From Off Road riding/racing. Why do you Dual Sport?

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Several folks in area have moved away from racing and off road only riding to D/S. A local club is considering changing to an D/S format stepping away from the off road/racing aspect of riding.

For those of you who used to chase points & awards racing or used to only ride off road; why did you drift away to D/S riding???
 

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I went dual sport because I like the riding position, the nimble yet rugged nature of the bike and the option to do some light off roading
 

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num said:
I went dual sport because I like the riding position, the nimble yet rugged nature of the bike and the option to do some light off roading
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Got too old and fat to go fast and\or break bones. I heal too slowly.
Besides, I was really only chasing my big brother and cousins and nephews.
They were ALL faster than me. Just wanted to be like them.

On second thought, it's because now I am no longer immature. Yea, that's it.
 

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snakebitten said:
Got too old and fat to go fast and\or break bones. I heal too slowly.
I'm slowly learning the same lesson, except I used the Tenere' to do it. About three months ago, in trying to keep up with a DS650 I nailed a wheel eating hole and got launched off the bike. I didn't believe it at the time but Mr. MRI said that I really tore up my Rotator Cuff. Just had surgery last Friday and now I have months of PT to look forward to which will be more painful then the hit I took.
 

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snakebitten said:
On second thought, it's because now I am no longer immature. Yea, that's it.
I.m still immature, Motocross, Colorado trails, as much off road as I can get in.
 

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eemsreno said:
I.m still immature, Motocross, Colorado trails, as much off road as I can get in.
LOL. Yea, but I've seen you ride. You have no reason to grow up yet. :)

Tell the other 3 hello from Texas.
 

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My last "street legal" off road bike was a highly strung WR450 that I ran enduros and hare scrambles with. It was a lousy excuse for a road bike unless you were at 10 10ths on a gravel road. Off road, I was beginning to believe that it wanted to thumb me in the ground like a golf tee if I got too frisky.

It's nice to be able to explore the same gravel roads and most of the same trails (although at a much slower pace), then be able to jump on the highway and fly home. Or head to Nova Scotia for the weekend, or ride to work in the morning when it's 30 degrees and not freeze to death, etc.
 

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I never raced and I don't consider the Super Ténéré a dual-sport bike. I get that some people with far better skills than me ride them that way, but I have a WR250R for dual sport riding.

As to the original question of why - the reason is that I like to ride my motorcycle from my house, as far out in the boondocks as I can go, and camp out. That's pretty much my definition of dual-sport riding.

Not that the Tenere can't do that, it's just the experience of me picking up that 600+-lb. beast on a slippery slope that encourages me to stick to lighter weight bikes when riding where the likelihood of dropping them is higher.
 

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wfopete said:
I'm slowly learning the same lesson, except I used the Tenere' to do it. About three months ago, in trying to keep up with a DS650 I nailed a wheel eating hole and got launched off the bike. I didn't believe it at the time but Mr. MRI said that I really tore up my Rotator Cuff. Just had surgery last Friday and now I have months of PT to look forward to which will be more painful then the hit I took.
Good luck with healing up Pete! Hope to ride with you again.

Chris
 

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sail2xxs said:
Good luck with healing up Pete!
::026::

Never been a racer. The time/money scenario never worked out to let it happen. I think I would have loved it. Closest I ever came was taking a "Learn to Race Baja" course from Tim Morton. Got my ass handed to me in the sand down there. Just don't know how to ride sand.

I did grow up dirt riding most every day for a few years during a very impressionable age. I didn't have a super capable bike (Kawasaki, KE100), but I did learn to push that thing to it's limits, and eventually beyond. It was retired after I exploded the transmission. It served some very hard years. And I learned a lot of great lessons, both riding and wrenching.

Adulthood meant some additional disposable income and finally some monster dirt bikes. I love dirt bikes and the dirt because the only limits are the ones you put on yourself. There are no cops to tell you to slow down, if you have the balls to do it, then let it fly. It's where I feel free to run at my personal limits. I love that feeling of freedom.

I reluctantly gave it up due to a lack of local riding areas. Hauling dirt toys 3 to 6 hours away to ride just took its toll. About that same time I bought a DL1000 V-Strom and discovered twisty road riding could be fun, too. That bike changed my life. I went from riding 1000 street miles a year, to 1000 miles a month. It was a great street bike for me, and I loved it. Ironically buying the S10 has put me back off pavement again, and reawakened my love of dirt.

I'm older now, but still have fast dirt riding in my blood. This past spring while riding with spklbuk I found myself flying on the S10 on some great mountain dirt roads. Later at camp spklbuk was telling me he got all that motocross stuff out of his system. I have to admit, I don't. I love gritting my teeth, hammering the throttle and flying as fast as my nerve will allow me. I'm just not done yet. Yes, I'm older, and I don't heal as quickly, but damn-it, I feel I can still ride fast and safely, so I'm going to do it until the thrill is gone. The S10 inspired me to buy a little WR250 so I can satisfy that need for true off road satisfaction.
 

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I did rally in cars in my old trusty Datsuns and some track.

Eventually I realized that all I remembered was the same old tracks, dirt or not.

One day I was sitting at a lookout (Um whatever you yanks call it overlook or something) watching the sun set and the light glistening off the small dams in the valley.

It was one of those moments when I realized that all the bike riding I did was to explore at a slower pace and I remembered a lot more, met a lot of good people and it was far more enjoyable and some of my best memories were when not on the race scene.

Grasshopper, I said yo myself, as Kung Fu was popular at the time, "It is about the journey you idiot", Stop wasting time perusing stupid medals and go and explore.

So from that point on I spent a lot more time on my little CB400 exploring. (It had sensible things like crash bars and racks as standard). I rode that bike for a long time, even in the two weeks of non riding season, :p we have here.

Once "Dual Sports" were re-invented I became interested again. Financial reasons meant that I kept that bike for a while, as I became poor white trash and had to take up the redneck lifestyle but I eventually the industry started being more than focused "Race bred every bloody thing" and came out with some "General Purpose bikes" again and my financial situation improved. I started doing research which is why I never bought an overpriced Bavarian Tractor.

I was so impressed by the fact that there were other brands out there as the experience with the Honda NEVER breaking over 10 years had left it's mark. I bought another bike. An SV650, known to be a good all round bike.

Bullshit I said after few months, but persisted.

And that eventually led me to the Super Ten Touring General Purpose go almost anywhere there is a resemblance of a road bike I have now after a slight diversion into Jacked up street bike land with the DL1000.

So that is why I ended up back where I was when I was 10 years old on my push bike. Exploring, stopping for a look see, scaring the crap out of myself in a different way, improving my slow riding skills, fast riding skills, balance, Iron Butting, smelling the fields of Canola, Dead animals, riding through rain front in the desert, pushing through cold, rain, heat, experiencing it all fast slow whatever. Lot's more variety.

If you leave the stop watch at home, you can push yourself just as hard for different reasons, BUT if you feel like chilling out you can too, usually with some good people that give you a new perspective on some things. All you have to learn is to be at peace and stop being competitive. Fall over, have a laugh at your own expense.

I never liked organized stuff anyway. I like the "go that way and see what happens" thing better and it's fun if you can sit around a fire at night and talk as well.
 

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I hope you heal soon Pete and that the PT goes smooth and fast. ::008::

Way back when my friends and I started out on dual sports and then later went to racing for about 20 years. It took me longer to mature than Snake (I think...Not sure? LOL) but when I did we all went back to our roots and after we did we all wondered why we ever left dual sport/adventure bike riding in the first place. :)

GrahamD said:
Eventually I realized that all I remembered was the same old tracks, dirt or not.

One day I was sitting at a lookout (Um whatever you yanks call it overlook or something) watching the sun set and the light glistening off the small dams in the valley.

It was one of those moments when I realized that all the bike riding I did was to explore at a slower pace and I remembered a lot more, met a lot of good people and it was far more enjoyable and some of my best memories were when not on the race scene.
That pretty much says it for me too. Spot on GrahamD ::008::
 

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wfopete said:
I'm slowly learning the same lesson, except I used the Tenere' to do it. About three months ago, in trying to keep up with a DS650 I nailed a wheel eating hole and got launched off the bike. I didn't believe it at the time but Mr. MRI said that I really tore up my Rotator Cuff. Just had surgery last Friday and now I have months of PT to look forward to which will be more painful then the hit I took.
I too, hope you heal soon, but I have to wonder what the hell you were doing trying to keep up with an ATV on a commuter bike. ??? :D
 

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I too, hope you heal soon, but I have to wonder what the hell you were doing trying to keep up with an ATV on a commuter bike. ??? :D
Pete, I hope it doesn't hurt when you laugh. ::025::

Now Pete you have to admit that was funny.
 

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He did deserve that! Lol

He can take it. He's obviously a tuff feller!
 

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wfopete said:
I'm slowly learning the same lesson, except I used the Tenere' to do it. About three months ago, in trying to keep up with a DS650 I nailed a wheel eating hole and got launched off the bike. I didn't believe it at the time but Mr. MRI said that I really tore up my Rotator Cuff. Just had surgery last Friday and now I have months of PT to look forward to which will be more painful then the hit I took.
I've been there myself. My "sopraspinatus" snapped... I wish you a speedy recovery.

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My "sopraspinatus" snapped".

A what? That sounds not good!


Snakebitten..

"It's not the age it's the miles"

I just like slow and camping now, although I do miss a lighter nimbler bike as a matter of fact I miss the lighter nimbler Me as well Lol!! :D
 

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Scott; that's what I kept telling myself while chasing the 650 (It was a Suzuki DS650 motorcycle). In fact, the instrument panel kept flashing "Not in Commuting Mode". ::005:: I was having great fun rolling along in third gear and reeling the little Suzuki in with just a twist of the throttle. Eventually I zigged when I should have zagged and the fun stopped. Then as I was sailing thru the air I remembered what my wife said as I left the house: "Don't get a scratch on that bike!!!". But I still can't stay off of dirt bikes or racing them. I'm hooked on vintage motocross and Cross County racing. Got over a dozen of these old bikes in my barn; an XR, a couple of Penton Jackpiners, a 74 CR250 Elsinore, KTMs, YZs, a Suzuki TM400, Hodaka and a Husky & Jawa thrown in there somewhere. I beat the crap out of my 74 YZ250 for years (see below) in hare scrambles & MX events without ever even pulling the top end. Finally I parked it because I didn't want to scatter the motor and ruin it.

There is something so cool about lining up at a gate full of these old bikes for a motocross or grass track race. Anyone who has raced knows the fun of battling with someone and winning or losing by inches. A couple of years ago I restored a 1980 YZ465 and had a blast riding it. This year my goal is to race the 465 at Unadilla's MX Rewind event. But as much fun racing is, I have to give the nod to a weekend of just going out with friends for a fun trail ride. For now I'll just que up my "On Any Sunday" DVD & wait for the healing process to play out.
 

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