From FJR to S10

EricV

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Welcome to the forum. Take a moment to put your location in your profile. It gives context to your posts and helps others answer any questions you may have better since there are differences between US/Canada and EU bikes.

There are a lot of S10 owners that have come from the FJR, including myself. I'm on my second S10, having put 100k miles on the first Gen I, now 35k miles on a Gen II. I put 160k miles on my '04 FJR A. So yes, I'm happy with the change. ;)

The Feej will always have more power and that turbine like smooth delivery. The S10 is a noisy motor but has enough grunt to get the job done. I shift more on the S10 than I did on the FJR.

The hip to knee ratio on the S10 is so much more friendly to my aging body. I still think the FJR has better weather protection, but with the side wind protectors and a taller main screen the S10 is acceptable. The S10 handles cross winds a little better. Two up your pillion may want lower foot pegs, but that was true on the FJR as well. And a back rest with a custom seat is recommended on both too.
 

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I kept the FJR for a while when I got my first S10. After riding the S10 for a while and getting on the FJR you realize how much more you pull your feet up and bend your knees for the riding position. The 'sit up and beg' position of the S10 is much more neutral.
 

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Welcome aboard! If you need any help with the forum, feel free to reach out to myself or checkswrecks. If you spent any time on the FJR Forum, you will probably recognize a lot of the screen names (myself included). I still had my 08 FJR when I got the ST, and after spending plenty of time on the ST, jumping back on the FJR made it feel small. I also had both bikes when A work trip came up that I was able to incorporate a SS1000 cert ride, and I chose the ST, simply because it was so much more comfortable for me.
 
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I am among those swithcing from FJR to ST. For me ST is much more nimble, easier to handle and more comfortable riding position up to the speeds of 140 km/h. Over that, the air resistance, noise and rattle of ST would make it less comfortable than FJR. Otherwise I am more than happy with ST. My wife, though, complains a bit that there was more space on FJR pillon seat than on ST, she keeps hitting me with her helmet on sharper stops. I've been riding on ST for 10 000 km now, so I guess I have got a pretty good feeling about it. It is mostly stock, I had to change the seat to the Touratech one though, the OEM was impossible for me .
 
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I am among those swithcing from FJR to ST. For me ST is much more nimble, easier to handle and more comfortable riding position up to the speeds of 140 km/h. Over that, the air resistance, noise and rattle of ST would make it less comfortable than FJR. Otherwise I am more than happy with ST. My wife, though, complains a bit that there was more space on FJR pillon seat than on ST, she keeps hitting me with her helmet on sharper stops. I've been riding on ST for 10 000 km now, so I guess I have got a pretty good feeling about it. It is mostly stock, I had to change the seat to the Touratech one though, the OEM was impossible for me .
So you are happy having switched ? Yes we too bump helmets on the odd occasion mainly when I switch to sport mode. I like to travel some distance just a bit worried how the ST will handle hammering through Germany and miles of fast motorway riding. The ST would be better for some of the roads in Eastern Europe are in a sad state just really need one bike that ticks most boxes.
Also I would like to slow down a bit as the FJR is too quick and here in the UK a very good way of losing your licence :)
 

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I own both and would like to sell my FJR, had it up for sale for awhile but not bites. The S10 is my favorite bike of all time. It is not the best at anything, but does everything well.
 
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I'm on my second Tenere and still have my FJR. I would hate to have to choose between one or the other but the ability to run off road would likely seal the deal for the Tenere.
 

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For a while I had both, the FJR from 2009 to 2017 with a 5 year overlap when I bought my pre-owned S10 in 2012. I found I was useing the FJR less and less, mainly because as I get older the FJR was becoming more uncomfortable to ride for more than an hour. With the Tenere I sit more upright and no sporty rideing position for my legs. I have now also sold my old Yamaha XJR 1300 for the same reason.
 
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I like to travel some distance just a bit worried how the ST will handle hammering through Germany and miles of fast motorway riding. The ST would be better for some of the roads in Eastern Europe are in a sad state just really need one bike that ticks most boxes.
Also I would like to slow down a bit as the FJR is too quick and here in the UK a very good way of losing your licence :)
I did a trip in Europe this summer, from Estonia through Sweden, Denmark to Germany and back through Poland. In Germany and Poland had some occations on the motorway and 140 km/ h was the highest speed I was comfortable with. After that the noise and buzz became uncomfortable for me, although the bike had enough power to go 200.
For me also the ergos of ST fit much better than those of FJR, though I had farkled it pretty considerably.
 

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Like many others, I run both (along with a couple of other bikes) - a 2014 FJR AE 5 speed & a 2014 Super10 ES.

Both are excellent bikes, but the S10 is so much more versatile in the final analysis. The FJR only does the occasional tour these days so may have to go next spring; we shall see.
 

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Welcome from Texas. I too am one of the many that made the jump. (although I still have an FJ, and the FJR is still in the family) But, don't think that you will slow down all that much on the Tenere. She's much quicker/faster than you expect her to be; but, no, she not an InterContinental Ballistic Motorcycle like the FJR. And, yes, I'm completely satisfied with the switch; favorite bike ever.
 

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Not a former FJR owner, but have a lot of experience with similar bikes.

During the last 4 years I've done 100.000 km around Europe on a T12. If you mainly ride tarmac I can't think of a better tool for the job.
If I have to cover distance in a hurry, I can sit on the Autobahn doing 150 km/h all day with no issues.
The upright riding position and great handling makes a day riding hairpins in the mountains fun and relaxed.
The suspension is great on bad road surfaces like you often encounter in former Eastern Europe.
 

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Had an FJR, loved it but like many others, found the legs/knees too cramped. Went to the ST, very comfortable.

The ST is the "Batmobile" of motorcycles; it does everything well and its capabilities are surprising!
 

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As EricV first wrote, many of us here came from the FJRForum. I had two FJRs and am now on my second Tenere. The FJR is a great bike and I still love the looks and turbine smooth power but I've never regretted moving to the Tenere.

As for the autobahn, the aerodynamics slow the acceleration above about 80-85 mph (135-140-ish kph) but it'll get up to around 125 mph (190-ish kph) on a long stretch. The issue then becomes the rating of the adventure tires available. If doing a lot of highway, there are road tires with high speed ratings which fit.

A lot of questions like this have been asked and answered, so like AvGeek wrote, the search box is a great resource.
 
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