brake pads

[billyp]

Anyone replace rear brake pads with under 20,000 miles? Failed inspection today.Never had to do it this soon.

 

[whisperquiet]

I replaced a set of rear pads at 17,000 miles on my 2012 S10 because of an upcoming trip. I still have the old pads as spares and they look to be about 50% worn. My 2013 S10 had well over 25,000 miles on the original pads front and rear. I don't have a lot of stop and go traffic though.

 

[SilverBullet]

I have witnessed many S10 riders dragging their rear brake without realizing it. Stock placement of the pedal, big boots and a lazy foot make it easy to do so. This could be a huge contributor to the rear pads wearing out faster than typical. The other is the linked brakes as you're using rear brake every time you pull the front brake lever. So then if you use the rear pedal after squeezing the front lever you are over applying the rear.

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[Sierra1]

So then if you use the rear pedal after squeezing the front lever you are over applying the rear.

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Whaaaat? I'm not sure that how it works. You are correct as far as the linked braking is concerned. But I only consider it an "over application" when a wheel locks. Sometimes I need all the brake I can get.

 

[SilverBullet]

Whaaaat? I'm not sure that how it works. You are correct as far as the linked braking is concerned. But I only consider it an "over application" when a wheel locks. Sometimes I need all the brake I can get.

Well I didn't quite word that correctly. For normal braking the front lever is all you need as it gives you the proper/typical rear brake application. Very aggressive or emergency braking then yes you might need additional rear brake. With ABS on you will not lock either wheel but you could have ABS activated telling you too much brake or due to road surface. Off pavement this all changes and too many variations to state. But for 90%+ off pavement the only change I make is to TCS. For very rough or technical off pavement hitting the rear pedal first disables linked brakes and in some cases I'll disable the ABS also.

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[mcbrien]

At 47000 miles I'm on my 3rd set of rear pads and second rotor. I almost never use rear brake pedal.
I only use front brake to stop. That's the way these integrated brakes work apparently . I love these brakes ;D

 

[Don in Lodi]

I replaced my first set of pads under 10,000 miles. Next set went a little longer. Then they superseded the part. Those are getting me 15-20k. I only just did the first rear disk at 55k. This is a 2012.

 

[Mellow]

29,000 and I just replaced my rear pads on my 2014... the fronts look like they are still at 90% of original thickness... I guess I downshift a lot..

 

[RCinNC]

32,200 miles and I just installed my third set of rear pads, and I'm a primarily front braker. I think the S10 is just hard on rear pads.

 

[billyp]

At least the rear pads are easy to replace.

 

[EricV]

I think the S10 is just hard on rear pads.

Somewhat, but not to a huge degree. The linked brakes do mean that riders that take shorter trips, or more urban trips where they are applying the brakes more times, will wear the rear pads more quickly. That is because they are being applied every time you brake, even if you only use the front brake lever, due to the linked nature of the brakes. The proportion of rear brake applied is related to load and speed. If you use the rear brake first, yes it will disengage the linking, BUT, it will return if you brake hard enough up front to pass what ever threshold the proportioning valve is at with the rear brake pressure you are applying. IOW, just because you lightly hit the rear brake first, then grab a handful up front, you will still engage linked braking the the hard use of the front will cause increased rear pressure, regardless of what your pressure on the foot pedal is. At least that's how I interpret the FSM's description of the system.

I run heavy load most of the time I ride. Panniers always on, fuel cell always on, gallon water jug always on and usually full. I often have full bags and fuel cell. At 108k I am on my second set of rear pads and, (just looked), am about half way thru them. But, the only time you see my brake light is if I'm coming to a stop. I ride The Pace and don't commute. Most of my riding is going places, a.k.a. touring or travel, not local riding.

By comparison, my '04 FJR needed it's first new pads at something like 90k, and I use both brakes, all the time. But that bike didn't have linked brakes, (I did have the ABS model).

 

[Arkyrider]

I replaced back brake pad @ 22K, fronts have at least 60% left on them.
Front - FA380/HH
Back - FA319/HH

 

[OldRider]

Anybody know the part numbers for front and rear EBC pads?

Front-FA380HH
Rear-FA319/2HH

 

[Sierra1]

29,000 and I just replaced my rear pads on my 2014... the fronts look like they are still at 90% of original thickness... I guess I downshift a lot..

Holy crap! I use engine braking quite a bit too, but that kind of mileage is phenomenal. I would hazard a guess that there is a lot of highway, and very little city, miles on that bike. You probably get good gas mileage too.

 

[RCinNC]

Somewhat, but not to a huge degree. The linked brakes do mean that riders that take shorter trips, or more urban trips where they are applying the brakes more times, will wear the rear pads more quickly. That is because they are being applied every time you brake, even if you only use the front brake lever, due to the linked nature of the brakes. The proportion of rear brake applied is related to load and speed. If you use the rear brake first, yes it will disengage the linking, BUT, it will return if you brake hard enough up front to pass what ever threshold the proportioning valve is at with the rear brake pressure you are applying. IOW, just because you lightly hit the rear brake first, then grab a handful up front, you will still engage linked braking the the hard use of the front will cause increased rear pressure, regardless of what your pressure on the foot pedal is. At least that's how I interpret the FSM's description of the system.

I run heavy load most of the time I ride. Panniers always on, fuel cell always on, gallon water jug always on and usually full. I often have full bags and fuel cell. At 108k I am on my second set of rear pads and, (just looked), am about half way thru them. But, the only time you see my brake light is if I'm coming to a stop. I ride The Pace and don't commute. Most of my riding is going places, a.k.a. touring or travel, not local riding.

By comparison, my '04 FJR needed it's first new pads at something like 90k, and I use both brakes, all the time. But that bike didn't have linked brakes, (I did have the ABS model).

I imagine that's another reason that my rear brakes may wear faster than others'. I ride two up a lot, and I'm often carrying stuff for two people. I'm sure that increases the rear braking load, even when I'm only using the front. However, I can compare the wear rate on the S10 rear pads to that of my old V-Strom and, before that, my Harley Road King, since I rode those two bikes in much the same manner as I do the Yamaha. Now, neither one of those had linked brakes, so they aren't an exact comparison, but I didn't go through as many sets of rear brakes on either one of those as fast as I do on the S10. That leads me to the conclusion that the S10 is harder on rear brake pads than the other two bikes I've done a lot of long distance riding on because of the linked braking system. I've always been more of a front braker, even when I didn't have ABS. Now, when I brake with the front, the rear is engaging every time; something that didn't happen with my other bikes. That's why I said that the S10 is hard on rear pads; I should have been more specific, that it was harder on rear pads than other bikes I've ridden under the same conditions.

 

[BaldKnob]

I imagine that's another reason that my rear brakes may wear faster than others'. I ride two up a lot, and I'm often carrying stuff for two people. I'm sure that increases the rear braking load, even when I'm only using the front. However, I can compare the wear rate on the S10 rear pads to that of my old V-Strom and, before that, my Harley Road King, since I rode those two bikes in much the same manner as I do the Yamaha. Now, neither one of those had linked brakes, so they aren't an exact comparison, but I didn't go through as many sets of rear brakes on either one of those as fast as I do on the S10. That leads me to the conclusion that the S10 is harder on rear brake pads than the other two bikes I've done a lot of long distance riding on because of the linked braking system. I've always been more of a front braker, even when I didn't have ABS. Now, when I brake with the front, the rear is engaging every time; something that didn't happen with my other bikes. That's why I said that the S10 is hard on rear pads; I should have been more specific, that it was harder on rear pads than other bikes I've ridden under the same conditions.

RC, give the EBC HH a try next set. You may be pleasantly surprised. 40K miles with my last 2 sets.

 

[RCinNC]

Hi Baldknob...that's what I replaced the OEM pads with on this most recent brake change, a couple days ago. We'll see how well they last.

 

[Mellow]

Holy crap! I use engine braking quite a bit too, but that kind of mileage is phenomenal. I would hazard a guess that there is a lot of highway, and very little city, miles on that bike. You probably get good gas mileage too.

Yes!.. absolutely!... I don't care to ride the bike to/from work or any short trips to stores and such, it will sit for a month then I'll take a 2k mile road trip.. I get in the 42-44 mpg range typically.

 

[OldRider]

Go the part numbers, thanks will they fit a 15 ES? EBC s web site sucks amazon says they won't fit.

All years and models of S10 use the same brake pads F&R.

 

[blitz11]

Checked on Saturday as i was putting the bike back together after doing front & rear suspension. 14K miles, rear pads shot, front pads looked brand new, and i only use the front brake lever. Shocking that they only lasted that long. New OEM pads on their way. Linked braking bias, i guess. i suppose biasing the rear brake keeps the front front from diving too much.