fuel tank is a central styling element. I would not like them to make that smaller in capacity.
 

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I still like the looks of the Gen1 and 2, and have never gotten sick of looking at the beauty. For Gen3, make it more efficient, more drive modes and programmable modes ( Flashing ecu will be a thing of the past), separate LCD's to display status such as time, fuel consumption, coolant temps, oil temps, ambient temps, etc.. Analogue tachometer with LCD speedo. Keep the same looks.
 

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IF, there is a new version then the fuel tank will get smaller, they will have to make the engine more efficient so it will consume less fuel and so the need for a large tank will be dispensed with. As with a lot of newer version of bikes.
The end range will be the same.
 

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I'd like the following: 40lbs lighter, LED headlights, lean ABS, a quick shifter, TC switchable on the fly and a TFT dash.

 

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twinrider said:
I'd like the following: 40lbs lighter, LED headlights, lean ABS, a quick shifter, TC switchable on the fly and a TFT dash.

yes, yes, don't care, don't care, yes, don't care :) and possibel to turn rear ABS off 8)
 

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Dogdaze said:
IF, there is a new version then the fuel tank will get smaller, they will have to make the engine more efficient so it will consume less fuel and so the need for a large tank will be dispensed with. As with a lot of newer version of bikes.
The end range will be the same.
I'm not completely satisfied with the range currently. I guess I'm spoiled by my previous ST1300 which had a 7.7 gallon tank, got similar mileage, and would easily go more than 300 miles. I once ran it 352 miles when there wasn't a gas station where the GPS said there should have been. Ultimately, many more miles further, I found a station where the GPS said there wasn't one, go figure. I was surprised that there was still a half gallon left when I finally refilled. From previous experience I knew I could run it down to more than 7.6 gallons to refill. I'm good with the additional efficiency and or a larger tank for the Tenere, better yet, both!
 

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I wonder how well those headlights will work at night. Although it helps with the slim profile, I much rather have the headlights a little wider and incorporate the cornering lights that is on the FJR.
 
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I like the looks of what we have now a lot better than the 700. I liked the 660 looks, but the 700 is too KTM. If they change the super tenere in any way to resemble a KTM I don't want it. Not that I don't like KTM. I'll take a nice KTM dirt bike any day, just don't want a street bike with a 1" thick seat that is 4" wide extending on top of the 2.5 gallon whatever gas tank for a street bike as it's not functional on the street.
As to losing weight, look at the new goldwing. They ruined 80% of the best parts of the bike to lose weight. I'm sure not buying.
 

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From a usually reliable source, the gen 3 S10 will come out as an early release 2020 model next summer, with more powerful twin, lean angle ABS, tft dash, and led headlights, among other changes. This is from a corporate meeting last month.
 

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kingfisher said:
From a usually reliable source, the gen 3 S10 will come out as an early release 2020 model next summer, with more powerful twin, lean angle ABS, tft dash, and led headlights, among other changes. This is from a corporate meeting last month.
Interesting. Wonder if it will be an all new engine or a souped version of the current one?
 

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I don't know, just reported as " more powerful," but specifics were not related. I think it has plenty of power now, but would not turn down more output if it was offered. :) My 2015 has close to 50,000 miles on it, so plenty of life left, but I'll be interested to see what the new one offers.
 

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Guess this thread is a bit out of date since the last post, but we're getting close to summer 2019 now and still no news about any Gen 3 S10. (At least not what I can find on the Internet.) Do you think those sources mentioned previously are reliable?

From my perspective, I would like to see the following:
  • Reduced weight (Maybe 20-30 lbs is realistic.)
  • + 20 hp (but more importantly, a flatter torque curve, smoothing out the dip around 3800 rpm)
  • LED headlights
  • Quick shifter
  • TFT dash
  • Smoother throttle response, especially in S-mode
  • Lighter clutch pull
  • Gear indicator that shows which gear you're in even when the clutch is pulled (I find this very annoying today)
  • Outside air temp gague that is accurate and reliable
  • Fuel range indicatior that doesn't tell you that you can go forever and then suddenly drop to reserve very fast, even if there is plenty of fuel left.
  • Dynamic suspension, adapting rear preload to whatever load is put on the bike automatically (like with the new Tiger 1200)
  • Better front brakes
  • 120/70 R19 and 170/60 R17 tire dimensions
  • Keyless drive
Having said all of this; please dont change all the good things about the bike, such as fuel economy, low COG, reliability, timeless design, absence of a beek, 23l fuel capacity, comfortable seat, etc. etc. :)
 
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I've seen spy shots, they come back down to 750cc and chain based final drive, of course no TFT screen because motorcycle is not a phone.
I will pre order soon.

 

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TFT dashboard its definitely something that I dont want to see on the s10. Its and on/off bike by design and spirit. I always do long trips and dream about crossing america (I rode all the way from argetina to brazil but I did not have much time to do it all). What I allways want from a bike its a way that I can fix it on the road. Led light will be awesome, but if they are proprietary design from yamaha and one light stop working you cannot fix it by replacing the bulb. Same with the tft dashboard that could easily die and leave you without any info.
 

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To Mr Bex's list I would add a TCS system that is switchable underway from the handlebar and that stays in it's selected setting when the bike is turned off. A less fiddly windscreen adjustment that could be done underway like the Tracer GT's and VFR1200X's one-handed mechanical designs. Larger fuel capacity would be welcome, but perhaps I'm spoiled from riding Honda STs with their 7+ gallon capacities. I could take or leave the lighter clutch pull, active suspension (likely expensive), tire size change and keyless drive though.
 
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