Electrical / Cigarette Outlet and Fuse

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Re: Accessory Outlet on ST

I use the existing dc outlet circuit to power my gps. I re-wired the socket with a 15 amp fuse directly to the battery. I now use it to mainly power my sparrow air pump.
 

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That would be my improvement is to replace it with something that can be useful like a 10 amp plus outlet from powerlet ?
 

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I kept the stocker for charging the cell phone and Contour camera. I added an all weather plug with a 25 amp fuse wired to the battery for air pumps for tires and mattress. Mounted on a frame rail just next to the edge of the right side panel. Easy access but out of the way.
 

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Now that I think about it, I have 3 power plugs - all different.
1. The stock cigarette lighter plug that I use for my GPS
2. The Battery Tender pigtail popping out near the battery that I only user to plug in the tender
3. Firstgear heated gear power plug between seat and tank that I won't be using in the summertime

I need to make these disparate plug types useful in a multi-purpose way. I have things to recharge like phones, cameras, and intercoms. I may be out of luck on the camera because it's AC only, but the phones and intercoms are USB adaptable.

My question is, can I take a USB plug like the one shown in the OP's first post and make a plug for it to connect to one of my available outlets?
 

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Boondocker, I have four plugs LOL. Same as you plus the 25 amp. My GPS is wired into power. For $10 from Walmart you can get an adapter to charge two USB devices. Just plugs straight into the factory auxiliary plug.
 

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cbat said:
Boondocker, I have four plugs LOL. Same as you plus the 25 amp. My GPS is wired into power. For $10 from Walmart you can get an adapter to charge two USB devices. Just plugs straight into the factory auxiliary plug.
The only problem with the cig lighter plug is they don't work so well (widely varying fit) with vibs or rougher roads. My GPS was continually losing power (so I hardwired it), but the radar detector is much better...only lose power every so often.
 

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stevepsd said:
The only problem with the cig lighter plug is they don't work so well (widely varying fit) with vibs or rougher roads. My GPS was continually losing power (so I hardwired it), but the radar detector is much better...only lose power every so often.
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I had a GPS that did that on a different bike, but so far all my plugs fit snugly into 'Rey's' outlet. I didn't want to take a chance with the electronic toll collection transponder, so that is hard-wired.
 

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Boondocker said:
Now that I think about it, I have 3 power plugs - all different.
I have a simular setup:

1. The stock cigarette lighter plug. Not used yet.
2. The Battery Tender pigtail routed near the left dash area. Used to plug in the tender and air pump.
3. USB waterproof plugin I got from Burnsmoto.com. It is routed parallel to the Battery Tender line and comes out near the left dash / grip area. I use this to power my GPS and charge my iPhone.

Both #2 and#3 are wired directly to the battery.

I have OEM heated grips and OEM fog lights and for now, I'm done with the wiring mods.



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Hey all, tried charging the nav last week via the outlet upfront, no juice, seems to be dead as fried chicken. I use it in the car and my other bike, works every time. This was the first and only time I used the outlet on ST since I got it. Im gona check the fuses but i was wondering if this is something that may be known?
 

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528,

That is a little 3A circuit and will very easily pop if you'd plugged in something like a little air pump, like so many of us early on. ::002:: Come on give it up, you plugged in something like that at some point right, what was it, a Vacuum Cleaner? Corn popper? was it a Blender? ::025::

I run my cell, GPS, video and comm device off that 3A circuit no prob, but have added an Eastern Beaver(3CS) for additional power: http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Products/Fuseboxes/3_Circuit/3_circuit.html

3A fuse is Easily swapped out under the R side cover, good to carry extras. Some folks have upgraded/replaced that circuit or added other(s) to support larger juice.

Best, d ::001::

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+1. You won't blow that fuse just by charging a nav unit.

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So not that hard to upgrade it to 10 amps or so as I would like to run a Slime compressor and charge the bike with a tender also . or just stay with the idea of the SAE two prong that came with the slime
 

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528Hz said:
Hey all, tried charging the nav last week via the outlet upfront, no juice, seems to be dead as fried chicken. I use it in the car and my other bike, works every time. This was the first and only time I used the outlet on ST since I got it. Im gona check the fuses but i was wondering if this is something that may be known?
Are you trying to use it with the ignition off?[
 

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imrubicon said:
So not that hard to upgrade it to 10 amps or so as I would like to run a Slime compressor and charge the bike with a tender also . or just stay with the idea of the SAE two prong that came with the slime
While you can upgrade the fuse, the wire gauge is too small to support that much current. Until I can do a full fuse block install, I added a temporary cig outlet, wired directly to the battery.
 

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I plugged in the nav into the outlet while the bike was idling in neutral. Nothing happened. I did not use blenders or anything like that ::001::
Maybe the dealer where I got the bike tested it with something who knows, I called the service today about it and they asked me if the super tenere was a generator, so I wouldn't be surprised. Im gona check the fuses today, but the general idea I get from the comments is that the outlet is pretty much weak and swapping the fuse wont gain much because of weak wiring.
When you guys refer to a fuse block, you talking about the one from twisted throttle?
I gotta get this baby fully prepped before jun 30th when I head out on my NY - Prudhoe Bay arctic express ::001:: ::26::
I wanna make sure my electric smoothie maker/bear zapper works through the outlet that yamaha put there ::013::
I have the battery tender cable connected to the battery and I have the battery tender power outlet with the cable that can connect to it, that one works fine.
 

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Install the pigtail for the battery tender, wired directly to the battery (fuse in place of course). That pigtail is perfect for your Slime compressor, which you want to run ignition off. I have this on all my vehicles and use a Slime compressor almost every weekend to pump up the tires on my WR250R when I come off the dirt.

I have a coax type outlet for my Firstgear heated gloves and only use the cig outlet for powering my GPS. I have an FZ1 fuseblock to support several accessories with room for more. You can never have too many outlets :lamp:

imrubicon said:
So not that hard to upgrade it to 10 amps or so as I would like to run a Slime compressor and charge the bike with a tender also . or just stay with the idea of the SAE two prong that came with the slime
 

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528Hz said:
I plugged in the nav into the outlet while the bike was idling in neutral. Nothing happened.
Most nav electronics are low-current, so f you haven't blown the fuse by attempting to connect a high-current load (e.g., heated gear) it is unlikely to be the fuse. But certainly it would be the first thing to check - the fuse box is under the right side panel. Someone posted on here recently which one it is.

I get from the comments is that the outlet is pretty much weak and swapping the fuse wont gain much because of weak wiring.
The circuit is fused for 3A which is sufficient for electronic gadgets, but not for any kind of heated load, aux lights, etc. To my knowledge, no one has really looked at the wiring and made a judgment of whether the wiring is capable of higher current than 3A, but I'd bet you could put a 5A fuse in there and still be safe. Beyond this, you're probably running some risk that you might be pulling a load that would overheat the wiring.

Another problem with the std aux socket is that it is a cig-lighter type and they're notorious for vibrating loose. There have been some who have converted them over to the more secure powerlet/BMW type. I left the dash one cig-lighter and instead installed a Powerlet on the right side of the bike fed from a Easter Beaver 3CS (see below). Also have a SAE inline connector which I hook to the unswitched 3CS with a high-amp fuse - I use this for battery charging and running an air pump.

When you guys refer to a fuse block, you talking about the one from twisted throttle?
Numerous vendors sell various fuse block accessories that provide an array of fused connections for devices. I like the stuff Eastern Beaver sells and a number of us have hooked up the 3CS under the right side panel which can be ordered specifically for the S10 with the correct connector to sense key-on from the aux light connector making it truly plug-n-play.



Numerous threads about aux electrical setups on this forum.

- Mark
 

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Thanks Mark, will look into various fuse blocks.
Aside from that, sure enough purple 3A fuse was blown. I used a spare and the nav now works.
Not sure what happened there. Most likely came from the dealer like that since this was my first time using the outlet, no biggie, fuse replaced.
 

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Are you kidding me the acc plug is a joke.This is the bike that Yamaha built to rival the Mighty GS and so called go around the world on.Come on Yamaha what would it have cost you to put a plug that would support heated clothing a extra $5.00 dollars to make it nice for the cold weather riders. Some times you corporate types are thinking with your a$$.If you wanted to break into this adventure category…then bring the good stuff. The alternator can put out plenty of juice wakeup corporate ::009::!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::009::
 
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