Crash bar installation SW Motech bars

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I'm planning to install my SW Motech crash bars on my new Ten this coming weekend (March 23rd, 2018).
I'll be using blue lok-tight to secure the bolts.
Does lok-tight have a minimum temperature to allow it to set properly??
My garage is not heated and local temperatures here are maybe 7 or 8 C (42-44 F) daytime and around freezing at night.
Thoughts?? Thanks
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No.
That's not a problem.
Ok thanks for your reply, just looked up loctite on Google and there appears to be no temperature restrictions, but it does take 24 hours to completely set.
I'm hoping the installation goes easily.
Six bolts to contend with. I'll be sure to remove only one bolt at a time and support the engine with a small jack.
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By the way...I never use lock tite on my motorcycles...
And never lost a singel bolt.:)
Interesting, the instructions from Sw Motech say: use blue lok-tight. In addition to securing the bolts and the nuts, lok-tight serves as an anti vibration substance to prevent bolts coming loose. In addition, lok-tight rust proofs the threads, hence making it easier to remove the nuts and bolts (if necessary) years later.
Thanks for your input
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Interesting, the instructions from Sw Motech say: use blue lok-tight. In addition to securing the bolts and the nuts, lok-tight serves as an anti vibration substance to prevent bolts coming loose. In addition, lok-tight rust proofs the threads, hence making it easier to remove the nuts and bolts (if necessary) years later.
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Lok-tight is used extensively on aircraft applications.
In addition to other methods securing nuts and bolts.
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Yes, I know it is used a lot, and I really like the use of it on aeroplanes (and other moving stuff).
I also know that many instructions recomend this, but anyway, I don't use it.
And the statement from lock tite, that it prevent rust on the tread, might be correct, but what use it that, if the tread outside the nut, is rustet.
 

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Yes, I know it is used a lot, and I really like the use of it on aeroplanes (and other moving stuff).
I also know that many instructions recomend this, but anyway, I don't use it.
And the statement from lock tite, that it prevent rust on the tread, might be correct, but what use it that, if the tread outside the nut, is rustet.
Hmmm.....I think locktite is referring to the thread area in the bolt hole that is not visible.
Oh well, I'll just follow the instructions as I already have some blue lok-tight.
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got sw motech crash bars on mine take them on and off regularly never use loctite

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Thanks Rob, when installing the SW Motech bars, I am a little nervous about removing the two large bolts at the front of the engine. I understand they must be removed one at a time and to support the engine from below to keep the bolt holes aligned.
Why do you remove your bars? Are the electrical and fuse panels accessable with the Motech bars on?
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i dont support anything under neath nothing moves just do one side at a time its a real easy job
Thanks Rob, for the information, much appreciated.
Yes, do one side at a time. There are small plastic bumpers that come with the bike. These are removed I know because the bolt holes are used to attach the crash bars.
Do you put these plastic bumpers back on with the crash bars or not?
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no those bumpers can,t go back on thats where the crash bar fits
Ok thanks, that is what I thought. So I will remove them and store them in a safe place, along with the panniers. Although I have not taken delivery of my new bike (winter) I brought my panniers home and unpacked them only to find the right pannier damaged.
The plastic handles are cheap garbage. Unfortunately, Yamaha gave no option to take the panniers as they come with the bike.
I will likely just store the panniers and use some soft bags that I used on my Africa Twin.
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By the way...I never use lock tite on my motorcycles...
And never lost a singel bolt.:)
I somehow find that very difficult to believe. Unless your are checking every nut and bolt after each ride.
 

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I somehow find that very difficult to believe. Unless your are checking every nut and bolt after each ride.
Well, believe it or not, it is true.
And No, I only go through my motorbikes in the winter. BUT I tend to go around and just look many times during the summer, because it is parked in my right beside the front door, and I like to go and "do nothing" ;). But even here, no loose bolt found...
 
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Pretty amazing to say the least. I have always found loose hardware on every single bike I have ever owned. I wish I knew the secret!! Hell I use Loctite, safety wire, etc, and still find loose hardware on a regular basis.....
 

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Pretty amazing to say the least. I have always found loose hardware on every single bike I have ever owned. I wish I knew the secret!! Hell I use Loctite, safety wire, etc, and still find loose hardware on a regular basis.....
Yes, agree. I flew airplanes and some helicopters in my working days. If you don't look, you will not find.
My boss once said to me: "How come you are always finding something wrong?" My reply was, simply, because I take the time to look.
Simple things like fuel caps, oil sticks not in place can lead to big headaches and cost you money. Wallet or keys left on a surface on the bike, the list goes on....
If you have left your bike unattended, always take a moment and look it over. Could be a nail in a tyre, or some smart-ass has done something to your bike.
Only takes a minute or two.
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Yes, agree. I flew airplanes and some helicopters in my working days. If you don't look, you will not find.
My boss once said to me: "How come you are always finding something wrong?" My reply was, simply, because I take the time to look.
Simple things like fuel caps, oil sticks not in place can lead to big headaches and cost you money. Wallet or keys left on a surface on the bike, the list goes on....
If you have left your bike unattended, always take a moment and look it over. Could be a nail in a tyre, or some smart-ass has done something to your bike.
Only takes a minute or two.
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Funny you mention that!! I just finished up going over my Beta this morning for an upcoming Jimmy Lewis class. I did the normal service then put it up on the lift and found a bunch of loose bolts. I went so far as to safety wire my spokes. Stupid crap like loose battery terminals, spokes, subframe bolts, kickstand bolt, etc. I'm so happy I did this!! I have to admit I've been very lazy doing the basic "after race check" since I quite racing in 2007. I was never that good anyway. Never made it past a slow novice. It did take me more than a few minutes but well worth it. Thanks for the tip SHUMBA!

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